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May 31st 08, 12:26 AM
Believe it or not....

Words will be quite clear after viewing this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtUYN-euXqo

Today's flight to KJAN, KHKS and my own airport. KHKS and KMBO
landings, camera either tilted back or inadvertently zoomed in but oh
well, in the full scheme of things, camera is secondary as somebody
needs to land the plane!

Allen

Ron Garret
May 31st 08, 10:35 PM
In article
>,
" > wrote:

> Believe it or not....

The only part of this I don't believe is that the engine didn't burst
into flames on startup. Ten shots of primer? Seems a tad excessive.

rg

Ron A.[_3_]
May 31st 08, 11:14 PM
Very nice job of video editing and camera work, it is hard and time
consuming to do that good of a job. You need to fix the spelling in the
titles. In warm weather I don't need ANY shots of primer to start the
Sundowner quickly.

> wrote in message
...
> Believe it or not....
>
> Words will be quite clear after viewing this video.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtUYN-euXqo
>
> Today's flight to KJAN, KHKS and my own airport. KHKS and KMBO
> landings, camera either tilted back or inadvertently zoomed in but oh
> well, in the full scheme of things, camera is secondary as somebody
> needs to land the plane!
>
> Allen

Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)
June 1st 08, 12:17 AM
On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:35:32 -0700, Ron Garret >
wrote:

>In article
>,
> " > wrote:
>
>> Believe it or not....
>
>The only part of this I don't believe is that the engine didn't burst
>into flames on startup. Ten shots of primer? Seems a tad excessive.

It isn't in my '76 Sundowner. I'd have to believe Al's is similar.

When I first got the plane, I'd prime it like the fleet of Warrior's I
had trained in. A few dead batteries later, the nice folks at the
Beech Aero Club helped me understand what I was doing wrong.

My POH states 8-10 shots in a cold engine. I usually use 1-2 for a
warm start.

Ron Garret
June 1st 08, 01:05 AM
In article >,
"Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)"
> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:35:32 -0700, Ron Garret >
> wrote:
>
> >In article
> >,
> > " > wrote:
> >
> >> Believe it or not....
> >
> >The only part of this I don't believe is that the engine didn't burst
> >into flames on startup. Ten shots of primer? Seems a tad excessive.
>
> It isn't in my '76 Sundowner. I'd have to believe Al's is similar.
>
> When I first got the plane, I'd prime it like the fleet of Warrior's I
> had trained in. A few dead batteries later, the nice folks at the
> Beech Aero Club helped me understand what I was doing wrong.
>
> My POH states 8-10 shots in a cold engine. I usually use 1-2 for a
> warm start.

Well, shows how much I know. I've never flown a Beech, only Cessnas and
Pipers (and Cirri but they have electric primers). 2-3 shots was plenty.

rg

Ray Andraka
June 1st 08, 01:26 AM
Ron Garret wrote:
> In article >,
> "Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:35:32 -0700, Ron Garret >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article
>,
" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Believe it or not....
>>>
>>>The only part of this I don't believe is that the engine didn't burst
>>>into flames on startup. Ten shots of primer? Seems a tad excessive.
>>
>>It isn't in my '76 Sundowner. I'd have to believe Al's is similar.
>>
>>When I first got the plane, I'd prime it like the fleet of Warrior's I
>>had trained in. A few dead batteries later, the nice folks at the
>>Beech Aero Club helped me understand what I was doing wrong.
>>
>>My POH states 8-10 shots in a cold engine. I usually use 1-2 for a
>>warm start.
>
>
> Well, shows how much I know. I've never flown a Beech, only Cessnas and
> Pipers (and Cirri but they have electric primers). 2-3 shots was plenty.
>
> rg

Same with the Sundowner I flew about 15 years ago. It took me a while
getting used to priming less with my Six, which requires no shots when
it is hot out, 2 shots in temperate weather, and usually 5 or 6 when cold.

June 3rd 08, 01:38 AM
On May 31, 4:35*pm, Ron Garret > wrote:

> The only part of this I don't believe is that the engine didn't burst
> into flames on startup. *Ten shots of primer? *Seems a tad excessive.

As others posted, 10 shots is the only way.in my Sundowner.

Though truth be known, I think the first five shots really is "priming
the primer" as I get no resistance in the pulling or pushing.

Around five, I start hearing the suction of the primer so by the 10th
shot or so, I have good solid resistance, pushing and pulling.on the
knob.

June 3rd 08, 01:42 AM
On May 31, 5:14*pm, "Ron A." > wrote:
> You need to fix the spelling in the
> titles. *In warm weather I don't need ANY shots of primer to start the
> Sundowner quickly.

Thanks for the compliments!

Windows Movie Maker doesn't have spell checker and usually I catch the
errors after a couple of days. Watching time and time over for timing
gets weary on the eyes, and spelling kinda blends in.

In 90 degree weather down here, I can get 'er started in about 5 shots
of prime, but takes about 6 or 7 turns of the prop, but when I go 10
shots, usually within 2 or 3 turns, she fires right up.

As soon as it's running though, I lean pretty agressively especially
on taxi to burn off any potential lead build up.due to my extra
priming.

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