Krztalizer
January 7th 04, 10:54 PM
>
>> Very easy, she arrived at the airport , checked in using her ticket
>> and photo id and was given a boarding pass
>
>Unlikely. So far I have not seen a single american without
>at least 10 different credit cards.
As usual, a sweeping generalization that bears no resemblance to facts.
Michael, I have >1< credit card.. Most folks I know have four or five. No one
I know has ten or more - which, considering fees, would be rather stupid.
>>
>> > 2) If she had one how could she paid seat telephone "setup" charge
>> > while being among "all passengers and flight personnel, including the
>> > pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers."?
>>
>> The operator (ground based) was interviewed at the time and
>> reported that she opened the lines when it became clear
>> what was happening
>
>When? As far as I remember that day it became clear too late
>for anyone.
The aircraft she was on had just been hijacked, and the operator would have to
have been unconscious not to know about the events that had already occurred
that morning.
>> > 3) if she paid that charge in advance how could she call from a
>> > different
>> > seat?
>>
>> She dialled 0 which puts you through to an operator
>
>Yeah, while those terrorists were preparing a cup of coffee for her.
Being an ass again, as usual.
>>
>> from
>> http://www.airfone.com/airfone/af_faqs.html
>>
>> <Quote>
>> If I need help using the phone can I get it?
>> Yes, while in-flight you can view the AirfoneŽ Service "Help" menu on the
>> handset screen free of charge. Simply remove the handset and press the "+"
>> button for clear instructions on using AirfoneŽ Service.
>
>Yeah for clear instruction only.
>
>> You can also call
>> 1-800-AIRFONE on the ground or dial "0" while in-flight to speak with a
>> Customer Care Representative.
>> </Quote>
>
>As nonenative English speaker I can say the last one sounds like
>is not for free for me. Any official data how she actually placed
>the calls. Help instuction are not very helpful to know that.
>I whould like to know HOW SHE DID ALL THAT.
No, Michael, you dont want to know HOW SHE DID ALL THAT, what YOU want to do is
find a way to twist what she did into something that won't make sense to you,
thereby proving your "argument" that she couldn't have done it.
>> > 4) if her seat was in "the back of the plane" what was the point
>> > to make "collect call" with valid credit card in hands?
>>
>> See Above
>
>what above? There are no americans without a credit card.
>What was the point to make a collect call? where is the bill?
Fishing expedition, concerning a dead woman not here to defend herself. Be
proud of yourself, jerk.
>> > 5) Was it even technically possible? As far as I remmeber my US
>> > flights these seat phones are not even operational without a valid
>> > credit card.
>> >
>>
>> Incorrect, the same thing happened to Todd Beamer on Flight 93
>> see
>> http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3067652&p1=0
>>
>>
>
>What? Yet another american without a credit card?
Another example of you being wrong.
>> Very easy, she arrived at the airport , checked in using her ticket
>> and photo id and was given a boarding pass
>
>Unlikely. So far I have not seen a single american without
>at least 10 different credit cards.
As usual, a sweeping generalization that bears no resemblance to facts.
Michael, I have >1< credit card.. Most folks I know have four or five. No one
I know has ten or more - which, considering fees, would be rather stupid.
>>
>> > 2) If she had one how could she paid seat telephone "setup" charge
>> > while being among "all passengers and flight personnel, including the
>> > pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers."?
>>
>> The operator (ground based) was interviewed at the time and
>> reported that she opened the lines when it became clear
>> what was happening
>
>When? As far as I remember that day it became clear too late
>for anyone.
The aircraft she was on had just been hijacked, and the operator would have to
have been unconscious not to know about the events that had already occurred
that morning.
>> > 3) if she paid that charge in advance how could she call from a
>> > different
>> > seat?
>>
>> She dialled 0 which puts you through to an operator
>
>Yeah, while those terrorists were preparing a cup of coffee for her.
Being an ass again, as usual.
>>
>> from
>> http://www.airfone.com/airfone/af_faqs.html
>>
>> <Quote>
>> If I need help using the phone can I get it?
>> Yes, while in-flight you can view the AirfoneŽ Service "Help" menu on the
>> handset screen free of charge. Simply remove the handset and press the "+"
>> button for clear instructions on using AirfoneŽ Service.
>
>Yeah for clear instruction only.
>
>> You can also call
>> 1-800-AIRFONE on the ground or dial "0" while in-flight to speak with a
>> Customer Care Representative.
>> </Quote>
>
>As nonenative English speaker I can say the last one sounds like
>is not for free for me. Any official data how she actually placed
>the calls. Help instuction are not very helpful to know that.
>I whould like to know HOW SHE DID ALL THAT.
No, Michael, you dont want to know HOW SHE DID ALL THAT, what YOU want to do is
find a way to twist what she did into something that won't make sense to you,
thereby proving your "argument" that she couldn't have done it.
>> > 4) if her seat was in "the back of the plane" what was the point
>> > to make "collect call" with valid credit card in hands?
>>
>> See Above
>
>what above? There are no americans without a credit card.
>What was the point to make a collect call? where is the bill?
Fishing expedition, concerning a dead woman not here to defend herself. Be
proud of yourself, jerk.
>> > 5) Was it even technically possible? As far as I remmeber my US
>> > flights these seat phones are not even operational without a valid
>> > credit card.
>> >
>>
>> Incorrect, the same thing happened to Todd Beamer on Flight 93
>> see
>> http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3067652&p1=0
>>
>>
>
>What? Yet another american without a credit card?
Another example of you being wrong.