Graceful Airplanes, pt 4 - Diana 2.jpg (1/1)

[Mitchell Holman]

[Wayne Paul]

Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old 1965
homebuilt design which I fly.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/



"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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[Mitchell Holman]

"Wayne Paul" > wrote in
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> Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old 1965
> homebuilt design which I fly.


It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.

[Wayne Paul]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> "Wayne Paul" > wrote in
> :
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>> Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old
>> 1965
>> homebuilt design which I fly.
>
>
> It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.
>

I'll have to agree... that thing doesn't win a beauty contest.

However, most sailplanes are beautiful even when they are tied down for the
night.

Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a glider
isn't an airplane.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder

[Mitchell Holman]

"Wayne Paul" > wrote in
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>
> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Wayne Paul" > wrote in
>> :
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>>> Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old
>>> 1965
>>> homebuilt design which I fly.
>>
>>
>> It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.
>>
>
> I'll have to agree... that thing doesn't win a beauty contest.
>
> However, most sailplanes are beautiful even when they are tied down for
> the night.
>
> Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a
> glider isn't an airplane.


At least until that little door opens up and a
little motor pops out............

[Wayne Paul]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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>> Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a
>> glider isn't an airplane.
>
>
> At least until that little door opens up and a
> little motor pops out............
>

It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider. The
airworthiness certificate states "glider" and you need a "glider" rating
with a "self-launch" endorsement in you log book to legally fly it.

Wayne

[Wayne Paul]

"Agh!" > wrote in message ...
> Wayne Paul wrote:
>
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote...
>
>>>> technically in the USA a glider isn't an airplane.
>
>>> At least until that little door opens up and a
>>> little motor pops out............
>
>> It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider.
>
> It is, of course, an aeroplane.

According to the current Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) part 1, Definitions and Abbreviations, an aircraft is a device that is used, or intended to be used, for flight. Categories of aircraft for certification of airmen include airplane, rotorcraft, lighter-than-air, powered-lift, and glider. Part 1 also defines airplane as an engine-driven, fixed-wing aircraft heavier than air that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of air against its wings.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) defines a glider as a heavier-than-air aircraft that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of the air against its lifting surfaces, and whose free flight does not depend on an engine. The term glider is used to designate the rating that can be placed on a pilot certificate once a person successfully completes required glider knowledge and practical tests. There are three primary launch methods. Ground launch (winch, auto-tow, etc), aero-tow and self-launch.

The pictured aircraft is one of the DG series self-launch gliders. On the airworthiness certificate the type is listed as glider.

You can not legally fly it with a "single-engine" airplane rating. As previously stated, you must have at least a private glider rating with a "self-launch" log book entry.

Respectfully,

Wayne

[Jaroslaw Manek]

>Uzytkownik "Wayne Paul" > napisal w wiadomosci ...

>The pictured aircraft is one of the DG series self-launch gliders. On the airworthiness certificate the type is listed as glider.

It's SZD-56-2 Diana2 ;-)
www.beres.com.pl

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[Jim Hawkins]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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No elevators ?

Jim Hawkins

[Netko]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 0:33:57 +0000, Agh! wrote
(in message >):

>>>> technically in the USA a glider isn't an airplane.
>
>>> At least until that little door opens up and a
>>> little motor pops out............
>
>> It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider.
>
> It is, of course, an aeroplane.

Or, more pedantically, it's an 'Aeroplane (Self-launching Motor
Glider)', at least in the UK.

The (UK's) Air Navigation Order 2005 contains a table entitled
Classification of Aircraft, a copy of which I attach for general
interest (if there is any).

Though not shown on the table, microlights and powered parachutes
are classed as 'Aeroplane (Landplane)' and hang gliders are classed
as 'Glider'.

This picture actually comes the CAA's CAP 393 as the Order's table
(on-line version) appears to have been screwed up a little.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP393.pdf

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[Graham]

"Agh!" > wrote in message
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> Netko wrote:
>
>> Agh! wrote:
>>> Wayne Paul wrote:
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote...
>>>>> Wayne Paul wrote:
>
>>>>>> technically in the USA a glider isn't an airplane.
>
>>>>> At least until that little door opens up and a
>>>>> little motor pops out............
>
>>>> It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider.
>
>>> It is, of course, an aeroplane.
>
>> Or, more pedantically, it's an 'Aeroplane (Self-launching Motor
>> Glider)', at least in the UK.
>
>> The (UK's) Air Navigation Order 2005 contains a table entitled
>> Classification of Aircraft, a copy of which I attach for general
>> interest (if there is any).
>
>> Though not shown on the table, microlights and powered parachutes
>> are classed as 'Aeroplane (Landplane)' and hang gliders are classed
>> as 'Glider'.
>
>> This picture actually comes the CAA's CAP 393 as the Order's table
>> (on-line version) appears to have been screwed up a little.
>
>> http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP393.pdf
>
> Yes, thank you. An 'airplane' is an abomination.

Indeed. An "airplane" is an Americanism and an abomination.

And a "plane/plain" is where the rain in Spain mainly falls...

[Wayne Paul]

"Jim Hawkins" > wrote in message
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> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> No elevators ?
>

Jim,

The Dianna has elevators; however, they are not very large.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder


Wayne