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Aerophotos
December 6th 03, 03:01 AM
Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..

.........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..

look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
on the way of becoming a third world backwater.

Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 03:07 AM
"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
...
>
> Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
>
> ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
>
> look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
>

The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.

December 6th 03, 03:32 AM
Aerophotos > wrote:

>Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
>
>........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
>in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
>
>look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
>on the way of becoming a third world backwater.

Well, I doubt that it's his fault but something certainly did
have an effect on your education (unless you're actually still in
grade three?)
--

-Gord.

John A. Weeks III
December 6th 03, 04:33 AM
In article t>,
Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:

> The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.

Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
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Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 04:38 AM
"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
...
>
> Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
>

No, it has been good for the people that live in the US.

Chad Irby
December 6th 03, 05:59 AM
"John A. Weeks III" > wrote:

> Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
>
> > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
>
> Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.

For example...?

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Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Dave Kearton
December 6th 03, 06:30 AM
"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
> Aerophotos > wrote:
>
> >Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> >
> >........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> >in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
> >
> >look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> >on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
>
> Well, I doubt that it's his fault but something certainly did
> have an effect on your education (unless you're actually still in
> grade three?)
> --
>
> -Gord.



before - i cudn't spel life support teknician - NOW I ARE ONE !









Cheers


Dave Kearton

Sunny
December 6th 03, 06:38 AM
Back in your cage JGG

"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
...
> Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
>
> ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
>
> look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> on the way of becoming a third world backwater.

Sunny
December 6th 03, 07:21 AM
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> "Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Aerophotos > wrote:
> before - i cudn't spel life support teknician - NOW I ARE ONE !

Aircraft Life Support Fitter - JGG
As an Aircraft Life Support Fitter you have responsibilities for the
on-going maintenance of aircraft safety and survival equipment. Fitters are
employed on duties which include removal, installation and inspection of
aircraft rescue/survival equipment; maintenance of a variety of equipment
including protective flying helmets, aircrew oxygen masks, anti-G garments,
life preserver assemblies, parachute assemblies, life rafts, aircraft
escape/rescue equipment, crew restraint harnesses, immersion suits and
survival kits; rescue pyrotechnics; testing of emergency locator beacons;
identification and ordering of aircraft spares; preparation and packaging of
technical equipment for transportation and amendment and maintenance of
technical publications.

If I was air crew, everything I used that needed repair I would throw away
and get a new one :-)

Chad Irby
December 6th 03, 07:57 AM
In article >,
"Sunny" > wrote:

> If I was air crew, everything I used that needed repair I would throw
> away and get a new one :-)

I have seen flight personnel get out of the plane, walk over, pick up a
wheel chock, and permanently "recycle" a bit of replaceable stuff that
never got replaced...

*Whack*

"Oops! Broke it. Need a new one."

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Dave Kearton
December 6th 03, 08:00 AM
"Chad Irby" > wrote in message
m...

> I have seen flight personnel get out of the plane, walk over, pick up a
> wheel chock, and permanently "recycle" a bit of replaceable stuff that
> never got replaced...
>
> *Whack*
>
> "Oops! Broke it. Need a new one."
>
> --


I wonder how many times that's happened to Jolly - since he's been 'inside'




Cheers


Dave Kearton

Jarg
December 6th 03, 08:21 AM
Spoeak for yourself, my life is better than ever.

Jarg

"John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
...
> In article t>,
> Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
>
> > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
>
> Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
>
> -john-
>
> --
> ================================================== ==================
> John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
> Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
> ================================================== ==================

George Shirley
December 6th 03, 02:29 PM
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

> "John A. Weeks III" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
>>
>
>
> No, it has been good for the people that live in the US.
>
>
Now be fair Steven, it has been hell for the liberals, who aren't
getting their way anymore and it's causing ulcers and severe
psychological problems for the more virulent among them. <BSEG>

George

Keith Willshaw
December 6th 03, 02:51 PM
"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
> Aerophotos > wrote:
>
> >Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> >
> >........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> >in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
> >
> >look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> >on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
>
> Well, I doubt that it's his fault but something certainly did
> have an effect on your education (unless you're actually still in
> grade three?)
> --

Aerophotos aka jollygreengiant is actually an example
of the failure of the Australian educational systsem I fear.

Keith

Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 03:24 PM
"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
>
> Now be fair Steven, it has been hell for the liberals, who aren't
> getting their way anymore and it's causing ulcers and severe
> psychological problems for the more virulent among them. <BSEG>
>

Anything that is bad for liberals is good for the US and it's people.

John Mullen
December 6th 03, 04:11 PM
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
>
>>Now be fair Steven, it has been hell for the liberals, who aren't
>>getting their way anymore and it's causing ulcers and severe
>>psychological problems for the more virulent among them. <BSEG>
>>
>
> Anything that is bad for liberals is good for the US and it's people.
>
>
Including the ones who are now dead in Iraq?

John

Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 05:20 PM
"John Mullen" > wrote in message
...
>
> Including the ones who are now dead in Iraq?
>

Interesting that you view the war on terror as being bad for liberals.
Casualties are an unavoidable consequence of war, and casualties in this war
have been historically light.

Michael Petukhov
December 6th 03, 10:28 PM
Aerophotos > wrote in message >...
> Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..

Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
Ironic indeed.

Michael

>
> ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
>
> look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> on the way of becoming a third world backwater.

Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 10:34 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> Ironic indeed.
>

How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon? Proof
that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.

Keith Willshaw
December 6th 03, 11:15 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> > to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> > US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> > as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> > as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> > to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> > Ironic indeed.
> >
>
> How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
Proof
> that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>

Anyway Michael has insisted that moon flights are impossible
so the Chinese Indians and Russians must be really setting up
a new special effects unit in Bollywood.

Keith

John Kunkel
December 6th 03, 11:28 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Aerophotos" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> >
> > ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> > in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
> >
> > look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> > on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
> >
>
> The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.

Such forceful elocution begs a reminder of the old ditty about rectal
orifices and opinions.

Steven P. McNicoll
December 6th 03, 11:47 PM
"John Kunkel" > wrote in message
news:GCtAb.321571$ao4.1083983@attbi_s51...
>
> Such forceful elocution begs a reminder of the old ditty about rectal
> orifices and opinions.
>

It wasn't an opinion.

Brian Colwell
December 7th 03, 12:16 AM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
> Aerophotos > wrote in message
>...
> > Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
>
> Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> Ironic indeed.
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> > in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
> >
> > look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> > on the way of becoming a third world backwater.

Michael, You will have to quit smoking that stuff, I think it is killing
your brain cells.

BMC

Sunny
December 7th 03, 12:24 AM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Aerophotos > wrote:
> >
> > >Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> > >
> > >........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from
there
> > >in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body
...
> > >
> > >look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> > >on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
> >
> > Well, I doubt that it's his fault but something certainly did
> > have an effect on your education (unless you're actually still in
> > grade three?)
> > --
>
> Aerophotos aka jollygreengiant is actually an example
> of the failure of the Australian educational systsem I fear.

It never went to school, (self taught at home with picture books.)

L'acrobat
December 7th 03, 10:09 AM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Aerophotos > wrote:
> >
> > >Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> > >
> > >........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from
there
> > >in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body
...
> > >
> > >look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> > >on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
> >
> > Well, I doubt that it's his fault but something certainly did
> > have an effect on your education (unless you're actually still in
> > grade three?)
> > --
>
> Aerophotos aka jollygreengiant is actually an example
> of the failure of the Australian educational systsem I fear.

It's important to recognise that education is a state responsibility, not a
federal one. I'm betting he was 'educated' in Queensland.

L'acrobat
December 7th 03, 10:12 AM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
> Aerophotos > wrote in message
>...
> > Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
>
> Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> Ironic indeed.
>
> Michael

It must be your worst nightmare loonboy, you've staked out a patch of
nuttersville that looked safe to play in and now the Yanks could be going
back and utterly proving you to be a buffoon.

L'acrobat
December 7th 03, 10:16 AM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> > to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> > US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> > as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> > as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> > to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> > Ironic indeed.
> >
>
> How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
Proof
> that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.

No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.

George Shirley
December 7th 03, 03:17 PM
L'acrobat wrote:

> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>>>Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
>>>to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
>>>US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
>>>as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
>>>as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
>>>to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
>>>Ironic indeed.
>>>
>>
>>How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
>
> Proof
>
>>that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>
>
> No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
> however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
> that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.
>
>
Huh!

George

John Mullen
December 7th 03, 04:22 PM
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

> "John Mullen" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
>
>>Including the ones who are now dead in Iraq?
>>
>
>
> Interesting that you view the war on terror as being bad for liberals.
> Casualties are an unavoidable consequence of war, and casualties in this war
> have been historically light.
>
>
Thanks for giving an (almost) honest answer. You think the 'historically
light' (and of course ongoing) casualties are worth it for the chance to
bash some liberals out of shape. Very interesting.

One quibble; calling it the 'war on terror' is a little misleading.

John

Vaughn
December 7th 03, 04:54 PM
"Chad Irby" > wrote in message
m...
> "John A. Weeks III" > wrote:
>
> > Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> >
> > > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
> >
> > Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
>
> For example...?

The sudden descent from a budget surplus to a record deficit that is
bound to have predictible results?
Loss of personal liberties?
Billions spent and thousands of lives lost fighting the wrong war?
Environmental disaster?

Vaughn

Jarg
December 7th 03, 05:55 PM
Deficit spending is very common during war, and perhaps you should consider
the deficit as a percentage of DNP and put some perspective on this.

I can think of no place that has greater personal freedom than the United
States.

The environment in the United States is very good and getting better.

Wow, that was a really compelling arguement you have there Vaughn.

Jarg

"Vaughn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Chad Irby" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "John A. Weeks III" > wrote:
> >
> > > Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
> >
> > For example...?
>
> The sudden descent from a budget surplus to a record deficit that is
> bound to have predictible results?
> Loss of personal liberties?
> Billions spent and thousands of lives lost fighting the wrong war?
> Environmental disaster?
>
> Vaughn
>
>
>
>

RobbelothE
December 7th 03, 06:04 PM
If the USA is so bad and so screwed up and so anti-human rights, perhaps some
of the enlightened readership might explain why so many people are trying to
get into the USA (legally and otherwise).


Ed
"An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."
Winston Churchill

December 7th 03, 06:09 PM
George Shirley > wrote:

>L'acrobat wrote:
>
>> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
>> ink.net...
>>
>>>"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
>>>
>>>>Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
>>>>to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
>>>>US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
>>>>as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
>>>>as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
>>>>to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
>>>>Ironic indeed.
>>>>
>>>
>>>How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
>>
>> Proof
>>
>>>that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>>
>>
>> No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
>> however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
>> that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.
>>
>>
>Huh!
>
>George

So there you have it!...
--

-Gord.

Chad Irby
December 7th 03, 06:40 PM
In article
>,
"Vaughn" > wrote:

> "Chad Irby" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "John A. Weeks III" > wrote:
> >
> > > Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
> >
> > For example...?
>
> The sudden descent from a budget surplus to a record deficit that is
> bound to have predictible results?

Oddly enough, that's not that predictable. And since we were talking
about "been hell" as opposed to "going to be," you're wrong on this one.

> Loss of personal liberties?

Maybe in the future, but so far, the government has been very bad at
taking much away from us...

> Billions spent and thousands of lives lost fighting the wrong war?

Your opinion, shared by a bunch of folks who have had a very poor track
record in picking "wrong" anythings. Having fun backing those dictators?

> Environmental disaster?

Like, er... well, none have happened, and nothing on the horizon, but
don't let that stop you. Again, hasn't happend, so "been hell" still
doesn't apply.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

George Shirley
December 7th 03, 07:16 PM
wrote:
> George Shirley > wrote:
>
>
>>L'acrobat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
>>>>>to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
>>>>>US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
>>>>>as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
>>>>>as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
>>>>>to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
>>>>>Ironic indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
>>>
>>>Proof
>>>
>>>
>>>>that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>>>
>>>
>>>No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
>>>however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
>>>that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Huh!
>>
>>George
>
>
> So there you have it!...
> --
>
> -Gord.

I thought I understood the concept of faking it but I had had only one
cup of coffee at that time. Going back and rereading it I now truly
understand. I think!

George

December 7th 03, 07:53 PM
George Shirley > wrote:

wrote:
>> George Shirley > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>L'acrobat wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
>>>>>>to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
>>>>>>US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
>>>>>>as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
>>>>>>as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
>>>>>>to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
>>>>>>Ironic indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
>>>>
>>>>Proof
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
>>>>however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
>>>>that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Huh!
>>>
>>>George
>>
>>
>> So there you have it!...
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>
>I thought I understood the concept of faking it but I had had only one
>cup of coffee at that time. Going back and rereading it I now truly
>understand. I think!
>
>George

Well, after much concentrated and fairly deep study it's
abundantly clear to me that I also very clearly and positively
understand it a little.
--

-Gord.

B2431
December 7th 03, 10:32 PM
>From: "L'acrobat"

>> > US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
>> > as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
>> > as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
>> > to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
>> > Ironic indeed.
>> >
>>
>> How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
>Proof
>> that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
>
>No, that would be proof that the cunning Americans faked the fake landings,
>however the faking of fake landings is not proof of actual landings, just
>that the fakes were faked to confuse the issue.
>
I think you are missing the fake point. The Indians, Chinese and Russians are
going to fake their own landings so they can fake evidence of the U.S. fake
landings. This way when ith U.S. fakes its return to the fake landing sites of
the U.S. and Russia/China/India fake sites faking evidence of U.S. fake sites
we can all fake agreement it was all fake. Perhaps the Russian/Chinese/Indian
fake landings will be faked in the same fake sound stage the fake Apollo
landings were faked in.

Having faked all this.....ach, fake it all, this could go on all day if anyone
faking cares.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired.

John Keeney
December 8th 03, 05:11 AM
"Vaughn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Chad Irby" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "John A. Weeks III" > wrote:
> >
> > > Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Bush presidency has been good for the United States.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but it has been hell for the people that live in the US.
> >
> > For example...?
>
> The sudden descent from a budget surplus to a record deficit that is
> bound to have predictible results?
> Loss of personal liberties?
> Billions spent and thousands of lives lost fighting the wrong war?
> Environmental disaster?

If this hell, forget heaven, I kind of like this being damned.

Or perhaps this really isn't "hell", just one of the outer rings of "heck".

Gunnar
December 8th 03, 07:43 AM
"RobbelothE" > skrev i melding
...
> If the USA is so bad and so screwed up and so anti-human rights, perhaps
some
> of the enlightened readership might explain why so many people are trying
to
> get into the USA (legally and otherwise).
>


Now that is damn easy to answer. Just because some 3'rd world country is a
bad (worse) place to live, does not make the US a shining example by
default.




> Ed
> "An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him
last."
> Winston Churchill

Michael Petukhov
December 8th 03, 02:13 PM
"Brian Colwell" > wrote in message news:<tjuAb.581607$6C4.273479@pd7tw1no>...
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Aerophotos > wrote in message
> >...
> > > Bush is to return NASA to the moon, news says..
> >
> > Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> > to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> > US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> > as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> > as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> > to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> > Ironic indeed.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > >
> > > ........how ironic, bush himself should of never of come down from there
> > > in first place... the gravity on earth has effected his mind and body ..
> > >
> > > look what he done to america in 3yrs from been a successful country to
> > > on the way of becoming a third world backwater.
>
> Michael, You will have to quit smoking that stuff,

I have to?

> I think it is killing
> your brain cells.

So you think I have to. why? I mean why if you think I have to?

Michael
>
> BMC

Michael Petukhov
December 8th 03, 02:15 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message >...
> "Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> >
> > "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > >
> > > Hm.. China, India and Russia are all planing
> > > to fly manned mission to moon in the near future.
> > > US certainly hopes to be in time inorder to eliminate
> > > as many of material evidences of its faked "moon landings"
> > > as possible. An expected move though. So it seems we are gonna
> > > to see new moon racing. this time criminals vs. policemen.
> > > Ironic indeed.
> > >
> >
> > How could there be any evidence of a faked moon landing on the moon?
> Proof
> > that they were faked would be an absence of evidence at the landing sites.
> >
>
> Anyway Michael has insisted that moon flights are impossible

It is plain lie Keith.

Michael

> so the Chinese Indians and Russians must be really setting up
> a new special effects unit in Bollywood.
>
> Keith

Kevin Brooks
December 8th 03, 02:38 PM
"Gunnar" > wrote in message
...
> "RobbelothE" > skrev i melding
> ...
> > If the USA is so bad and so screwed up and so anti-human rights, perhaps
> some
> > of the enlightened readership might explain why so many people are
trying
> to
> > get into the USA (legally and otherwise).
> >
>
>
> Now that is damn easy to answer. Just because some 3'rd world country is a
> bad (worse) place to live, does not make the US a shining example by
> default.

Actually, it does make it a shining example, by default. At least in
comparison to all of those nations that those folks are trying to leave
behind--and FYI, a lot of them come from other "first world" nations.

Brooks

>
>
>
>
> > Ed

Keith Willshaw
December 8th 03, 03:14 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
>...

> > Anyway Michael has insisted that moon flights are impossible
>
> It is plain lie Keith.
>

Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)

Specifically on 19 April last year when Dennis Jensen asked

> when you weigh up whether it is more plausible that man went to the
> moon, or whether this massive hoax was perpetrated, the hoax looks very
> weak. What part of the technology for a moon landing do you think was
> impossible, given the technology of the day.

You replied

> Well. That's interesting question. I think there are a few key
> things which were impossible at that time and from impossible
> to very difficult now.

> 1) Protection against radiation in the space ship. I know there are
> some ideas how to do that but still none of human space ships was
> ever build with protection against radiation.

> 2) landing procedure suitable for humans aboard on the planets
> without atmosphere is still untested.

> 3) space suits equipped with protection against radiation for moon walk
> is still a problem as far as I know.

> 4) Docking in space was not solve at that time. Russians did it first
> but in low earth orbit and the procedure was very unreliable. By
> the way huge Saturn V was build only to ovoid docking in space.
> Otherwise they would easily intergrate a ship of enough weight for
> the moon flight without this huge booster.

So you clearly DID say that there were certain things which made it
impossible now ans others which made it very hard.

Keith

Andreas Parsch
December 8th 03, 03:35 PM
Keith Willshaw wrote:

>
> Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)


*LOL*


> [Quotes snipped ... what would we do without Google's archive? :-) ]
>
> So you clearly DID say that there were certain things which made it
> impossible now ans others which made it very hard.


C'mon, Keith - would you use rational argumentation when trying to
convince a brick wall? So why are you trying it with Michael?

SCNR
Andreas

Keith Willshaw
December 8th 03, 03:45 PM
"Andreas Parsch" > wrote in message
...
> Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
> >
> > Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)
>
>
> *LOL*
>
>
> > [Quotes snipped ... what would we do without Google's archive? :-) ]
> >
> > So you clearly DID say that there were certain things which made it
> > impossible now ans others which made it very hard.
>
>
> C'mon, Keith - would you use rational argumentation when trying to
> convince a brick wall? So why are you trying it with Michael?

Because its fun

Keith

Jarg
December 8th 03, 07:14 PM
Name a better example.

Jarg

"Gunnar" > wrote in message
...
> "RobbelothE" > skrev i melding
> ...
> > If the USA is so bad and so screwed up and so anti-human rights, perhaps
> some
> > of the enlightened readership might explain why so many people are
trying
> to
> > get into the USA (legally and otherwise).
> >
>
>
> Now that is damn easy to answer. Just because some 3'rd world country is a
> bad (worse) place to live, does not make the US a shining example by
> default.
>
>
>
>
> > Ed
> > "An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him
> last."
> > Winston Churchill
>
>

Michael Petukhov
December 8th 03, 08:51 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message >...
> "Andreas Parsch" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Keith Willshaw wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)
> >
> >
> > *LOL*
> >
> >
> > > [Quotes snipped ... what would we do without Google's archive? :-) ]
> > >
> > > So you clearly DID say that there were certain things which made it
> > > impossible now ans others which made it very hard.
> >
> >
> > C'mon, Keith - would you use rational argumentation when trying to
> > convince a brick wall? So why are you trying it with Michael?
>
> Because its fun
>


>>> Anyway Michael has insisted that moon flights are impossible
>> It is plain lie Keith.
>Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)

I agree it is fun. But it would be even funnier if you stop distorting
the true. I said "..think there are a few key things which were impossible
at that time and from impossible to very difficult now..." which is
quite opposite to as you say "that moon flights are impossible".

Michael

> Keith

Jarg
December 8th 03, 09:10 PM
That's not the way I read it. If you said that a few key things necessary
for moon flight were impossible then you are saying moon flights were
impossible.

Jarg

"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
>...
> > "Andreas Parsch" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Keith Willshaw wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however
:)
> > >
> > >
> > > *LOL*
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Quotes snipped ... what would we do without Google's archive? :-) ]
> > > >
> > > > So you clearly DID say that there were certain things which made it
> > > > impossible now ans others which made it very hard.
> > >
> > >
> > > C'mon, Keith - would you use rational argumentation when trying to
> > > convince a brick wall? So why are you trying it with Michael?
> >
> > Because its fun
> >
>
>
> >>> Anyway Michael has insisted that moon flights are impossible
> >> It is plain lie Keith.
> >Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)
>
> I agree it is fun. But it would be even funnier if you stop distorting
> the true. I said "..think there are a few key things which were impossible
> at that time and from impossible to very difficult now..." which is
> quite opposite to as you say "that moon flights are impossible".
>
> Michael
>
> > Keith

Keith Willshaw
December 8th 03, 11:57 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...

> >Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)
>
> I agree it is fun. But it would be even funnier if you stop distorting
> the true. I said "..think there are a few key things which were impossible
> at that time and from impossible to very difficult now..." which is
> quite opposite to as you say "that moon flights are impossible".
>
> Michael
>

If you say 'a few keys thing that vary from impossible to difficult'
you clearly mean SOME of them are impossible ergo
you are propounding the belief that moon flights are impossible.

I realise that this puts you in a difficult position when your
own country suggests otherwise bit that's your problem old boy.

Keith

Michael Petukhov
December 9th 03, 06:20 AM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message >...
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
>
> > >Michael you DID say that, I cannot judge if you were lying however :)
> >
> > I agree it is fun. But it would be even funnier if you stop distorting
> > the true. I said "..think there are a few key things which were impossible
> > at that time and from impossible to very difficult now..." which is
> > quite opposite to as you say "that moon flights are impossible".
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> If you say 'a few keys thing that vary from impossible to difficult'
> you clearly mean SOME of them are impossible ergo
> you are propounding the belief that moon flights are impossible.
>
> I realise that this puts you in a difficult position when your
> own country suggests otherwise bit that's your problem old boy.

Absolutely not. The key word here is NOW. So even those key things
thich are impossible now will be possible tomorrow. So it is you
who tried to distort my words and was cought red-handed. Sorry you
totally lost that battle, Keith.

Michael
So yuo lost that
battle
>
> Keith

L'acrobat
December 9th 03, 07:06 AM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
m...

> > I realise that this puts you in a difficult position when your
> > own country suggests otherwise bit that's your problem old boy.
>
> Absolutely not. The key word here is NOW. So even those key things
> thich are impossible now will be possible tomorrow. So it is you
> who tried to distort my words and was cought red-handed. Sorry you
> totally lost that battle, Keith.
>
> Michael

Only in your mind Michael.

Keith Willshaw
December 9th 03, 07:43 AM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
m...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
>...
> > "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> > om...
> >

> >
> > I realise that this puts you in a difficult position when your
> > own country suggests otherwise bit that's your problem old boy.
>
> Absolutely not. The key word here is NOW. So even those key things
> thich are impossible now will be possible tomorrow. So it is you
> who tried to distort my words and was cought red-handed. Sorry you
> totally lost that battle, Keith.
>
>

So what is the radical change in technology that you expect to take
place between now and tomorrow that will transform moon landings
from being impossible to possible ?

Apart from being proposed by Russia that is.

Keith

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