X-Wind simulator

[Paul M. Anton]

Has anyone had any experience with this device?

http://www.dandyercfi.com/xwindsim/

Is it a valuable training aid or just another toy?

I will be driving up through California and am considering taking a training
session.
How else could I try my hand at howling gusty crosswinds and not worry about
breaking my plane. :-)

Thanks

Paul
N1431A
KPLU

[EK]

Get some x-wind landing practice with an instructor in a real airplane as
well. Learn to know when the x-wind and gusts exceed your safety limit and
go around to land on a more favorable runway. My2c.
Warrior 2096L.

"Paul M. Anton" > wrote in message
...
> Has anyone had any experience with this device?
>
> http://www.dandyercfi.com/xwindsim/
>
> Is it a valuable training aid or just another toy?
>
> I will be driving up through California and am considering taking a
> training session.
> How else could I try my hand at howling gusty crosswinds and not worry
> about breaking my plane. :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
> N1431A
> KPLU
>

[Mike[_22_]]

I can't imagine the "simulator" shown on the web site being of much value.
Personally I just practice x-wind landings without an instructor, but if you
don't know the proper techniques then you should seek the help of an
instructor you trust. Perfect practice makes perfect. Imperfect practice
just reinforces bad habits.

"EK" > wrote in message
ng.com...
> Get some x-wind landing practice with an instructor in a real airplane as
> well. Learn to know when the x-wind and gusts exceed your safety limit and
> go around to land on a more favorable runway. My2c.
> Warrior 2096L.
>
> "Paul M. Anton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Has anyone had any experience with this device?
>>
>> http://www.dandyercfi.com/xwindsim/
>>
>> Is it a valuable training aid or just another toy?
>>
>> I will be driving up through California and am considering taking a
>> training session.
>> How else could I try my hand at howling gusty crosswinds and not worry
>> about breaking my plane. :-)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>> N1431A
>> KPLU
>>
>
>

[Nogas]

There will always be detractors and proponents concerning most aspects
of flight training. I found myself on the proponent side of this one
after 2 hours in the sim.


On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:50:56 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:

>I can't imagine the "simulator" shown on the web site being of much value.
>Personally I just practice x-wind landings without an instructor, but if you
>don't know the proper techniques then you should seek the help of an
>instructor you trust. Perfect practice makes perfect. Imperfect practice
>just reinforces bad habits.
>
>"EK" > wrote in message
ng.com...
>> Get some x-wind landing practice with an instructor in a real airplane as
>> well. Learn to know when the x-wind and gusts exceed your safety limit and
>> go around to land on a more favorable runway. My2c.
>> Warrior 2096L.
>>
>> "Paul M. Anton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Has anyone had any experience with this device?
>>>
>>> http://www.dandyercfi.com/xwindsim/
>>>
>>> Is it a valuable training aid or just another toy?
>>>
>>> I will be driving up through California and am considering taking a
>>> training session.
>>> How else could I try my hand at howling gusty crosswinds and not worry
>>> about breaking my plane. :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> N1431A
>>> KPLU
>>>
>>
>>

[Mike[_22_]]

"Nogas" wrote in message ...
>
> There will always be detractors and proponents concerning most aspects
> of flight training. I found myself on the proponent side of this one
> after 2 hours in the sim.

There's also one born every minute who would be willing to pay for something
like that.

You're kidding, right? $250 for 2 hours in that thing? You can just about
rent a REAL airplane with an instructor and do REAL x-wind landings for that
much.

The local flight school charges:

2 hours LSA rental @ $98 per hour (wet) = $196
2 hours CFI @ $35 per hour = $70
Total = $266

Hmmm, let's see. I can sit on a roller chair that someone turned sideways
for 2 hours while they make airplane noises or for about the same price I
can do the real thing. Call me crazy, but I think I'd rather do the real
thing.

If you can't handle a 15kt x-wind after two hours of instruction in a real
airplane, you probably shouldn't be flying in the first place.


>
>
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:50:56 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:
>
>>I can't imagine the "simulator" shown on the web site being of much value.
>>Personally I just practice x-wind landings without an instructor, but if
>>you
>>don't know the proper techniques then you should seek the help of an
>>instructor you trust. Perfect practice makes perfect. Imperfect practice
>>just reinforces bad habits.
>>
>>"EK" > wrote in message
ng.com...
>>> Get some x-wind landing practice with an instructor in a real airplane
>>> as
>>> well. Learn to know when the x-wind and gusts exceed your safety limit
>>> and
>>> go around to land on a more favorable runway. My2c.
>>> Warrior 2096L.
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Anton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Has anyone had any experience with this device?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dandyercfi.com/xwindsim/
>>>>
>>>> Is it a valuable training aid or just another toy?
>>>>
>>>> I will be driving up through California and am considering taking a
>>>> training session.
>>>> How else could I try my hand at howling gusty crosswinds and not worry
>>>> about breaking my plane. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> N1431A
>>>> KPLU
>>>>
>>>
>>>

[Nogas]

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:52:43 GMT, "Mike" > wrote:

>Call me crazy, but I think I'd rather do the real
>thing.

To each his own...

http://www.studentpilot.com/interact/forum/showthread.php?t=28521

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