What 2 seat, twin engine GA plane???

[Charles Talleyrand]

The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.

My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.

Read more at http://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf

BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.

[John Godwin]

Charles Talleyrand > wrote in

m:

> The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
>
> My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
> piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.

Thw Wing Derringer comes to mind.

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Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.

> My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
> piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.

> Read more at http://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf

> BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.

I have a feeling that the 4 was a typo and they meant fewer than 6
seats.

Anyway, here's a 2 seat twin:

http://www.8kcab.com/8KCAB-Hist6.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Lancer

One of the aviation mags had an article some years back titled "I flew
a Lancer and lived".


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[Charles Talleyrand]

On Feb 4, 11:25 pm, wrote:
> Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> > The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> > registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> > fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
> > My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
> > piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.
> > Read more athttp://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf
> > BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.
>
> I have a feeling that the 4 was a typo and they meant fewer than 6
> seats.
>
> Anyway, here's a 2 seat twin:
>
> http://www.8kcab.com/8KCAB-Hist6.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Lancer
>
> One of the aviation mags had an article some years back titled "I flew
> a Lancer and lived".


Yes, but I don't think many of these were built.

Were there any popular fewer-than-four seat piston twins? What's the
most popular out of this probably very small group?

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Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:25 pm, wrote:
> > Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> > > The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> > > registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> > > fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
> > > My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
> > > piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.
> > > Read more athttp://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf
> > > BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.
> >
> > I have a feeling that the 4 was a typo and they meant fewer than 6
> > seats.
> >
> > Anyway, here's a 2 seat twin:
> >
> > http://www.8kcab.com/8KCAB-Hist6.html
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Lancer
> >
> > One of the aviation mags had an article some years back titled "I flew
> > a Lancer and lived".


> Yes, but I don't think many of these were built.

> Were there any popular fewer-than-four seat piston twins? What's the
> most popular out of this probably very small group?

I know there have been homebuilts and some others that tried, but AFAIK,
the Lancer was the only one that actually made it into production, and
at that, I believe they only made a couple of dozen.

Ignoring of course miltiary aircraft.


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[Jim Stewart]

wrote:
> Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
>> The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
>> registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
>> fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
>
>> My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
>> piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.
>
>> Read more at http://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf
>
>> BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.
>
> I have a feeling that the 4 was a typo and they meant fewer than 6
> seats.
>
> Anyway, here's a 2 seat twin:
>
> http://www.8kcab.com/8KCAB-Hist6.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Lancer
>
> One of the aviation mags had an article some years back titled "I flew
> a Lancer and lived".

You could always build yourself an Air Cam

http://www.sportaviationunlimited.com/AC%20ovr%20NY%20w.jpg

[Jay Maynard]

On 2008-02-05, Jim Stewart > wrote:
> You could always build yourself an Air Cam
> http://www.sportaviationunlimited.com/AC%20ovr%20NY%20w.jpg

I saw two of those at Sebring. Yow.
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[Robert M. Gary]

On Feb 5, 9:56*am, Jim Stewart > wrote:
> wrote:
> > Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> >> The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> >> registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> >> fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
>
> >> My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? *I've never seen twin
> >> piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.
>
> >> Read more athttp://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf
>
> >> BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.
>
> > I have a feeling that the 4 was a typo and they meant fewer than 6
> > seats.
>
> > Anyway, here's a 2 seat twin:
>
> >http://www.8kcab.com/8KCAB-Hist6.html
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Lancer
>
> > One of the aviation mags had an article some years back titled "I flew
> > a Lancer and lived".
>
> You could always build yourself an Air Cam
>
> http://www.sportaviationunlimited.com/AC%20ovr%20NY%20w.jpg- Hide quoted text -

This is a plane pretty much made specifically for filming National
Geographic type shows. It provides for the mounting of high def
cameras and gives the pilot the safey of two engines when flying at
tree top level. Sadly, I believe the spokesman for the plane died on
location filming some wildlife in Africa.

-Robert

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Charles Talleyrand > said:
>My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? I've never seen twin
>piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.

Cri-Cri?


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"first find out what the problem is, then fix it", and "feed your horse before
yourself". But you don't see people legislating those... -- Zeebee

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 4, 10:40*pm, Charles Talleyrand > wrote:
> The General Aviation Manufacturers Association says that on the US
> registry the average age of a twin engine piston power plane with
> fewer than 4 seats is 32 years, and that this is not increasing.
>
> My question is ... WHERE ARE THESE PLANES? *I've never seen twin
> piston engine plane with fewer than 4 seats.
>
> Read more athttp://www.gama.aero/dloads/2006GAMAStatisticalDatabook.pdf
>
> BTW, the average age of a four seat piston single ... 38 years.

The twin Mustang and the twin Cub comes to mind.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050317-F-1234P-032.jpg

http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/n_o_d/images/airplanes/cub_twin.jpg

Wil

[Vaughn Simon]

"William Hung" > wrote in message
...
The twin Mustang and the twin Cub comes to mind.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050317-F-1234P-032.jpg

http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/n_o_d/images/airplanes/cub_twin.jpg

Wouldn't a twin Cub be a 4-place?

Vaughn

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 9, 2:56*pm, "Vaughn Simon" >
wrote:
> "William Hung" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> The twin Mustang and the twin Cub comes to mind.
>
> http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050317-F...
>
> http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/n_o_d/images/airplanes/cub_twin.jpg
>
> * * *Wouldn't a twin Cub be a 4-place?
>
> Vaughn

Damn Vaughn, you're right. lol

Wil

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 9, 3:14*pm, William Hung > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2:56*pm, "Vaughn Simon" >
> wrote:
>
> > "William Hung" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > The twin Mustang and the twin Cub comes to mind.
>
> >http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050317-F...
>
> >http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/n_o_d/images/airplanes/cub_twin.jpg
>
> > * * *Wouldn't a twin Cub be a 4-place?
>
> > Vaughn
>
> Damn Vaughn, you're right. lol
>
> Wil

Actually, no, you're wrong. In the the twin cub only the right side
cabin can be occupied.

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Piper-TwinCub/twincub.php

"Because of the close proximity of the fuselages, only the righthand
one could be occupied by a pilot and passenger, the lefthand fuselage
serving only the purpose of engine mounting."

I suppose the fusulage are so close together that the door on the left
hand fusulage can't be opened.

Wil

[Vaughn Simon]

"William Hung" > wrote in message
...

>"Because of the close proximity of the fuselages, only the righthand
>one could be occupied by a pilot and passenger, the lefthand fuselage
>serving only the purpose of engine mounting."

OK, that will not go down in history as the only time I have been wrong.

Vaughn

[Blueskies]

"Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
...
>
> "William Hung" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Because of the close proximity of the fuselages, only the righthand
>>one could be occupied by a pilot and passenger, the lefthand fuselage
>>serving only the purpose of engine mounting."
>
> OK, that will not go down in history as the only time I have been wrong.
>
> Vaughn
>

But...didn't it still have 4 places? Just that two were useable, a little like fuel...