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Mitchell Holman
March 24th 08, 11:56 AM

Alan Erskine[_3_]
March 24th 08, 01:29 PM
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Does anyone remember the F-104 that holds/held the world _sea-level_ speed
record? Was it flown by Fosset? I'm going back to the '80's-90's I think,
but it was red all over and there was a control problem and the pilot had to
eject. I'd love some details of that if anyone knows.

Alan Erskine[_3_]
March 24th 08, 03:14 PM
"Clark" > wrote in message
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> > "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> > Does anyone remember the F-104 that holds/held the world _sea-level_
> > speed record? Was it flown by Fosset? I'm going back to the '80's-90's
> > I think, but it was red all over and there was a control problem and the
> > pilot had to eject. I'd love some details of that if anyone knows.
> >
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> Darryl Greenamyer, aircraft called the Red Baron, late 70's. Lost when
> landing gear failed. All of it is IIRC.

Thanks, Clark. Now you can see why Mitchell's post reminded me so much of
the record holder: http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/104rb.jpg

Ron
March 24th 08, 03:39 PM
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>> > "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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>> > Does anyone remember the F-104 that holds/held the world _sea-level_
>> > speed record? Was it flown by Fosset? I'm going back to the
>> > '80's-90's
>> > I think, but it was red all over and there was a control problem and
>> > the
>> > pilot had to eject. I'd love some details of that if anyone knows.
>> >
>> >
>> Darryl Greenamyer, aircraft called the Red Baron, late 70's. Lost when
>> landing gear failed. All of it is IIRC.
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> Thanks, Clark. Now you can see why Mitchell's post reminded me so much of
> the record holder: http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/104rb.jpg
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Isn't the Red Baron the F-104 that was built entirely from spare parts?

Ron
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John Szalay
March 24th 08, 06:59 PM
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>>> > "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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>>> > Does anyone remember the F-104 that holds/held the world
>>> > _sea-level_ speed record? Was it flown by Fosset? I'm going back
>>> > to the '80's-90's
>>> > I think, but it was red all over and there was a control problem
>>> > and the
>>> > pilot had to eject. I'd love some details of that if anyone
>>> > knows.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Darryl Greenamyer, aircraft called the Red Baron, late 70's. Lost
>>> when landing gear failed. All of it is IIRC.
>>
>> Thanks, Clark. Now you can see why Mitchell's post reminded me so
>> much of the record holder: http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/104rb.jpg
>>
> Isn't the Red Baron the F-104 that was built entirely from spare
> parts?
>
> Ron

That was my understanding, and the CURRENTLY flying CF-104 appears to be
carrying the same N number N104RB

Heres the accident report on the 78 accident..

NTSB Identification: LAX78FUQ16
14 CFR Part 91 General Aviation
Event occurred Sunday, February 26, 1978 in MOJAVE, CA
Aircraft: LOCKHEED F-104, registration: N104RB

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---------------------------------------------------- FILE DATE
LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT
PILOT DATA
F S M/N
PURPOSE-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------3-0210
78/2/26 MOJAVE,CA LOCKHEED F-104 CR- 0 0 1
NONCOMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL, AGE 41, 4520 TIME - 1615
N104RB PX- 0 0 0 PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP TOTAL HOURS,
339 IN TYPE, DAMAGE-DESTROYED
OT- 0 0 0 INSTRUMENT RATED.
DEPARTURE POINT INTENDED DESTINATION MOJAVE,CA
LOCAL TYPE OF ACCIDENT
PHASE OF OPERATION AIRFRAME FAILURE: IN FLIGHT
LANDING: TRAFFIC PATTERN-CIRCLING MISCELLANEOUS
IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE PROBABLE CAUSE(S) AIRFRAME -
LANDING GEAR: GEAR LOCKING MECHANISM MISCELLANEOUS
ACTS,CONDITIONS - MATERIAL FAILURE REMARKS- LFT GEAR FAILED TO
LOCK DWN FOR UNKNOWN REASON. PILOT ELECTED TO EJECT.ACFT DESTROYED.ENG
J-79.

Alan Erskine[_3_]
March 25th 08, 12:37 AM
"Ron" > wrote in message
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> Isn't the Red Baron the F-104 that was built entirely from spare parts?
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> Ron

Yep. From memory, even the instrument panel was red!

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