Re : Military Blames Lap dances

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>
>http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
>
>U.S. military blames lap dances
>for declining military discipline
>
>EAST-ASIA-INTEL.COM
>Tuesday, February 3, 2004
>
>SEOUL -
>
>The U.S. military has asked South Korea
>to ban lap dancing and other lewd acts
>at local nightclubs near its bases,
>saying they negatively impact military
>discipline.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold it right there, General.

Order your men not to enter those night clubs.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
>The officials said the military was taking
>similar steps at other bases in the United
>States and overseas against lap dancing.
>
>The U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division,
>which has 15,000 troops near the border
>with North Korea,
>
>recently sent letters to the South Korean
>Special Tourist Association and local mayors
>urging a crack down on lap dancing clubs
>near barracks.
>
>Describing
>"client-focused exotic dancing"
>as the principal cause of
>worsening military discipline,
>
>the military letter called for local club
>owners to "prohibit any physical contact
>between dancers and (U.S.) customers."
>
>South Korean lap dancing clubs are totally
>dependent on American customers because
>they are not allowed to take local clients.
>
>U.S. officials declined to specify what
>they meant by worsening military discipline.
>
>"We are following trends in the United States,"
>
>Lt. Col. Chris Bailey,
>the 2nd Infantry Division's
>assistant chief of staff,
>told the Stars & Stripes newspaper.
>
>The U.S. Forces Korea has consulted
>mainland laws banning lap dancing, he said.
>
>The more than 90 American installations
>throughout South Korea have long been a
>source of friction between residents
>living near the U.S. facilities,
>
>who complain of pollution, noise
>and traffic from the U.S. bases
>and occasional crimes by American troops.
>
>Many crimes committed by U.S. servicemen
>involve nightclubs near their barracks.
>
>Amid an increasing number of
>American troops accused of crimes,
>their legal protection has become
>a sensitive issues for the two
>governments.
>
>"The USFK will root out any practices
>that go contrary to a positive environment
>for U.S. soldiers, Korean residents and
>people of all nationalities,"
>
>said Chae Yang-To,
>
>a spokesman for the 2nd Infantry Division.
>
>The United States maintains 37,000 troops
>in South Korea to help defend it from a
>potential conflict with North Korea under
>a bilateral defense treaty signed after
>the 1950-1953 Korean War.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Charlie Wolf]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:12:15 +0000,
wrote:

>>
>>http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
>>
>>U.S. military blames lap dances
>>for declining military discipline
>>
>>EAST-ASIA-INTEL.COM
>>Tuesday, February 3, 2004
>>
>>SEOUL -
>>
>>The U.S. military has asked South Korea
>>to ban lap dancing and other lewd acts
>>at local nightclubs near its bases,
>>saying they negatively impact military
>>discipline.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
>Hold it right there, General.
>
>Order your men not to enter those night clubs.
Yea. Whatever happened to "The following local establishments are
off-limits. If you're caught in one of them, it'll come out of your
paycheck."
Regards,

[Rick Folkers]

Ya, outlaw the American soldier's interest
in women. Sure, that will work.

FM's

[Ragnar]

> wrote in message
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> >
> >http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
> >
> >U.S. military blames lap dances
> >for declining military discipline

Whats wrong with a lap dance?

[Horvath]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 06:19:56 +0900, "Ragnar" > wrote
this crap:

>
> wrote in message
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>> >
>> >http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
>> >
>> >U.S. military blames lap dances
>> >for declining military discipline
>
>Whats wrong with a lap dance?

I don't know. My girlfriend does some pretty good ones. That's how
she makes all her money.





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[Les Matheson]

"The floggings will continue until morale improves"

Les

[Engineer]

"K-Ration" > wrote in message ...
> >
> Damnit Charlie. Then ALL the bars in Korea would be off limits. No
> more "steam and cream". Can you imagine Vietnam being off limits??
> Everyone beating their meat to the jungle beat?? Pussy is a commodity
> of war and peace. We need to be remined what we are fighting for.
>
> Now when I was in Kimchiland, the only places put off limits were those
> with high "vidokey" rates and even those came off the list once the
> local medics got a piece and came out clean. At Camp Casey, they had a
> Top Ten sandwich board at the main gate. Boy would mamasan be ****ed
> when she found out her girls were dirty. Then she would lower the price
> and you took your chances.

I was going to tell them that it had already been tried and it never worked.
Some people never learn.

Engineer
>

[Tarver Engineering]

"Les Matheson" > wrote in message
news:O2iUb.2338$Yj.187@lakeread02...
> "The floggings will continue until morale improves"

Such action would only be necessary if lap dances are prohibited.

I know the only Lone Star I ever enjoyed was one I should not have been
drinking.

[Krztalizer]

<key ship's IMC>

"...There will be a meeting of the Morale Suppression Team at 2200 hours in the
ship's library. That is all."

[Ted Gittinger]

"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
> news:O2iUb.2338$Yj.187@lakeread02...
> > "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
>
> Such action would only be necessary if lap dances are prohibited.
>
> I know the only Lone Star I ever enjoyed was one I should not have been
> drinking.

And thereby hangs a tale.

I'll start it off:

You were:

A. A airman basic at Lackland AFB;

B. A medic in training at BAMC.

C. A student at Central Catholic High.

You had this experience at:

A. Hipp's Bubble Room

B. The Pan American Cafe

C. Mi Tierra

D. Having a hit on a joint at Tony's Mirror Shine on Houston Street.

By gad, sir, please continue and do not leave us hanging in suspenders.

ted
>
>

[Richard Rongstad]

Ted Gittinger wrote:
>
> "Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
> > news:O2iUb.2338$Yj.187@lakeread02...
> > > "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
> >
> > Such action would only be necessary if lap dances are prohibited.

> C. Mi Tierra

Ted,

That's a nice little restaurant.

The meal was good. I waited for the lap dancers, but the mariachi
band just wouldn't go away.

> ted
> >
> >

[John Hairell]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:42:35 -0500, "Engineer" >
wrote:

>"K-Ration" > wrote in message ...
>> >
>> Damnit Charlie. Then ALL the bars in Korea would be off limits. No
>> more "steam and cream". Can you imagine Vietnam being off limits??
>> Everyone beating their meat to the jungle beat?? Pussy is a commodity
>> of war and peace. We need to be remined what we are fighting for.
>>
>> Now when I was in Kimchiland, the only places put off limits were those
>> with high "vidokey" rates and even those came off the list once the
>> local medics got a piece and came out clean. At Camp Casey, they had a
>> Top Ten sandwich board at the main gate. Boy would mamasan be ****ed
>> when she found out her girls were dirty. Then she would lower the price
>> and you took your chances.
>
>I was going to tell them that it had already been tried and it never worked.
>Some people never learn.
>


What a joke - that lap-dancing would undermine the morale of US troops
in Souh Korea. You want to sap the morale of the troops block them
off from going to "the ville" and see what happens.

The entire local economies around US military installations depend on
servicemen. The US military presence in South Korea makes for a
symbiotic economic relationship with the Koreans. We need them and
they need us. The US/UN command has always turned a blind eye towards
the "other economy", and tacitly abetted it. When I was stationed in
ROK there were Army units that had over 90% VD rates.

There have been periodic attempts to clean things up, often due to
pressure from stateside morality and parents' groups who are under the
impression that their poor little babies are being corrupted by the
Korean hookers. I remember when there was a big push to clean up
the distribution of girlie mags in the AFEES but simultaneously any
US serviceman could step outside the gates (sometimes inside the gates
too) and get real women.

The US Army moving out of Yongsan in Seoul, the locals' sensitivities,
and the generaly lower visibility of US troops in South Korea are
probably driving a lot of this, or perhaps the 2nd ID just recently
got a new commander who's got a bit too much starch in his underpants.

John Hairell )
ROK 1979-81

[Tarver Engineering]

"Ted Gittinger" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
> > news:O2iUb.2338$Yj.187@lakeread02...
> > > "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
> >
> > Such action would only be necessary if lap dances are prohibited.
> >
> > I know the only Lone Star I ever enjoyed was one I should not have been
> > drinking.
>
> And thereby hangs a tale.
>
> I'll start it off:
>
> You were:
>
> A. A airman basic at Lackland AFB;

> B. A medic in training at BAMC.
>
> C. A student at Central Catholic High.


I'd have to go with A and C, I was 17 at Lackland and going back to finnish
my senior year of HS. The USAF was a great adventure.

> You had this experience at:
>
> A. Hipp's Bubble Room
>
> B. The Pan American Cafe
>
> C. Mi Tierra

> D. Having a hit on a joint at Tony's Mirror Shine on Houston Street.
>
> By gad, sir, please continue and do not leave us hanging in suspenders.

The Lone Star brewery at Alamo Park is where I got the beer.

The clap was so rampent it San Antonio in '74 that the whore were almost a
certainty of comming home with a drippy dick. Oddly enough, there was a
brothel adjacent to where they dropped us off the bus.

[PosterBoy]

"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>
> The clap was so rampent it San Antonio in '74 that the whore were almost a
> certainty of comming home with a drippy dick. Oddly enough, there was a
> brothel adjacent to where they dropped us off the bus.

Hmmmm, John....
I would not have suspected even you of hangin' with whores who had
dicks...drippy or otherwise!

Cheers.

[B2431]

>From: "PosterBoy"

>
>"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> The clap was so rampent it San Antonio in '74 that the whore were almost a
>> certainty of comming home with a drippy dick. Oddly enough, there was a
>> brothel adjacent to where they dropped us off the bus.
>
> Hmmmm, John....
> I would not have suspected even you of hangin' with whores who had
>dicks...drippy or otherwise!
>
>Cheers.
>
Well, it would explain a few things.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[fudog50]

Yeah and the Navy is opening up 2 new recruiting offices in Salt Lake
City. They want to recruit sailors that don't drink, don't swear and
are basically celibate. But can they fight a war worth a dam???

On 05 Feb 2004 04:50:05 GMT, (Krztalizer) wrote:

><key ship's IMC>
>
>"...There will be a meeting of the Morale Suppression Team at 2200 hours in the
>ship's library. That is all."
>

[fudog50]

Yep , A and C explains everything, including the continual spelling
errors, and attitude, thanks Tarver.

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:12:08 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> wrote:

>
>"Ted Gittinger" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Les Matheson" > wrote in message
>> > news:O2iUb.2338$Yj.187@lakeread02...
>> > > "The floggings will continue until morale improves"
>> >
>> > Such action would only be necessary if lap dances are prohibited.
>> >
>> > I know the only Lone Star I ever enjoyed was one I should not have been
>> > drinking.
>>
>> And thereby hangs a tale.
>>
>> I'll start it off:
>>
>> You were:
>>
>> A. A airman basic at Lackland AFB;
>
>> B. A medic in training at BAMC.
>>
>> C. A student at Central Catholic High.
>
>
>I'd have to go with A and C, I was 17 at Lackland and going back to finnish
>my senior year of HS. The USAF was a great adventure.
>
>> You had this experience at:
>>
>> A. Hipp's Bubble Room
>>
>> B. The Pan American Cafe
>>
>> C. Mi Tierra
>
>> D. Having a hit on a joint at Tony's Mirror Shine on Houston Street.
>>
>> By gad, sir, please continue and do not leave us hanging in suspenders.
>
>The Lone Star brewery at Alamo Park is where I got the beer.
>
>The clap was so rampent it San Antonio in '74 that the whore were almost a
>certainty of comming home with a drippy dick. Oddly enough, there was a
>brothel adjacent to where they dropped us off the bus.
>

[Tarver Engineering]

"fudog50" > wrote in message
...
> Yep , A and C explains everything, including the continual spelling
> errors, and attitude, thanks Tarver.

The spelling errors are okie phionics, the way California taught me to spell
as a child. It is a very lazy way to write for me.

[COL RSJ]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:12:15 +0000,
wrote:

>>
>>http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
>>
>>U.S. military blames lap dances
>>for declining military discipline
>>
>>EAST-ASIA-INTEL.COM
>>Tuesday, February 3, 2004
>>
>>SEOUL -
>>
>>The U.S. military has asked South Korea
>>to ban lap dancing and other lewd acts
>>at local nightclubs near its bases,
>>saying they negatively impact military
>>discipline.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
>Hold it right there, General.
>
>Order your men not to enter those night clubs.

What ever happened to putting clubs "off limits"

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>The officials said the military was taking
>>similar steps at other bases in the United
>>States and overseas against lap dancing.
>>
>>The U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division,
>>which has 15,000 troops near the border
>>with North Korea,
>>
>>recently sent letters to the South Korean
>>Special Tourist Association and local mayors
>>urging a crack down on lap dancing clubs
>>near barracks.
>>
>>Describing
>>"client-focused exotic dancing"
>>as the principal cause of
>>worsening military discipline,
>>
>>the military letter called for local club
>>owners to "prohibit any physical contact
>>between dancers and (U.S.) customers."
>>
>>South Korean lap dancing clubs are totally
>>dependent on American customers because
>>they are not allowed to take local clients.
>>
>>U.S. officials declined to specify what
>>they meant by worsening military discipline.
>>
>>"We are following trends in the United States,"
>>
>>Lt. Col. Chris Bailey,
>>the 2nd Infantry Division's
>>assistant chief of staff,
>>told the Stars & Stripes newspaper.
>>
>>The U.S. Forces Korea has consulted
>>mainland laws banning lap dancing, he said.
>>
>>The more than 90 American installations
>>throughout South Korea have long been a
>>source of friction between residents
>>living near the U.S. facilities,
>>
>>who complain of pollution, noise
>>and traffic from the U.S. bases
>>and occasional crimes by American troops.
>>
>>Many crimes committed by U.S. servicemen
>>involve nightclubs near their barracks.
>>
>>Amid an increasing number of
>>American troops accused of crimes,
>>their legal protection has become
>>a sensitive issues for the two
>>governments.
>>
>>"The USFK will root out any practices
>>that go contrary to a positive environment
>>for U.S. soldiers, Korean residents and
>>people of all nationalities,"
>>
>>said Chae Yang-To,
>>
>>a spokesman for the 2nd Infantry Division.
>>
>>The United States maintains 37,000 troops
>>in South Korea to help defend it from a
>>potential conflict with North Korea under
>>a bilateral defense treaty signed after
>>the 1950-1953 Korean War.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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''To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.''