Is the F-35 dead?

[nemo]

It has not yet met all the requirements
And costs are soaring
So, those tiny stupid guys betting just on that technologies are not
even sure to just buy one of them...

[tadaa]

> The list of countries interested in the F-35 is even longer than the
> list of countries France has lost wars to.

I have no love for French, but with all that French bashing around I can't
say I have high regards on Americans either.

[Ugly Bob]

"tadaa" > wrote in message ...
> > The list of countries interested in the F-35 is even longer than the
> > list of countries France has lost wars to.
>
> I have no love for French, but with all that French bashing around I can't
> say I have high regards on Americans either.

We're crushed. Crushed, I tell you! How can we make it
up to you, personally?

-Ugly Bob

[nemo]

Hobo wrote:
> In article >,
> nemo > wrote:
>
>
>>It has not yet met all the requirements
>>And costs are soaring
>
>
>
> It costs less than the Rafale.
>
>
>>So, those tiny stupid guys betting
>
>
> I'm American, so unless you learn how to speak english or spanish
> correctly I can't help you.
>
>
>
>
>>just on that technologies are not
>>even sure to just buy one of them...
>
>
>
> The list of countries interested in the F-35 is even longer than the
> list of countries France has lost wars to.
El que no sabé que hacer con el culo matara moscas...
Eso es lo que mi abuela decia de los que hablan sin saber trabajar...
Como los Gringos...

[nemo]

nemo wrote:

> Hobo wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> nemo > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It has not yet met all the requirements
>>> And costs are soaring
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It costs less than the Rafale.
>>
>>
>>> So, those tiny stupid guys betting
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm American, so unless you learn how to speak english or spanish
>> correctly I can't help you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> just on that technologies are not even sure to just buy one of them...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The list of countries interested in the F-35 is even longer than the
>> list of countries France has lost wars to.
>
> El que no sabé que hacer con el culo matara moscas...
> Eso es lo que mi abuela decia de los que hablan sin saber trabajar...
> Como los Gringos...
>
And to add something, I can tell it to you in more than three others
languages, if you are able to understand any word of them...

[noname]

Hobo wrote:

> When Europeans speak this way there always seems to be some implicit
> threat to stop helping us in the future if we fall out of favor with
> you. Europe in general and Finland specifically have never done anything
> for the US and never will. All your threats, both explicit and implicit
> are empty and we know it. There is no cost to the US in falling out of
> favor with Europe.

Economists are concerned with the size of the current account deficit
because it reflects the amount of money the country must obtain from
foreigners to finance the shortfall between what American consumers are
purchasing in foreign products and the amount being earned from U.S.
export sales.

European investors are now leaving the American market. US economy will
probably crash in a few years.

[tscottme]

Hobo > wrote in message
...
>
> When Europeans speak this way there always seems to be some implicit
> threat to stop helping us in the future if we fall out of favor with
> you. Europe in general and Finland specifically have never done
anything
> for the US and never will. All your threats, both explicit and
implicit
> are empty and we know it. There is no cost to the US in falling out of
> favor with Europe.

"No cost"? Don't be so sure. If the Europeans get angry, I mean really
angry, they might accuse the US of being "imperial" or "isolationist"
depending on whether it's Monday or Tuesday. That my friend is a fate
too terrible to contemplate.

--

Scott
--------
The French, God bless them, are finally joining the war against Islamic
extremism. Their targets, which will now confront the full force of
l'état, are schoolgirls who wear Muslim head scarves in French public
schools.
Wall Street Journal

[Tarver Engineering]

"noname" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hobo wrote:
>
> > When Europeans speak this way there always seems to be some implicit
> > threat to stop helping us in the future if we fall out of favor with
> > you. Europe in general and Finland specifically have never done anything
> > for the US and never will. All your threats, both explicit and implicit
> > are empty and we know it. There is no cost to the US in falling out of
> > favor with Europe.
>
> Economists are concerned with the size of the current account deficit
> because it reflects the amount of money the country must obtain from
> foreigners to finance the shortfall between what American consumers are
> purchasing in foreign products and the amount being earned from U.S.
> export sales.
>
> European investors are now leaving the American market. US economy will
> probably crash in a few years.

America is in a bond rally and mortgage interest rates are at an historic
low; what you write is patently rediculess.

[tadaa]

> > I have no love for French, but with all that French bashing around I
can't
> > say I have high regards on Americans either.

a)
> When Europeans speak this way there always seems to be some implicit
> threat to stop helping us in the future if we fall out of favor with
> you.

b)
> Europe in general and Finland specifically have never done anything
> for the US and never will. All your threats, both explicit and implicit
> are empty and we know it.

c)
> There is no cost to the US in falling out of
> favor with Europe.

a) Well actually there was no threat, just frustration about all the
whining.

b) Great, Finland has done nothing for USA and USA has done nothing for
Finland.
Again that threat thing, you really see threats everywhere? Isn't that
somewhat paranoid?

c) I prefer when people do get along.

[Qman]

Hobo wrote:

> The US has done a great deal for Finland. If the US didn't land at
> Normandy and attack Germany the Red Army would have kept going past
> Berlin and gone on to the ocean. All of Europe, including Finland would
> have been lost.

Well, this is just another example of thinking that US has saved every other
country's ass on this planet... which I think is a bit overreacted.

BTW, Finnish air force is flying US made hornets.


Qman

[tadaa]

"Hobo" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "tadaa" > wrote:
>
> > a) Well actually there was no threat, just frustration about all the
> > whining.
>
> I never said there was an explicit threat, I stated that it was
> implicit. None of you ever stick up us for us so stop complaining when
> we stick up for ourselves.

Who is 'you' in this? Europeans? Finns?
To my knowledge Europeans took part in Gulf War I, operations in former
Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and probably quite a few others.
Many European nations chose not to take part in current operation in Iraq.
But quite a few did take part in it.
So what do you actually mean with those 'none of you' and 'ever'.

> > b) Great, Finland has done nothing for USA and USA has done nothing for
> > Finland.
>
> The US has done a great deal for Finland. If the US didn't land at
> Normandy and attack Germany the Red Army would have kept going past
> Berlin and gone on to the ocean. All of Europe, including Finland would
> have been lost.

Well you were the ones arming and feeding the commies...

> > Again that threat thing, you really see threats everywhere? Isn't that
> > somewhat paranoid?
>
> I stated that implicit threats made by Europeans are empty. Then you
> claim that I am paranoid. I don't think you know what paranoid means.

So what would you call a person who sees threats everywhere?

[tadaa]

"Qman" > wrote in message ...
> Hobo wrote:
>
> > The US has done a great deal for Finland. If the US didn't land at
> > Normandy and attack Germany the Red Army would have kept going past
> > Berlin and gone on to the ocean. All of Europe, including Finland would
> > have been lost.
>
> Well, this is just another example of thinking that US has saved every
other
> country's ass on this planet... which I think is a bit overreacted.
>
> BTW, Finnish air force is flying US made hornets.

Yeah, they are. Does anyone have specs for Finnish F-18's? I'd like to know
if Finns changed anything from the basic C/D outfit.
And btw. does anyone have any idea if Finnish Hawk trainers are going to be
replaced and if so with what and when?

[Cub Driver]

>Well, this is just another example of thinking that US has saved every other
>country's ass on this planet..

Actually, not a bad statement of world history since 1941.

Saddam might not agree, nor Osama nor Kim, but there are spoilsports
in every playground.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

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[Qman]

Cub Driver wrote:

> Actually, not a bad statement of world history since 1941.

Yes, it's OK for a statement but has no real value considering history.

> Saddam might not agree, nor Osama nor Kim, but there are spoilsports
> in every playground.

While my original post was about "Findland and all of europe", let me add that
US is responsible for the mess when it ****s up with his playmates like Osama or
Saddam... but you seem to consider this as yet another world saving act.


Qman