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Les Matheson
January 30th 04, 03:23 AM
Accident reports are public information and are releasable. They are the
determining factor in any legal claim against the government. Mishap
reports on the other hand are not releasable.

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Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)
And former Wing Safety Officer


"BUFDRVR" > wrote in message
...
> >While I understand why it's very important not to release information
> >given to the accident investigation board in confidence, is there any
> >reason for the ATC who took the picture not to release it himself
>
> Actually, the ATC who took it, *did not* release it, instead he did the
right
> thing and gave it to safety officials for the investigation. As private
> property he could have done anything he wanted with the picture. I believe
it
> leaked out along with the accident investigation report.
>
>
> BUFDRVR
>
> "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips
> everyone on Bear Creek"

damron
January 30th 04, 07:14 PM
"S. Sampson" > wrote in message
news:EN1Sb.9151$Q_4.5092@okepread03...
> Anyone know who took the picture, and why it was never copyright?

You do not need to register it to retain copyrights. That said, I will
remove the photo if the owner asserts his copyrights.

nafod40
January 30th 04, 07:16 PM
Clark wrote:
>
> Can the Air Force, as a US government entity, hold copywrite? I'm under the
> impressiono that nothing the Feds own is copywritable. I may have the
> language wrong but if the government owns intellectual property then it's in
> the public domain (unless classified...).

Yes, they can hold copyrights. They can hold patents and license them too.

damron
January 30th 04, 08:10 PM
It's pretty clear that the video was made with AF hardware. I doubt they
contract for that. If they did, it is possible that the contractor has the
rights, but I doubt it.

"Clark" <stillnospam@me> wrote in message
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> nafod40 > wrote in :
>
> > Clark wrote:
> >>
> >> Can the Air Force, as a US government entity, hold copywrite? I'm under
> >> the impressiono that nothing the Feds own is copywritable. I may have
> >> the language wrong but if the government owns intellectual property
> >> then it's in the public domain (unless classified...).
> >
> > Yes, they can hold copyrights. They can hold patents and license them
> > too.
> >
> >
> >
> from www.copywrite.gov:
>
> § 105. Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works35
>
> Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the
> United States Government, but the United States Government is not
precluded
> from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment,
> bequest, or otherwise.
>
> e.g. the US government can't apply for a copywrite but may receive one. In
> the case of the ejection video, hmmm?

Mike Bandor
January 31st 04, 12:29 AM
FWIW, the ejection picture (shot from the control tower) was on the Air
Force Link website today (as part of the week in pictures):

http://www.af.mil


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