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Yama
January 17th 04, 11:49 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
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> But Mikhailichenko dismissed any suggestion of a return to the Cold
> War contest which Soviet Union led until the United States put men on
> the moon in 1969. He said the Russian space programme, short of cash
> since the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991, would continue its own
> research and this would form the basis for future missions. "Such
> plans in Russia are still being formulated. Realistic plans will come
> to light by the end of this year or the beginning of next year," he
> said without giving details.

Well lets hope so, because at the moment Russia does not HAVE scientific
space program outside of ISS, in which they provide like 2% of the funding.
Unfortunate, really.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
January 18th 04, 01:22 AM
"Yama" > wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> > But Mikhailichenko dismissed any suggestion of a return to the Cold
> > War contest which Soviet Union led until the United States put men on
> > the moon in 1969. He said the Russian space programme, short of cash
> > since the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991, would continue its own
> > research and this would form the basis for future missions. "Such
> > plans in Russia are still being formulated. Realistic plans will come
> > to light by the end of this year or the beginning of next year," he
> > said without giving details.
>
> Well lets hope so, because at the moment Russia does not HAVE scientific
> space program outside of ISS, in which they provide like 2% of the
funding.
> Unfortunate, really.
>
>

But the ISS has no real mission. They do an expirament once in a while to
justify having it. If it had been designed as an orbiting warehouse, it
would have a purpose...stockpiling supplies in advance of a mission to Mars.

If you're going to go to Mars, you have to have enough supplies to get
there, land, wander around, take off and fly back home. Sending supplies
directly to Mars is a possibility but if your rendezvous fails, you're
finished. So stock piling the supplies in Earth orbit makes the most sense.

Captain!
January 18th 04, 03:01 AM
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" > wrote in message
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>
> "Yama" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > But Mikhailichenko dismissed any suggestion of a return to the Cold
> > > War contest which Soviet Union led until the United States put men on
> > > the moon in 1969. He said the Russian space programme, short of cash
> > > since the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991, would continue its own
> > > research and this would form the basis for future missions. "Such
> > > plans in Russia are still being formulated. Realistic plans will come
> > > to light by the end of this year or the beginning of next year," he
> > > said without giving details.
> >
> > Well lets hope so, because at the moment Russia does not HAVE scientific
> > space program outside of ISS, in which they provide like 2% of the
> funding.
> > Unfortunate, really.
> >
> >
>
> But the ISS has no real mission. They do an expirament once in a while to
> justify having it. If it had been designed as an orbiting warehouse, it
> would have a purpose...stockpiling supplies in advance of a mission to
Mars.
>
> If you're going to go to Mars, you have to have enough supplies to get
> there, land, wander around, take off and fly back home. Sending supplies
> directly to Mars is a possibility but if your rendezvous fails, you're
> finished. So stock piling the supplies in Earth orbit makes the most
sense.
>
>

that's not a bad idea, but i am sure that it could be done at a lower cost.
the iss is a status symbol. it always has been. and it's a damn good one
too.

Fred J. McCall
January 18th 04, 04:28 AM
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" > wrote:

:But the ISS has no real mission. They do an expirament once in a while to
:justify having it. If it had been designed as an orbiting warehouse, it
:would have a purpose...stockpiling supplies in advance of a mission to Mars.
:
:If you're going to go to Mars, you have to have enough supplies to get
:there, land, wander around, take off and fly back home. Sending supplies
:directly to Mars is a possibility but if your rendezvous fails, you're
:finished. So stock piling the supplies in Earth orbit makes the most sense.

True, but you don't need a space station for that. It's space. Space
is big. Really, really big. And stuff you hang there will, in the
short term, pretty much stay where you leave it whether there's a
space station there or not.

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