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Dave Kearton
February 12th 04, 10:31 AM
"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
...
| Dave,
|
| My other son is off with the Air Force, we dont comment on his
| operational issues, due to security nowdays.. im sure you understand.
|
| Anyone in the military service if smart, doesnt comment on operational
| issues outside the workplace as such.
|
| Just to inform you..i am a ex RAAF Mirage pilot from the 70s, and with
| my other son, we both use this internet debate forum nowdays.
|
| We also forward on my other sons emails in whatever form he chooses,
| from his time off work.
|
| So what is your problem?
|
| Please enlighten us... we all would like to know what your have against
| my son...
|
| Thanks
|
| Andrew and Jeff
|



Hello Andrew or Jeff.


This is the first time that we (or at least I) have had any real indication
that there is more than one person using the name 'Aerophotos'
For years we have seen his posts from your email address under the name
'Jolly Green Giant' At best, some of his posts are without tact,
at worst, they were offensive and racist (not all - but a large proportion).


I've noticed the difference in writing style and content over the last few
posts, compared to the last 3 years of posts that I've seen coming from
your email address. I apologise for mistakenly directing invective
in your direction.


If you're truly unaware of the nature of the posts that exist in Usenet that
are from your email address, I strongly suggest you use 'Google groups
search' to look through all 'Aerophotos' posts on r.a.m for the last 3
years or so.


I used the term 'special' in a facetious way and not seriously implying that
your son is retarded. He has few friends on Usenet that I can see,
few people post in support of his unique beliefs - which are his right to
say, thanks to servicemen such as yourself and the others who also took
offence to _many_ of your son's political statements. He is
entitled to believe them and say what he believes - but my belief is that
he says a lot of them to get attention or stir up trouble - within the
safety of Internet anonymity.


One of the aspects of free speech are also the consequences of saying
what's on your mind. In response to some of your son's inflammatory
posts - and at times offensive material, are the reactions to his
appearance on usenet.



After one series of posts where your son accused a certain ethnic group
(predominant in Sydney's western suburbs) of being all rapists and murders,
I sent him a private email with a suggestion that he tone it down a little.
A simple search of the internet found enough personal info to identify what
I presume is your house and (I presume) your wife's mobile number. I
pointed out that if I could find him that easily, then it was possible that
some of the individuals that he was slagging off, could do the same.



This worked for a month or so, then he returned as if nothing had happened.



Shortly after this, there was a brief move by one of the other posters to
track your son down and clean his clock. As this was a scary turn
and as I was the only person who had admitted that I knew how to find him,
I led the movement to leave him alone and preserve the insulation of the
Internet email system.


I promise to be more circumspect with responses to you in the future,
possibly using your Christian names at the bottom of your posts would elicit
a better response from your friends around the world.


I've taken the liberty of crossposting this to r.a.m. where I know this
discussion will shed light where only heat has been generated in the past.



I remain respectfully


Dave Kearton

Aerophotos
February 12th 04, 11:08 AM
Hi Dave

This reply from you is news to me. Some of these comments you make sound
very critical of my son.

I dont like some of your email's tone and language tho.

I will reply as fit below addressing the points you made.

I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.

I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
and alert.

As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
express whatever the person wishes.

It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
absolute goldmine of information. Other hand some other post vile and
rude emails. So be it.

Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time in
the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
many others.

Have you ever served in a military job?

I suspect if people dont like what they see, a VERY simple solution is
to tune out, not read or just block the incoming messages they dont
like.

(My sons have taught me how to block things online :) quite handy i
think :) )


We do and as such... we have many filters on our emails.


Next issue.. moving on....

The individual you mentioned as stalking us was, was rather violent i
will unfortunately admit. Due to legal issues i can not name him.

He gave us all a nasty scare and was harassing us for a long time.
I found this out by phone messages and having to deal with this abusive
and threatening person face to face one night.

After been threatened by him, we went to police and had some charges
laid against him.
We met him again in court and we had a AVO placed on this person.

Sadly this person I found apon the court session, was a serving Air
Force member much to my disgust. It was found out in court proceedings
that he had been sending emails back and forth with my other son.

My family are not pleased with this at all i have to say. We trust this
sick person will never bother us again. We also laid a complaint with
the RAAF against this person. We are still awaiting a outcome on this.

My son who is now in Air Force is a direct honest and very bright young
man.

I will agree tho how he presents himself in writing at times may lead
some to believe otherwise.

He has never used any form of manners in emails i saw he send his
friends or mates before he left for the RAAF.

He just writes directly and doesn't care how it comes out. Im sure
anyone who interacted with him on this forum can agree.

I am only finding out now tho rather lately what was online, as i get
older i use a computer more.

I as you have seen lately, use a more constructed and understanding ways
to converse with people as does the other son, Jeff.

My wife has served in legal positions in past jobs and i will show her
your email later tonight....and see what she thinks also of this
news....

Yours truly and thanks for insight,

Jeff



Dave Kearton wrote:
>
> "Aerophotos" > wrote in message
> ...
> | Dave,
> |
> | My other son is off with the Air Force, we dont comment on his
> | operational issues, due to security nowdays.. im sure you understand.
> |
> | Anyone in the military service if smart, doesnt comment on operational
> | issues outside the workplace as such.
> |
> | Just to inform you..i am a ex RAAF Mirage pilot from the 70s, and with
> | my other son, we both use this internet debate forum nowdays.
> |
> | We also forward on my other sons emails in whatever form he chooses,
> | from his time off work.
> |
> | So what is your problem?
> |
> | Please enlighten us... we all would like to know what your have against
> | my son...
> |
> | Thanks
> |
> | Andrew and Jeff
> |
>
> Hello Andrew or Jeff.
>
> This is the first time that we (or at least I) have had any real indication
> that there is more than one person using the name 'Aerophotos'
> For years we have seen his posts from your email address under the name
> 'Jolly Green Giant' At best, some of his posts are without tact,
> at worst, they were offensive and racist (not all - but a large proportion).
>
> I've noticed the difference in writing style and content over the last few
> posts, compared to the last 3 years of posts that I've seen coming from
> your email address. I apologise for mistakenly directing invective
> in your direction.
>
> If you're truly unaware of the nature of the posts that exist in Usenet that
> are from your email address, I strongly suggest you use 'Google groups
> search' to look through all 'Aerophotos' posts on r.a.m for the last 3
> years or so.
>
> I used the term 'special' in a facetious way and not seriously implying that
> your son is retarded. He has few friends on Usenet that I can see,
> few people post in support of his unique beliefs - which are his right to
> say, thanks to servicemen such as yourself and the others who also took
> offence to _many_ of your son's political statements. He is
> entitled to believe them and say what he believes - but my belief is that
> he says a lot of them to get attention or stir up trouble - within the
> safety of Internet anonymity.
>
> One of the aspects of free speech are also the consequences of saying
> what's on your mind. In response to some of your son's inflammatory
> posts - and at times offensive material, are the reactions to his
> appearance on usenet.
>
> After one series of posts where your son accused a certain ethnic group
> (predominant in Sydney's western suburbs) of being all rapists and murders,
> I sent him a private email with a suggestion that he tone it down a little.
> A simple search of the internet found enough personal info to identify what
> I presume is your house and (I presume) your wife's mobile number. I
> pointed out that if I could find him that easily, then it was possible that
> some of the individuals that he was slagging off, could do the same.
>
> This worked for a month or so, then he returned as if nothing had happened.
>
> Shortly after this, there was a brief move by one of the other posters to
> track your son down and clean his clock. As this was a scary turn
> and as I was the only person who had admitted that I knew how to find him,
> I led the movement to leave him alone and preserve the insulation of the
> Internet email system.
>
> I promise to be more circumspect with responses to you in the future,
> possibly using your Christian names at the bottom of your posts would elicit
> a better response from your friends around the world.
>
> I've taken the liberty of crossposting this to r.a.m. where I know this
> discussion will shed light where only heat has been generated in the past.
>
> I remain respectfully
>
> Dave Kearton

Nick Coleman
February 12th 04, 11:54 AM
Without getting into the politics of all this, I will just say that the laws
of libel in Australia certainly apply whatever the medium.

In other words, despite what some people say about the Internet being a
free-for-all, if you post a libellous message here on Usenet, you can be
prosecuted here in Australia if you reside in Australia.

The same applies for racism and anti-discrimination laws, which, although
State-based, are fairly universal across Australia.

Posting a message on Usenet is the same as putting an ad in a newspaper.
Your son may interested to know that.

Nick

Pits
February 12th 04, 05:12 PM
Reading the Dad and Dave saga perhaps the suggestion marked with ** would
he;help the special circumstances said to be involved in this matter .
"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dave
>
> This reply from you is news to me. Some of these comments you make sound
> very critical of my son.
** This is the first time you have read emails or newsgroups
emanating from this address right ?

>
> I dont like some of your email's tone and language tho.
>
** Tho. ?? A Seeventies era Mirage driver says "tho."
> I will reply as fit below addressing the points you made.
>
> I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
> then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.
** possibly your point in this contect is what exactly sir ?
>
> I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
> people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
> and alert.
>
** Sadly I am one of those not so polite and nice ones of which you speak.
I am cynicle and suspicious , sir.

> As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
> posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
> express whatever the person wishes.
** Agreed and here is one up front in your face post ,sir.
>
> It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
> absolute goldmine of information. Other hand some other post vile and
> rude emails. So be it.
** Ever been to Kalgoolie ? Its an absolute gold mine .
>
> Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time in
> the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
> many others.
>
** In my time within the ADF integrity and gentlemanly behaviour was also
taught.
Along with weed out the misfits . Less they kill the gentlemen .

> Have you ever served in a military job?
** possibly 1 or 2 <grin>

>
> I suspect if people dont like what they see, a VERY simple solution is
> to tune out, not read or just block the incoming messages they dont
> like.
>
** Perhaps and agree with the logic.However, when one takes on the family
of General Cosgrove its bound to get every ones attention, sir.

> (My sons have taught me how to block things online :) quite handy i
> think :) )
>
** heres a tip for you knuck --
http://ihug.com.au/joinus/index.html
notice the ten email addresses !!
>
> We do and as such... we have many filters on our emails.
** Incoming or outgoing ??
>
>
> Next issue.. moving on....
*Snip.
>
> My son who is now in Air Force is a direct honest and very bright young
> man.
>
**Is this the infamous JGG AKA Aerophotos ?
yes or no . asked only because he posted on many newsgroups then went
stum .
> I will agree tho how he presents himself in writing at times may lead
> some to believe otherwise.
** Speechless
>
> He has never used any form of manners in emails i saw he send his
> friends or mates before he left for the RAAF.
>
> He just writes directly and doesn't care how it comes out. Im sure
> anyone who interacted with him on this forum can agree.
>
** This one does not , sir.
> I am only finding out now tho rather lately what was online, as i get
> older i use a computer more.
** There is that like son like father writing style . You Tasmanian ??
If so you would know more than one Mirage driver from that state in the
70's
sir .
>
> I as you have seen lately, use a more constructed and understanding ways
> to converse with people as does the other son, Jeff.
*** jeff is JGG oer aerophotos or just plane Jeff ?
>
> My wife has served in legal positions in past jobs and i will show her
> your email later tonight....and see what she thinks also of this
> news....
** She is a licensed practitioner of laws. will she be commenting ion
spelling etc ? Sir.
>
> Yours truly and thanks for insight,
>
> Jeff
****** Jeff same name as son ? Is he Jeff junior or just Jeff ? sir.

> Dave Kearton wrote:
> >
> > "Aerophotos" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > | Dave,
> > |
> > | My other son is off with the Air Force, we dont comment on his
> > | operational issues, due to security nowdays.. im sure you understand.
> > |
> > | Anyone in the military service if smart, doesnt comment on operational
> > | issues outside the workplace as such.
> > |
> > | Just to inform you..i am a ex RAAF Mirage pilot from the 70s, and with
> > | my other son, we both use this internet debate forum nowdays.
> > |
> > | We also forward on my other sons emails in whatever form he chooses,
> > | from his time off work.
> > |
> > | So what is your problem?
> > |
> > | Please enlighten us... we all would like to know what your have
against
> > | my son...
> > |
> > | Thanks
> > |
> > | Andrew and Jeff
> > |
> >
> > Hello Andrew or Jeff.
> >
> > This is the first time that we (or at least I) have had any real
indication
> > that there is more than one person using the name 'Aerophotos'
> > For years we have seen his posts from your email address under the name
> > 'Jolly Green Giant' At best, some of his posts are without
tact,
> > at worst, they were offensive and racist (not all - but a large
proportion).
> >
> > I've noticed the difference in writing style and content over the last
few
> > posts, compared to the last 3 years of posts that I've seen coming from
> > your email address. I apologise for mistakenly directing
invective
> > in your direction.
> >
> > If you're truly unaware of the nature of the posts that exist in Usenet
that
> > are from your email address, I strongly suggest you use 'Google groups
> > search' to look through all 'Aerophotos' posts on r.a.m for the last 3
> > years or so.
> >
> > I used the term 'special' in a facetious way and not seriously implying
that
> > your son is retarded. He has few friends on Usenet that I can
see,
> > few people post in support of his unique beliefs - which are his right
to
> > say, thanks to servicemen such as yourself and the others who also took
> > offence to _many_ of your son's political statements. He is
> > entitled to believe them and say what he believes - but my belief is
that
> > he says a lot of them to get attention or stir up trouble - within the
> > safety of Internet anonymity.
> >
> > One of the aspects of free speech are also the consequences of saying
> > what's on your mind. In response to some of your son's
inflammatory
> > posts - and at times offensive material, are the reactions to his
> > appearance on usenet.
> >
> > After one series of posts where your son accused a certain ethnic group
> > (predominant in Sydney's western suburbs) of being all rapists and
murders,
> > I sent him a private email with a suggestion that he tone it down a
little.
> > A simple search of the internet found enough personal info to identify
what
> > I presume is your house and (I presume) your wife's mobile number. I
> > pointed out that if I could find him that easily, then it was possible
that
> > some of the individuals that he was slagging off, could do the same.
> >
> > This worked for a month or so, then he returned as if nothing had
happened.
> >
> > Shortly after this, there was a brief move by one of the other posters
to
> > track your son down and clean his clock. As this was a scary
turn
> > and as I was the only person who had admitted that I knew how to find
him,
> > I led the movement to leave him alone and preserve the insulation of the
> > Internet email system.
> >
> > I promise to be more circumspect with responses to you in the future,
> > possibly using your Christian names at the bottom of your posts would
elicit
> > a better response from your friends around the world.
> >
> > I've taken the liberty of crossposting this to r.a.m. where I know
this
> > discussion will shed light where only heat has been generated in the
past.
> >
> > I remain respectfully
> >
> > Dave Kearton

VH-CBR
February 12th 04, 06:53 PM
"Pits" > wrote in message ...

> >
> > I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
> > then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.
> ** possibly your point in this contect is what exactly sir ?

Hey! the arrogance appears a family trait ... :o)

> > I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
> > people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
> > and alert.

I suggest this needs to be directed at the son rather than those who are
simply reacting to the stupidity forced upon the group.

> > As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
> > posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
> > express whatever the person wishes.

This is true, so what is the problem? Others are just doing exactly the
same thing ...

> > It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
> > absolute goldmine of information.

And then there is the JGG who posts garbage, incorrect information and utter
twaddle.... Lucky those other knowledgable people are around to clear
up the disinformation isn't it?

> > Other hand some other post vile and
> > rude emails. So be it.

Funny, you appear to understand the concept, yet your posts indicate
otherwise. Hmmm....

> > Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time in
> > the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
> > many others.

Many of those others are the people within the newsgroup who had to put up
with your *sons* behaviour over the last few years.

> > Have you ever served in a military job?

ROFL .. you shouldn't assume that those within this newsgroup haven't.

> > I suspect if people dont like what they see, a VERY simple solution is
> > to tune out, not read or just block the incoming messages they dont
> > like.

This is very good advice. Might I suggest you re-read your own advice?

> > (My sons have taught me how to block things online :) quite handy i
> > think :) )

Well given the experience that your son has at being in everyones blocked
sender list this shouldn't have been hard :o)

> > We do and as such... we have many filters on our emails.
> ** Incoming or outgoing ??

Given the JGG's behaviour that's not surprising ... poor things are probably
inundated with unwanted mail ....

> > My son who is now in Air Force is a direct honest and very bright young
> > man.

Awwwwwwww .. it's sooooo cute .... all to often parents arent'
interested in their kids .. *wipes a tear away*

> > I will agree tho how he presents himself in writing at times may lead
> > some to believe otherwise.
> ** Speechless

:o)

> > He just writes directly and doesn't care how it comes out. Im sure
> > anyone who interacted with him on this forum can agree.

I would go the step further and suggest he didn't think about what he wrote
either.

> > I am only finding out now tho rather lately what was online, as i get
> > older i use a computer more.
> ** There is that like son like father writing style . You Tasmanian ??
> If so you would know more than one Mirage driver from that state in the
> 70's
> sir .

I used to work for a Mirage pilot .. although i'd be loathe to post his name
in the newsgroups .. top bloke though .. flew sabres and mirages and used to
hassle the big man to fly his PC9....

> > I as you have seen lately, use a more constructed and understanding ways
> > to converse with people as does the other son, Jeff.
> *** jeff is JGG oer aerophotos or just plane Jeff ?

He went to 1RTU .. he ain't no "plane Jeff"... jsut a plain Jeff

> > My wife has served in legal positions in past jobs and i will show her
> > your email later tonight....and see what she thinks also of this
> > news....

While you are at it .. show her your sons posts.

> ** She is a licensed practitioner of laws. will she be commenting ion
> spelling etc ? Sir.

:o) I'm hoping she'll read her sons posts with a dawning horror of the
fact that her son is a newsgroup troll.


> > Jeff
> ****** Jeff same name as son ? Is he Jeff junior or just Jeff ? sir.

How confusing ...I thought Jeff was the Kiddle and we were talking to the
Daddle ... *shrug* ....

Mind you, it's more fun than Days of Our Lives :o)

Pits
February 13th 04, 01:15 AM
Geeeeeeeeeeeze CBR watch those attributions PLEASE !!
"VH-CBR" > wrote in message
...
>
Jeff thats "plane Jeff "
as opposed to plain Jeff
May care to look up a post I recall said to come from
a"friend" of the JGG came in here and x posting to several other groups
also saying he was an Ex Knuck
that friend got up the nose of at least 3 real ex mirage drivers who tore
the bull dust to shreds it never posted again .Interestingly enough he
was also an Ihug user
perhaps one of these is worth a look
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame54.html

Now to just plane Jeff you being an ex Miracle driver
could help me out with a few things
Approach speed is what coming over the fence ?
the Arming switch and weapons selector panel is on which side of the
cockpit?

The word Whites indicates what to a Mirage flight?
How does one initiate an ejection sequence in a miarge ?

Two seat Mirages had something important missing
what was it ?
The no go area for salt ash range was nicknamed what ?

The fighter version and the attack versions of the Mirage had what
differences .

Such things would be of interest to many on here I suggest .

Dad appeared to say
> > > Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time
in
> > > the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
> > > many others.
Out of interest which squadron/s were you in in the 70's
maybe we have met and have things in common .

> > > Have you ever served in a military job?
Perhaps one or two yes .
my phone is 0429200024

> > > Jeff
> > ****** Jeff same name as son ? Is he Jeff junior or just Jeff ?
sir.
>
> How confusing ...I thought Jeff was the Kiddle and we were talking to the
> Daddle ... *shrug* ....
>
> Mind you, it's more fun than Days of Our Lives :o)

CBR you forgot to append the suffix 'tho.

I think I have a copy of pilots notes about but maybe the white
ants have eaten them as well

Tosser
February 13th 04, 02:41 AM
"Pits" > wrote in message ...


> The no go area for salt ash range was nicknamed what ?


Mother Earth.

Brash
February 13th 04, 05:17 AM
"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Dave
>
> This reply from you is news to me. Some of these comments you make sound
> very critical of my son.
>
> I dont like some of your email's tone and language tho.
>
> I will reply as fit below addressing the points you made.
>
> I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
> then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.

*rolls eyes*

>
> I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
> people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
> and alert.
>
> As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
> posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
> express whatever the person wishes.

Except when it amounts to libel.

>
> It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
> absolute goldmine of information. Other hand some other post vile and
> rude emails.

Just like your little trooper. General Cosgrove wasn't very impressed, at
all.

Spelling flames are pretty lame, so I won't hit you with one. But.........
for someone who declares himself an Air Force officer, your spelling and
grammar leave something to be desired. I guess it runs in the family.

--
"The code of the warrior class has room for fallibility but there is no room
for a lack of integrity."

VH-CBR
February 13th 04, 06:52 AM
"Pits" > wrote in message ...
> Geeeeeeeeeeeze CBR watch those attributions PLEASE !!

yeah sorry ... it's a mix of having the JGG in the killfile (so seeing
everything third hand) AND whoever posted the html ... ;o)

I was pretty busy laughing at the whole thread .... It's all so familiar
isn't it.

It really isn't that hard to use different nicknames/addresses in a
newsgroup ... we do it here

RT
February 13th 04, 12:45 PM
Aerophotos/JGG sure wound you you lot up :-)

(All that happened is that he got his 13 year old sister to correct his
spelling ;-)

Tosser
February 13th 04, 01:33 PM
"RT" > wrote in message
...
> Aerophotos/JGG sure wound you you lot up :-)
>
> (All that happened is that he got his 13 year old sister to correct his
> spelling ;-)
>
>

He's got a little sister persona, too?

Dave Kearton
February 13th 04, 08:58 PM
"RT" > wrote in message
...
| Aerophotos/JGG sure wound you you lot up :-)
|
| (All that happened is that he got his 13 year old sister to correct his
| spelling ;-)
|
|



I must admit that it's a strong possibility. I decided to try this
new personality first - just on the off-chance that he is who he says he is.



The thought of Jolly getting his bum kicked by his dad, makes it worth it.




If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
this would also explain the similarities in writing style. It's
unlikely that both were dropped onto concrete floors as babies.






Cheers


Dave Kearton

Pits
February 14th 04, 12:05 AM
I looked in the phone book under Walter Mitty and it said See Aerophotos
very odd indeed?
However, Take this to the bank JGG Aerophotos Jeff Andrew
Copies of your Mails are now in the Hands of RAAF service police.
And one particular Federal policeman who I know is taking an interest in
you it appears on other matters.
My you have been busy haven't you .
You have the reference to our crimes act get mum to refer you to a brief
a very good one lives in Lakemba NSW
another lives in Parramatta I am sure Mr. Malouf although a Lebanese name
is a fair man and may take your matter on.
Bottom line you bought this on yourself.
Like the passenger opening his over head locker was heard to say
"shift happens "
Guess next time your in the Richmond area life's tough no more photo's
Have a good day

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
message ...
>
> "RT" > wrote in message
> ...
> | Aerophotos/JGG sure wound you you lot up :-)
> |
> | (All that happened is that he got his 13 year old sister to correct his
> | spelling ;-)
> |
> |
>
>
>
> I must admit that it's a strong possibility. I decided to try this
> new personality first - just on the off-chance that he is who he says he
is.
>
>
>
> The thought of Jolly getting his bum kicked by his dad, makes it worth it.
>
>
>
>
> If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
> this would also explain the similarities in writing style. It's
> unlikely that both were dropped onto concrete floors as babies.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>
>
>

B2431
February 14th 04, 02:20 AM
>From: "Dave Kearton"

>If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")

The correct line is "Luke, I is your father.....and your brother" and is from
"Redneck Star Wars."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dave Kearton
February 14th 04, 02:35 AM
"B2431" > wrote in message
...
| >From: "Dave Kearton"
|
| >If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
|
| The correct line is "Luke, I is your father.....and your brother" and is
from
| "Redneck Star Wars."
|
| Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired




"...and ar know what you is gettin' fo Chrismas...

...arr felt yo presence...."









Cheers


Dave Kearton

Wayne Lawrence
February 14th 04, 05:10 AM
> If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")

This sounds like one of those conundrums..............

Brothers ans sister I have none.
But that mans father is my fathers son.
Who am I?



Wayne

Dave Kearton
February 14th 04, 05:12 AM
"Wayne Lawrence" > wrote in message
m...
| > If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
|
| This sounds like one of those conundrums..............
|
| Brothers ans sister I have none.
| But that mans father is my fathers son.
| Who am I?
|
|
|
| Wayne




You're adopted !






Cheers


Dave Kearton

Jagwire
February 14th 04, 08:41 AM
"Pits" > wrote in :

PITS you are a ******!!!
A ****ing BIG ******!!

> I looked in the phone book under Walter Mitty and it said See
> Aerophotos very odd indeed?
> However, Take this to the bank JGG Aerophotos Jeff Andrew
> Copies of your Mails are now in the Hands of RAAF service police.
> And one particular Federal policeman who I know is taking an interest
> in you it appears on other matters.
> My you have been busy haven't you .
> You have the reference to our crimes act get mum to refer you to a
> brief a very good one lives in Lakemba NSW
> another lives in Parramatta I am sure Mr. Malouf although a Lebanese
> name is a fair man and may take your matter on.
> Bottom line you bought this on yourself.
> Like the passenger opening his over head locker was heard to say
> "shift happens "
> Guess next time your in the Richmond area life's tough no more
> photo's Have a good day

RT
February 14th 04, 09:31 AM
Dave Kearton wrote in message ...
>"Wayne Lawrence" > wrote in message
m...
>| > If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father
Luke")
>|
>| This sounds like one of those conundrums..............
>|
>| Brothers ans sister I have none.
>| But that mans father is my fathers son.
>| Who am I?
>|
>|
>|
>| Wayne
>
>
>
>
>You're adopted !

Nah.
Just living proof sperm will hatch on a hot tin roof.

Dave Kearton
February 14th 04, 09:43 AM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
| "Pits" > wrote in :
|
| PITS you are a ******!!!
| A ****ing BIG ******!!
|



Hmmmm, I wonder who that could be, somebody new or an existing player.




Cheers


Dave Kearton

Pits
February 14th 04, 10:39 AM
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-194.newsdawg.com
User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
message ...
>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
> | "Pits" > wrote in :
> |
> | PITS you are a ******!!!
> | A ****ing BIG ******!!
> |
> >
> Hmmmm, I wonder who that could be, somebody new or an existing player.
> Cheers
> Dave Kearton
1 RAM snipped after this post and unsubscribed as those poor folks Have
suffered enough :-)

Now to Jagwire (oh dear oh Dear !!! so much TV and so little brain
power )
so jag wire or is that wired jerk ?

As the yanks say 'who's your daddy who's your daaaaaaaaaaardy "?
You ever hear that
Donald duck parody ?
Or was Jag on at the time ?

You want to come out and play ?
Then slither back to Aus Defence where we Know your a stroker
of the first order .

The poor long suffering US and Euro cousins don't know you like we do --do
they ?
But your IP only has ten FREE email addresses so
with all those other voiced rattling around in your head you will soon run
out.

There is always hotmail or google but they don't mask your original Ip
either
so your stuffed unless you save a few sheckles from your benefits cheque.

Message-ID: >
References: > >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-194.newsdawg.com
User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25

Xnews eh so you look at porn as well as Aerphotos ? Good lad
Now go away grab a tissue box clean your self up before I taunt you a
second time
you silly English Kah-niggit
I only respond to you so as to salve that sore of attention you so
desperately think you crave.

But sadly basically your just an oxygen thief .

Nuff said
By Andrew Jeff and Jeff Jolly Green and jagwire et al

Keith Willshaw
February 14th 04, 11:51 AM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
> "Pits" > wrote in :
>
> PITS you are a ******!!!
> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>

And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.

Keith

Lucas, Peter
February 14th 04, 02:22 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in news:c0l24q
:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Pits" > wrote in :
>>
>> PITS you are a ******!!!
>> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>>
>
> And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.
>

He only *wishes"!! But he's right........ Pits is a ****ing ******......
a ****ing BIG ******!!

You lot actually *think* this is sane.................????

"Pits" > wrote in :

> I looked in the phone book under Walter Mitty and it said See
> Aerophotos very odd indeed?
> However, Take this to the bank JGG Aerophotos Jeff Andrew
> Copies of your Mails are now in the Hands of RAAF service police.
> And one particular Federal policeman who I know is taking an interest
> in you it appears on other matters.
> My you have been busy haven't you .
> You have the reference to our crimes act get mum to refer you to a
> brief a very good one lives in Lakemba NSW
> another lives in Parramatta I am sure Mr. Malouf although a Lebanese
> name is a fair man and may take your matter on.
> Bottom line you bought this on yourself.
> Like the passenger opening his over head locker was heard to say
> "shift happens "
> Guess next time your in the Richmond area life's tough no more
> photo's Have a good day


If you do, you're more ****ed than what you realise.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Atheism is a non-prophet organization

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Gene Police: YOU.. Out of the pool!

Help stamp out and eradicate superfluous redundancy

Lucas, Peter
February 14th 04, 02:23 PM
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>| "Pits" > wrote in :
>|
>| PITS you are a ******!!!
>| A ****ing BIG ******!!
>|
>
>
>
> Hmmmm, I wonder who that could be, somebody new or an existing
> player.
>


Ahhhhh........ DUHHHHHHH!!!


What were you? A cook?

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Atheism is a non-prophet organization

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Gene Police: YOU.. Out of the pool!

Help stamp out and eradicate superfluous redundancy

Lucas, Peter
February 14th 04, 02:24 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in news:c0l24q
:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Pits" > wrote in :
>>
>> PITS you are a ******!!!
>> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>>
>
> And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.
>

**** me!! Another cook!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Atheism is a non-prophet organization

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Gene Police: YOU.. Out of the pool!

Help stamp out and eradicate superfluous redundancy

Tosser
February 14th 04, 10:06 PM
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...


> If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
> this would also explain the similarities in writing style.


Sure. And you had to write like that to become a Mirage driver/air force
officer..

<WINK><WINK><NUDGE><NUDGE>

Jagwire
February 14th 04, 10:19 PM
"Pits" > wrote in :

That load of dribble just proved my point!
You are a PITiful ******!!

>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-194.newsdawg.com
> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
> "Dave Kearton" > wrote
> in message ...
>>
>> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
>> ...
>> | "Pits" > wrote in :
>> |
>> | PITS you are a ******!!!
>> | A ****ing BIG ******!!
>> |
>> >
>> Hmmmm, I wonder who that could be, somebody new or an existing
>> player. Cheers
>> Dave Kearton
> 1 RAM snipped after this post and unsubscribed as those poor folks
> Have suffered enough :-)
>
> Now to Jagwire (oh dear oh Dear !!! so much TV and so little
> brain power )
> so jag wire or is that wired jerk ?
>
> As the yanks say 'who's your daddy who's your daaaaaaaaaaardy "?
> You ever hear that
> Donald duck parody ?
> Or was Jag on at the time ?
>
> You want to come out and play ?
> Then slither back to Aus Defence where we Know your a stroker
> of the first order .
>
> The poor long suffering US and Euro cousins don't know you like we do
> --do they ?
> But your IP only has ten FREE email addresses so
> with all those other voiced rattling around in your head you will
> soon run out.
>
> There is always hotmail or google but they don't mask your original
> Ip either
> so your stuffed unless you save a few sheckles from your benefits
> cheque.
>
> Message-ID: >
> References: >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-194.newsdawg.com
> User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
>
> Xnews eh so you look at porn as well as Aerphotos ? Good lad
> Now go away grab a tissue box clean your self up before I taunt you
> a second time
> you silly English Kah-niggit
> I only respond to you so as to salve that sore of attention you so
> desperately think you crave.
>
> But sadly basically your just an oxygen thief .
>
> Nuff said
> By Andrew Jeff and Jeff Jolly Green and jagwire et al
>
>
>

Jagwire
February 14th 04, 10:21 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in news:c0l24q$140
:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Pits" > wrote in :
>>
>> PITS you are a ******!!!
>> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>>
>
> And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.
>
> Keith
>
>

Belong to the PITiful fan club, Keith?

If you believe half the **** Pits goes on about, you are not very bright!

Dave Kearton
February 14th 04, 10:30 PM
"Tosser" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Dave Kearton" > wrote in
message
| ...
|
|
| > If this new personality really is his father ( "I are your father Luke")
| > this would also explain the similarities in writing style.
|
|
| Sure. And you had to write like that to become a Mirage driver/air force
| officer..
|
| <WINK><WINK><NUDGE><NUDGE>
|




I had hoped that Jolly's 'father' wrote like this because he was not
accustomed to using a keyboard and it all seemed too hard. By the
time you get to that age, learning keyboard skills can be a trial.


I'll point out now that there are real people on this newsgroup who are
significantly older than Jolly's Mirage pilot personality and who can spell
and type perfectly.


I guess anybody's typing style would be affected with a sock over their
hand.




Cheers


Dave Kearton

Dave Kearton
February 14th 04, 11:04 PM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
| "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in
news:c0l24q$140
| :
|
|
| Belong to the PITiful fan club, Keith?
|
| If you believe half the **** Pits goes on about, you are not very bright!





You seem rather passionate on this subject Jagwire, what's your
involvement ?








Cheers


Dave Kearton

Keith Willshaw
February 14th 04, 11:25 PM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in
news:c0l24q$140
> :
>
> >
> > "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Pits" > wrote in :
> >>
> >> PITS you are a ******!!!
> >> A ****ing BIG ******!!
> >>
> >
> > And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
>
> Belong to the PITiful fan club, Keith?
>
> If you believe half the **** Pits goes on about, you are not very bright!

All I believe is that this newsgroup has been invaded by
a bunch of immature foul mouthed neanderthals all of whom are being
introduced to my kill file starting with you.

Byeee

Keith

Jag wire
February 16th 04, 02:00 AM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in
:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in
> news:c0l24q$140
>> :
>>
>> >
>> > "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> "Pits" > wrote in :
>> >>
>> >> PITS you are a ******!!!
>> >> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>> >>
>> >
>> > And at a guess you are 14 years old , mentally at least.
>> >
>> > Keith
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Belong to the PITiful fan club, Keith?
>>
>> If you believe half the **** Pits goes on about, you are not very
>> bright!
>
> All I believe is that this newsgroup has been invaded by
> a bunch of immature foul mouthed neanderthals all of whom are being
> introduced to my kill file starting with you.
>
> Byeee
>
> Keith

Idiot

Brash
February 16th 04, 10:16 AM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
> "Pits" > wrote in :
>
> PITS you are a ******!!!
> A ****ing BIG ******!!

I think you've rattled him Phil.

I wonder if he'll come after me next?


--
"The code of the warrior class has room for fallibility but there is no room
for a lack of integrity."

>
> > I looked in the phone book under Walter Mitty and it said See
> > Aerophotos very odd indeed?
> > However, Take this to the bank JGG Aerophotos Jeff Andrew
> > Copies of your Mails are now in the Hands of RAAF service police.
> > And one particular Federal policeman who I know is taking an interest
> > in you it appears on other matters.
> > My you have been busy haven't you .
> > You have the reference to our crimes act get mum to refer you to a
> > brief a very good one lives in Lakemba NSW
> > another lives in Parramatta I am sure Mr. Malouf although a Lebanese
> > name is a fair man and may take your matter on.
> > Bottom line you bought this on yourself.
> > Like the passenger opening his over head locker was heard to say
> > "shift happens "
> > Guess next time your in the Richmond area life's tough no more
> > photo's Have a good day
>

Brash
February 16th 04, 10:18 AM
"Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
...
> "Pits" > wrote in :
>
> That load of dribble just proved my point!
> You are a PITiful ******!!

I see he still has a sticky "shift" key.

--
"The code of the warrior class has room for fallibility but there is no room
for a lack of integrity."

Jagwire
February 24th 04, 07:04 AM
"Brash" > wrote in news:4030971c$0$28872$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

>
> "Jagwire" <Newsguy> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Pits" > wrote in :
>>
>> PITS you are a ******!!!
>> A ****ing BIG ******!!
>
> I think you've rattled him Phil.
>
> I wonder if he'll come after me next?
>

Only if you make really stupid statements like Pits

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