Looking for any old BUFF crew Chiefs out there

[Bill and Susan Maddux]

I worked the B-52Gs and Hs from 86-94 and the B-1B until 1998. I served with
the Buff out of Fairchild AFB in SAC and then in ACC, and the BONES at Dyess
AFB.

I pulled many Alert tours and Deployed with the Buff to Diego Garcia for
Desert Shield and Storm. Just want to hook up with people with a love of
heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince me
that the B-1 is a great aircraft.

Bill Maddux

[Tarver Engineering]

"Bill and Susan Maddux" > wrote in message
. com...
> I worked the B-52Gs and Hs from 86-94 and the B-1B until 1998. I served
with
> the Buff out of Fairchild AFB in SAC and then in ACC, and the BONES at
Dyess
> AFB.
>
> I pulled many Alert tours and Deployed with the Buff to Diego Garcia for
> Desert Shield and Storm. Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince me
> that the B-1 is a great aircraft.

The Bone works now and I doubt you'll find anyone dumb enough to talk bad
about the bone, only to have you shoot them in the back, Maddux.

[Tex Houston]

"Bill and Susan Maddux" > wrote in message
. com...
> I worked the B-52Gs and Hs from 86-94 and the B-1B until 1998. I served
with
> the Buff out of Fairchild AFB in SAC and then in ACC, and the BONES at
Dyess
> AFB.
>
> I pulled many Alert tours and Deployed with the Buff to Diego Garcia for
> Desert Shield and Storm. Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince me
> that the B-1 is a great aircraft.
>
> Bill Maddux
>

The B-52 Stratofortress Association is at:

http://www.stratofortress.org/

Their forum page is at:

http://www.stratofortress.org/forum/

Tex Houston
Fairchild AFB 1969-1972

[Eggroll135R]

>Just want to hook up with people with a love of
>heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince me
>that the B-1 is a great aircraft.
>
>Bill Maddux
>
>

It seems the aircrews love the B-1 and the maintainers hate it. I worked B-1's
at Dyess in the early '90's as an E/E troop. We must have just missed each
other as I left Texas in '94.

Eggroll

NKAWTG

[Jim Baker]

"Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
...
> >Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> >heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince
me
> >that the B-1 is a great aircraft.
> >
> >Bill Maddux
> >
> >
>
> It seems the aircrews love the B-1 and the maintainers hate it. I worked
B-1's
> at Dyess in the early '90's as an E/E troop. We must have just missed
each
> other as I left Texas in '94.
>
> Eggroll
>
> NKAWTG

It's too bad the Bone didn't have a good (as if any bailout situation is
good) non-ejection seat bailout capability. I took several maintainers for
flights on the Buff at Mather and, of course, they loved it. Not possible
in the Bone, but I assure you, you would have had a great time.

Most of the crew chiefs I met, Buff or Bone, loved working on their jet.
They all agreed it was harder on the Bone (those that had done both),
especially early on, but in my second tour I sat in many a morning MX brief
(I was the 28BS/DO for awhile) and the situation had improved a lot over the
decade. I understand now that there's a lot more parts available and it's
improved even more.

Regards,

Jim
MHR '81-'86
DYS '86-'91, '95-'97

Bill....lets not get into a food fight O.K.? lol

[Tarver Engineering]

"Jim Baker" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> > >heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince
me
> > >that the B-1 is a great aircraft.

> > It seems the aircrews love the B-1 and the maintainers hate it. I
worked B-1's
> > at Dyess in the early '90's as an E/E troop. We must have just missed
each
> > other as I left Texas in '94.

> It's too bad the Bone didn't have a good (as if any bailout situation is
> good) non-ejection seat bailout capability. I took several maintainers
for
> flights on the Buff at Mather and, of course, they loved it. Not possible
> in the Bone, but I assure you, you would have had a great time.
>
> Most of the crew chiefs I met, Buff or Bone, loved working on their jet.
> They all agreed it was harder on the Bone (those that had done both),
> especially early on, but in my second tour I sat in many a morning MX
brief
> (I was the 28BS/DO for awhile) and the situation had improved a lot over
the
> decade. I understand now that there's a lot more parts available and it's
> improved even more.

Yes, Baker, the bone finally works.

For maintainers, the Bone was a miserable pig, for nearly two decades.

[Bill and Susan Maddux]

good day sir,
naw I am over that, I still believe the bone was the worst aircraft I had
ever worked, But I can concede that it might have gotten better. I turn down
a chance twice to flight in the B-1 as command section of Dyess tried to
improve the morale of crew chiefs. most choose to do it by a good number
also refused this gift.

Good to here from you sir
"Jim Baker" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> > >heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince
> me
> > >that the B-1 is a great aircraft.
> > >
> > >Bill Maddux
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It seems the aircrews love the B-1 and the maintainers hate it. I
worked
> B-1's
> > at Dyess in the early '90's as an E/E troop. We must have just missed
> each
> > other as I left Texas in '94.
> >
> > Eggroll
> >
> > NKAWTG
>
> It's too bad the Bone didn't have a good (as if any bailout situation is
> good) non-ejection seat bailout capability. I took several maintainers
for
> flights on the Buff at Mather and, of course, they loved it. Not possible
> in the Bone, but I assure you, you would have had a great time.
>
> Most of the crew chiefs I met, Buff or Bone, loved working on their jet.
> They all agreed it was harder on the Bone (those that had done both),
> especially early on, but in my second tour I sat in many a morning MX
brief
> (I was the 28BS/DO for awhile) and the situation had improved a lot over
the
> decade. I understand now that there's a lot more parts available and it's
> improved even more.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
> MHR '81-'86
> DYS '86-'91, '95-'97
>
> Bill....lets not get into a food fight O.K.? lol
>
>

[Eggroll135R]

> But I can concede that it might have gotten better. I turn down
>a chance twice to flight in the B-1 as command section of Dyess tried to
>improve the morale of crew chiefs. most choose to do it by a good number
>also refused this gift.

I remember alot of maintainers turning down B-1 rides also. Supervision got
really upset when maintenance guys asked if they could turn in their B-1 ride
for a T-38 ride. :)

Eggroll

NKAWTG

[Bill and Susan Maddux]

Hello Eggroll135r, Its good to hear from a 135 guy too, I suppose I should
have add the back bone of SAC tanker fleet to that. Are you still in the
service and had you severed in SAC as well as AMC.
"Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
...
> > But I can concede that it might have gotten better. I turn down
> >a chance twice to flight in the B-1 as command section of Dyess tried to
> >improve the morale of crew chiefs. most choose to do it by a good number
> >also refused this gift.
>
> I remember alot of maintainers turning down B-1 rides also. Supervision
got
> really upset when maintenance guys asked if they could turn in their B-1
ride
> for a T-38 ride. :)
>
> Eggroll
>
> NKAWTG

[Bill and Susan Maddux]

How the family Colonel. Mine is doing fine, Susan is still pretty sick, but
she's taking it one day at a time.
just damn good to hear from you sir, and hope things are well with you.

Bill
"Jim Baker" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Just want to hook up with people with a love of
> > >heavy bombers or a dislike of the Bones...as I have. or try to convince
> me
> > >that the B-1 is a great aircraft.
> > >
> > >Bill Maddux
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It seems the aircrews love the B-1 and the maintainers hate it. I
worked
> B-1's
> > at Dyess in the early '90's as an E/E troop. We must have just missed
> each
> > other as I left Texas in '94.
> >
> > Eggroll
> >
> > NKAWTG
>
> It's too bad the Bone didn't have a good (as if any bailout situation is
> good) non-ejection seat bailout capability. I took several maintainers
for
> flights on the Buff at Mather and, of course, they loved it. Not possible
> in the Bone, but I assure you, you would have had a great time.
>
> Most of the crew chiefs I met, Buff or Bone, loved working on their jet.
> They all agreed it was harder on the Bone (those that had done both),
> especially early on, but in my second tour I sat in many a morning MX
brief
> (I was the 28BS/DO for awhile) and the situation had improved a lot over
the
> decade. I understand now that there's a lot more parts available and it's
> improved even more.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
> MHR '81-'86
> DYS '86-'91, '95-'97
>
> Bill....lets not get into a food fight O.K.? lol
>
>

[Eggroll135R]

>Hello Eggroll135r, Its good to hear from a 135 guy too, I suppose I should
>have add the back bone of SAC tanker fleet to that. Are you still in the
>service and had you severed in SAC as well as AMC.

I'm still in and at Grand Forks...There are still a few of us old "SAC trained
killers" around. I worked the B-1B's and then got transferred over to the
KC-135A's while at Dyess. I used to take a lot of ribbing from my ex-co
workers about becoming a Tanker Toad but I'd tell them I'd be thinking about
them after being released from work early. (Tankers landed Code 1 ALOT more
often than B-1's) "You enjoy your PCA op checks at 2200 on a Friday night and
I'll enjoy a nice cold beer back at the dorms..." That would get them to shut
up pretty quick! :) The other nice thing about -135's is that you usually
deploy on the aircraft that you are working on. No need to sit around waiting
for airlift.

Eggroll

NKAWTG

[Bill and Susan Maddux]

I had work the A model tanker for 6 months at Fairchild when they had a
shortage of crew chief during one of the Roll Backs. I was offered to stay
with them, but has just come back from a vacation spot off the coast of
Alaska for an alert tour and did not want to ever go back. But I did kick
myself went after AMC took over the base and the bombers move out. I had no
choices, Dyess or Dyess. I would have take Minot to stay with the BUFFs.
I have been out for about 5 years not and just moved from Minnesota to my
wife's home state of Missouri in July 03. how's the weather up there.
"Eggroll135R" > wrote in message
...
> >Hello Eggroll135r, Its good to hear from a 135 guy too, I suppose I
should
> >have add the back bone of SAC tanker fleet to that. Are you still in the
> >service and had you severed in SAC as well as AMC.
>
> I'm still in and at Grand Forks...There are still a few of us old "SAC
trained
> killers" around. I worked the B-1B's and then got transferred over to the
> KC-135A's while at Dyess. I used to take a lot of ribbing from my ex-co
> workers about becoming a Tanker Toad but I'd tell them I'd be thinking
about
> them after being released from work early. (Tankers landed Code 1 ALOT
more
> often than B-1's) "You enjoy your PCA op checks at 2200 on a Friday night
and
> I'll enjoy a nice cold beer back at the dorms..." That would get them to
shut
> up pretty quick! :) The other nice thing about -135's is that you
usually
> deploy on the aircraft that you are working on. No need to sit around
waiting
> for airlift.
>
> Eggroll
>
> NKAWTG