Re: US production of Russian ejector seats (was: Re: Russia's 'Blackjacks' fly again)

[anonymus]

John Mullen wrote:
> Anyone know what happened with this project?
>
> http://www.aeronautics.ru/k36d.htm

was cancelled cause western ejcector seats are much better ( as usual ) than
those russian copies

[John Mullen]

anonymus wrote:
> John Mullen wrote:
>
>>Anyone know what happened with this project?
>>
>>http://www.aeronautics.ru/k36d.htm
>
>
> was cancelled cause western ejcector seats are much better ( as usual ) than
> those russian copies
>
>
I didn't know that. As you are such an expert on ejector seats, which
Western type would you say the K-36D-3.5A was a copy of?

John

[Peter Stickney]

In article >,
John Mullen > writes:
> anonymus wrote:
>> John Mullen wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone know what happened with this project?
>>>
>>>http://www.aeronautics.ru/k36d.htm
>>
>>
>> was cancelled cause western ejcector seats are much better ( as usual ) than
>> those russian copies
>>
>>
> I didn't know that. As you are such an expert on ejector seats, which
> Western type would you say the K-36D-3.5A was a copy of?

The evaluation report is actually available on stinet:
http://stinet.dtic.mil/

Tons of stuff there use the advanced search options, but prepare to be
distracted

The main upshot of the preport was that the Russian seat did provide
some performance improvements, but that those improvements would only
be useful in about 2% of all ejections. There were significant costs
in weight and volume (The seat's bigger), and it was determined to be
pretty much a wash in terms of overall safety.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

[John Mullen]

Peter Stickney wrote:

> In article >,
> John Mullen > writes:
>
>>anonymus wrote:
>>
>>>John Mullen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anyone know what happened with this project?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.aeronautics.ru/k36d.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>was cancelled cause western ejcector seats are much better ( as usual ) than
>>>those russian copies
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I didn't know that. As you are such an expert on ejector seats, which
>>Western type would you say the K-36D-3.5A was a copy of?
>
>
> The evaluation report is actually available on stinet:
> http://stinet.dtic.mil/
>
> Tons of stuff there use the advanced search options, but prepare to be
> distracted
>
> The main upshot of the preport was that the Russian seat did provide
> some performance improvements, but that those improvements would only
> be useful in about 2% of all ejections. There were significant costs
> in weight and volume (The seat's bigger), and it was determined to be
> pretty much a wash in terms of overall safety.
>

Thanks for that. I couldn't find the info on the site but am happy to
take your word for it.

John

[Guy Alcala]

Peter Stickney wrote:

> In article >,
> John Mullen > writes:
> > anonymus wrote:
> >> John Mullen wrote:

<snip>

> > I didn't know that. As you are such an expert on ejector seats, which
> > Western type would you say the K-36D-3.5A was a copy of?
>
> The evaluation report is actually available on stinet:
> http://stinet.dtic.mil/
>
> Tons of stuff there use the advanced search options, but prepare to be
> distracted

Oh, man, you're not kidding! Thanks for the URL.

Guy (who's about to dive into "V/STOL Shipboard Recovery: It's Not Just Another
Carrier Landing").