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dave
May 16th 08, 02:29 AM
Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
auto fuel?
I've been to the EPA website and get 1000 hits on ethanol, but none
which show me the requirements.
Thanks
Dave
Dave[_5_]
May 16th 08, 02:35 AM
On May 15, 6:29*pm, Dave > wrote:
> Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
> auto fuel?
> I've been to the EPA website and get 1000 hits on ethanol, but none
> which show me the requirements.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
And beyond that, where can I find out which states are doing what? I
have tried researching the subject and have
pretty much drawn a blank.
The other Dave
Robert M. Gary
May 16th 08, 12:47 PM
On May 15, 6:29*pm, Dave > wrote:
> Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
> auto fuel?
> I've been to the EPA website and get 1000 hits on ethanol, but none
> which show me the requirements.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
"Congress passed a law last year mandating a ramp-up to 15 billion
gallons of corn ethanol by 2015 and 36 billion by 2022."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354173,00.html?sPage=fnc/politics/senate
I wasn't able to find the text of the requirement though. However,
knowing the dates and amount might help your search.
There is also a mandate that fuel contain a certain percentage of
"renewable" content that probably also plays into this.
-Robert
dave
May 16th 08, 11:50 PM
Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On May 15, 6:29 pm, Dave > wrote:
>> Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
>> auto fuel?
>> I've been to the EPA website and get 1000 hits on ethanol, but none
>> which show me the requirements.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dave
>
> "Congress passed a law last year mandating a ramp-up to 15 billion
> gallons of corn ethanol by 2015 and 36 billion by 2022."
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354173,00.html?sPage=fnc/politics/senate
>
> I wasn't able to find the text of the requirement though. However,
> knowing the dates and amount might help your search.
> There is also a mandate that fuel contain a certain percentage of
> "renewable" content that probably also plays into this.
>
> -Robert
I found this on the peterson web site
http://www.autofuelstc.com/autofuelstc/pa/ethanol.html
Pretty informative.
Dave
Mike Spera
May 18th 08, 02:17 PM
> Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
> auto fuel?
> I've been to the EPA website and get 1000 hits on ethanol, but none
> which show me the requirements.
>
Ethanol finds its way into auto fuel via state mandates that measure
smog and other pollutants in major metro areas. The states mandate
oxygenates as a cure-all for these problems when they reach certain
measured thresholds (in other words, every day). The giant corn peddlers
(like ADM) line the pockets of the politicos and presto! Ethanol appears
in your tank. Any discussion of the relative merits vs. the downside is
immediately silenced by corn lobby backed "research" to show the
contrary. The corn peddlers win, the congress critters win, everyone
else pays. In all, a "good day" in US politics.
Mike
(Holder of a USELESS auto fuel STC in the Chicago area)
JGalban via AviationKB.com
May 19th 08, 10:58 PM
Dave wrote:
>Where is it dictated that certain states/cities require ethanol in their
>auto fuel?
The Clean Air Act of 1990 mandated Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) in certain
states/counties. Many other locations opted in to the program. RFG is a
gasoline with added oxygenates. In the old days, this was mostly
accomplished using MTBE as an additive. Since the demise of MTBE, ethanol is
the primary oxygenate in RFG.
John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
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Robert M. Gary
May 22nd 08, 05:20 PM
On May 16, 3:50*pm, Dave > wrote:
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
> I found this on the peterson web sitehttp://www.autofuelstc.com/autofuelstc/pa/ethanol.html
> Pretty informative.
>
> Dave
Reason number #34 why flying in Mexico is more fun. There is no
Ethanol in any gas anywhere in Mexico. In fact they consider it
inhumane to put ethanol in gas because it robs others of food by
displacing farm land.
-Robert
clint
May 23rd 08, 09:24 AM
what a crock seniours fart like beanery machines down there!on
5/22/2008, Robert M. Gary supposed :
> Reason number #34 why flying in Mexico is more fun. There is no
> Ethanol in any gas anywhere in Mexico. In fact they consider it
> inhumane to put ethanol in gas because it robs others of food by
> displacing farm land.
> -Robert
Robert M. Gary
May 23rd 08, 08:30 PM
On May 23, 1:24*am, "clint" > wrote:
> what a crock seniours fart like beanery machines down there!on
Are you saying you don't believe Mexican's have that attitude? Are you
saying you haven't seen the protests against Ethanol in Mexico?
-Robert
Gig 601Xl Builder
May 23rd 08, 09:24 PM
Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On May 23, 1:24 am, "clint" > wrote:
>> what a crock seniours fart like beanery machines down there!on
>
> Are you saying you don't believe Mexican's have that attitude? Are you
> saying you haven't seen the protests against Ethanol in Mexico?
>
> -Robert
Mexico Approves Corn and Sugar Cane Ethanol Law
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/04/mexico_approves.php
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