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Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:47 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Most rationing, about 90% plus was gone by 1951.
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So, then, your previous statement, that all rationing was abandoned by 1951,
was wrong. Is that what you're trying to say?
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:47 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
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> Canada was an independent nation by then which declared
> war independently on Germany. I see your continued
> use of the word 'colony' to describe them as a studied
> insult of people who were loyal friends and allies.
>
I don't think that's why he calls Canada a colony. I think he truly
believes Canada was a British colony during WWII. After all, if Spiv is
anything, he is stupid.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:47 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Not so. Independence in 1948, 1959
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Well, which is it? 1948 or 1959?
Never mind, I'll give you the answer. Canada achieved complete independence
from Britain in 1931, after the passage of The Statute of Westminster, 1931.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:47 PM
"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
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> Comet was the first one to fly commercially, though. Tu-104
> probably the second (don't think Canadair C-102 ever carried
> fare-paying passengers).
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By the way, the C-102 was a creation of Avro, not Canadair.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:47 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> That is true, yet they didn't need to go 100% self sufficiency in food, as
> they could import it when the U boast were suppressed.
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Good thing. As 100% self-sufficiency in food was impossible.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:50 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Yes. Independence in 1948, for most of Canada and Newfoundland
> in 1959.
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No. Canada achieved complete independence from Britain in 1931.
Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949.
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> 100% correct.
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Oh really? Well, if you're 100% right, it means the collective memories of
millions of people and much recorded history are wrong.
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> Not in the early part.
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Not in any part.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:52 PM
"Brett" > wrote in message
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> Did you stop attending school 8 or 9 years before you were 15?
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Spiv is no more than 15 now.
ANDREW ROBERT BREEN
February 9th 04, 04:52 PM
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Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
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>"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
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>> Comet was the first one to fly commercially, though. Tu-104
>> probably the second (don't think Canadair C-102 ever carried
>> fare-paying passengers).
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>By the way, the C-102 was a creation of Avro, not Canadair.
Oops. my bad. Avro Canada C-102 Jetliner. And a much better attempt
at a jet airliner than the parent company's effort. Avro Ashton,
anyone :(
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Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:53 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
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> Britain was pretty much self sufficient with regard to
> infantry weapons and artillery but relied heavily on
> US supplied tanks , trucks and armoured cars.
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> The air force relied totally on US production for its
> transport aircraft , a large percentage of its long range
> maritime patrol aircraft and the RN was reliant on US
> produced fighters on its carrier force
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Yes. I know. The RAF also acquired a fair number of US fighters.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:57 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Which does not mean Britain is small.
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It depends on one's point of view.
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> It is not.
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It is.
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> Still not small though.
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Still small. Why are you bothered so much by the small size of the UK?
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 04:59 PM
"David Thornley" > wrote in message
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> With the striking exceptions of carrier and transport aircraft, it seems
> that, at any given time, the bulk of British-operated aircraft were of
> British design and manufacture.
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Which means the UK acquired many aircraft from outside sources. You'll find
the UK also acquired a fair number of land-based fighters.
Keith Willshaw
February 9th 04, 05:02 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
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> > Canada was an independent nation by then which declared
> > war independently on Germany. I see your continued
> > use of the word 'colony' to describe them as a studied
> > insult of people who were loyal friends and allies.
> >
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> I don't think that's why he calls Canada a colony. I think he truly
> believes Canada was a British colony during WWII. After all, if Spiv is
> anything, he is stupid.
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>
True very true
Keith
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 05:03 PM
"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
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> The Nene Viking was certainly the first mating of an airliner
> fuselage to jet power and the first jet to be capable of
> employment as an airliner (engine and type certification aside).
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The Nene was not mated to the Viking airframe to produce an jet-powered
Viking airliner, it was purely for the development of the Nene engine.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 05:06 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> It hasn't sunk in.
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Obviously, but we'll keep trying to help you understand.
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> Britain always imported cheaper food, and food
> that can't be grown in the UK, from the empire and elsewhere.
> After WW2 the need to be self sufficient was not there.
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The UK did not have the capability to be self-sufficient in food during
WWII. Britain would have fallen without food imports.
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> It was.
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Not during the war.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 05:07 PM
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> Try reading about it.
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That's good advice. You should heed it yourself.
ANDREW ROBERT BREEN
February 9th 04, 05:08 PM
In article . net>,
Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
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>"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
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>> The Nene Viking was certainly the first mating of an airliner
>> fuselage to jet power and the first jet to be capable of
>> employment as an airliner (engine and type certification aside).
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>The Nene was not mated to the Viking airframe to produce an jet-powered
>Viking airliner, it was purely for the development of the Nene engine.
Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was saying exactly that - the Nene
Viking would have made a very bad, very uneconomic airliner had anyone
attempted to use it as such, so there was never any intention of doing
so. *However*, if anyone had been daft enough and had got type approval
for it, it could have carried passengers - even fare-payings ones -
albeit at ruinous expense. And it was the first jet to get even that
far. Everything starts somewhere..
--
Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)
Spiv
February 9th 04, 06:35 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Spiv" > wrote in message
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> > Try reading about it.
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> That's good advice.
Then take the advice,
Spiv
February 9th 04, 06:36 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Spiv" > wrote in message
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> > It hasn't sunk in.
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> Obviously, but we'll keep trying to help you understand.
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> > Britain always imported cheaper food, and food
> > that can't be grown in the UK, from the empire and elsewhere.
> > After WW2 the need to be self sufficient was not there.
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> The UK did not have the capability to be self-sufficient in food during
> WWII. Britain would have fallen without food imports.
Please read thread - 4 times.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 9th 04, 07:11 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Please read thread - 4 times.
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I have. What you've written here is not correct.
D. Patterson
February 9th 04, 07:53 PM
"Martin Rapier" > wrote in message
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> "Brandon J. Van Every" > wrote in
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> > >> It is now; the last time I heard somebody talking about "the whole
> > >> world's population could stand on X" I think it was closer to three.
> > >> Feel free to regard me as having functionally been living in a cave
> > >> for the past three decades or so.
> > >
> > > Well, maybe they can stand on one foot, then.
> >
> > On each other's shoulders, it's only double, LOL!
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> If they all jump down at the same time will it create a tidal wave which
> will engulf the earth?
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> Cheers
> Martin
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No, the load bearing capabiities of the island were exceeded long ago, and
the island sank beneath the waves and drowned everyone in a Great Flood
which wiped out humanity, except for one group who clung to some flotsam and
made it to the mainland.
Spiv
February 9th 04, 11:03 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Spiv" > wrote in message
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> > That is true, yet they didn't need to go 100% self sufficiency in food,
as
> > they could import it when the U boast were suppressed.
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> Good thing. As 100% self-sufficiency in food was impossible.
Cor!
Pete
February 9th 04, 11:42 PM
"Spiv" > wrote
> Still not small though.
Define 'small'
Pete
February 10th 04, 03:46 AM
(David Thornley) wrote:
>In article >,
>Brett > wrote:
>>"David Thornley" > wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> John Mullen > wrote:
>>> >David Thornley wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Last I heard something like that, the world population was more like
>>> >> three billion,
>>> >
>>> >More like six IIRC
>>> >
>>> It is now; the last time I heard somebody talking about "the whole world's
>>> population could stand on X" I think it was closer to three. Feel free
>>> to regard me as having functionally been living in a cave for the past
>>> three decades or so.
>>
>>Three decades ago - the world population on Feburay 6, 1974 was about 4.15
>>Billion (and they still had less than a square foot of the Isle of Wight)
>>:-)
>>
>Damn, how old am I getting?
Well, you're likely the oldest right now that you've ever been.
Probably.
--
-Gord.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 10th 04, 03:53 AM
"Pete" > wrote in message
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> Define 'small'
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The UK.
Spiv
February 10th 04, 02:16 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Pete" > wrote in message
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> > Define 'small'
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> The UK.
Mr McNicoll's brain.
Steven P. McNicoll
February 10th 04, 02:46 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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> Mr McNicoll's brain.
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The great mathematician and physicist Albert Einstein died in 1955.
He had requested that his body be cremated but that his brain be saved and
studied for research. Dr. Thomas S. Harvey, a pathologist at Princeton
Hospital, removed Einstein's brain. Einstein's brain weighed only 1,230
grams, which is less than the average adult male brain (about 1,400 grams).
If a small brain was good enough for Einstein, it's good enough for me.
Why does living in a small country bother you so?
Pete
February 10th 04, 05:10 PM
"Spiv" > wrote in message
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Still no definition of what you consider 'small'.
Pete
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