Re: Snow over ice

[Viperdoc]

I thought about the winch system, but my plane weighs around 5,000lbs.
Pulling on the tail tie down ring might just rip it off. There unfortunately
is no way even four people could push it upslope on our ramp on the ice.

I use a 10HP tug that goes under the nose wheel, and is big enough for a
King Air. I'm going to stop at our local Farm and Fleet
(hardware/construction type store) to see if they even sell chains. I will
also look at a long runner type carpet to place under the tug, which may
help the traction.

It's still all a pain.

[Cary]

I used chains on my PowerTow for moving my 310 into the hangar during
winter. However, if there was ice on the ramp, the chains did not help
at all. The only thing the chain helped with is to get through snow. I
do remember one occasion a few years ago when I also had to call the
FBO to help me get the plane back in the hangar.

Good luck,
Cary

On Dec 19, 5:52 pm, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> I thought about the winch system, but my plane weighs around 5,000lbs.
> Pulling on the tail tie down ring might just rip it off. There unfortunately
> is no way even four people could push it upslope on our ramp on the ice.
>
> I use a 10HP tug that goes under the nose wheel, and is big enough for a
> King Air. I'm going to stop at our local Farm and Fleet
> (hardware/construction type store) to see if they even sell chains. I will
> also look at a long runner type carpet to place under the tug, which may
> help the traction.
>
> It's still all a pain.

[Matt Whiting]

Viperdoc wrote:
> I thought about the winch system, but my plane weighs around 5,000lbs.
> Pulling on the tail tie down ring might just rip it off. There unfortunately
> is no way even four people could push it upslope on our ramp on the ice.

If it won't take being winched up a slight grade (I can't believe your
ramp is all THAT steep), then it certainly can't be relied on to tie
down your airplane in any significant wind.

Matt

[Jay Honeck]

> > I thought about the winch system, but my plane weighs around 5,000lbs.
> > Pulling on the tail tie down ring might just rip it off. There unfortunately
> > is no way even four people could push it upslope on our ramp on the ice.
>
> If it won't take being winched up a slight grade (I can't believe your
> ramp is all THAT steep), then it certainly can't be relied on to tie
> down your airplane in any significant wind.

It would be interesting for an engineer-type (which I am most
definitely NOT) to figure out the air-loads on the vertical and
horizontal stabilizers of Viperdoc's Baron. I wonder how many
thousands of pounds of pressure are being exerted on that empennage
every time he flies?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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[Dylan Smith]

On 2007-12-20, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> definitely NOT) to figure out the air-loads on the vertical and
> horizontal stabilizers of Viperdoc's Baron. I wonder how many
> thousands of pounds of pressure are being exerted on that empennage
> every time he flies?

I'd presume tens of pounds not thousands. The horizontal stab in normal
level flight only provides a small amount of downforce (if it had to
provide thousands of pounds, the aircraft would be horrifically
inefficient and very nose heavy)

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
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