Priceless in Afganistan

[breyfogle]

Priceless in Afghanistan

From Afghanistan Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:43 AM

Story of the week;

So we are up in the mountains at about 0100 hrs looking for a bad guy that
we thought was in the area.
Here are ten of us, pitch black, crystal clear night, about 25 degrees. We
know there are bad guys in the area;
a few shots have been fired but no big deal. We decide that we need air
cover and the only thing in the area
is a solo B-1 bomber. He flies around at about 20,000 feet and tells us
there is nothing in the area.
He then asks if we would like a low level show of force. Stupid question.
Of course we tell him yes.

The controller who is attached to the team then is heard talking to the
pilot. Pilot asks if we want it
subsonic or supersonic. Very stupid question. Pilot advises he is twenty
miles out and stand by.
The controller gets us all sitting down in a line and points out the proper
location. You have to picture this.
Pitch black, ten killers sitting down, dead quiet and overlooking this about
30 mile long valley.
All of a sudden, way out (below our level) you see a set of four 200' white
flames coming at us. The controller
says, "Ah-- guys-- you might want to plug your ears". Faster than you can
think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
heads, blasts the sound barrier and it feels like God just hit you in the
head with a hammer". He then stands it
straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000
Hearing damage: For certain
Bunch of Taliban thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless

[BUFDRVR]

>Faster than you can
>think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
>heads

Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The most
dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196 of our
flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)

Good on the Bone, proves you don't need to drop weapons to save lives. Although
it makes you feel a Brit in the RAF circa 1921 doing "Air Control" over
Afghanistan...


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[Steve Hix]

In article >,
(BUFDRVR) wrote:

> >Faster than you can
> >think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
> >heads
>
> Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The most
> dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196 of our
> flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)

"Day into night"?

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"BUFDRVR" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The
> most dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196
> of our flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
>

Hmmm....., I would think putting out a great number of flares might have the
effect of turning night into day.

[Ron]

>> Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The
>> most dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196
>> of our flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
>>
>
>Hmmm....., I would think putting out a great number of flares might have the
>effect of turning night into day.

But you see, they were black-matter secret Nazi flares from WW2, that we stole
the technology from.




Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

[Ken Duffey]

breyfogle wrote:

> Priceless in Afghanistan

Snip..........

> The controller says, "Ah-- guys-- you might want to plug your ears". Faster
> than you can
> think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
> heads, blasts the sound barrier and it feels like God just hit you in the
> head with a hammer". He then stands it
> straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

I get your point - but can a Bone do 'supersonic' at 1,000 feet ????

Also - I have seen a B-1 do a max rate climb - but 'straight up' ??

A little hyperbole there I think ?

A good tale, nonetheless..........

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

[Greg Hennessy]

On 21 Feb 2004 06:09:04 GMT, (Ron) wrote:


>>Hmmm....., I would think putting out a great number of flares might have the
>>effect of turning night into day.
>
>But you see, they were black-matter secret Nazi flares from WW2, that we stole
>the technology from.
>
>

Ahh, the ones made from baaaybeeee killing depleted unobtainium.



greg

--
You do a lot less thundering in the pulpit against the Harlot
after she marches right down the aisle and kicks you in the nuts.

[BUFDRVR]

>"Day into night"?

LOL...ok, the other way around....


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[BUFDRVR]

>Hmmm....., I would think putting out a great number of flares might have the
>effect of turning night into day.
>

Yeah, what you said.....
BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[BUFDRVR]

>I get your point - but can a Bone do 'supersonic' at 1,000 feet ????

Yes.

>Also - I have seen a B-1 do a max rate climb - but 'straight up' ??

60-degrees nose high from the ground will look like "straight up" and even a
BUFF can do that.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[Mike Marron]

> (BUFDRVR) wrote:

>60-degrees nose high from the ground will look like "straight up" and even a
>BUFF can do that.

For a short while perhaps, but surely the behemoth cannot *sustain*
a 60-deg (relative to the horizon) climb.

[Steve Hix]

In article >,
(Ron) wrote:

> >> Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The
> >> most dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196
> >> of our flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
> >>
> >
> >Hmmm....., I would think putting out a great number of flares might have the
> >effect of turning night into day.
>
> But you see, they were black-matter secret Nazi flares from WW2, that we stole
> the technology from.

Oh. Well. That explains it, then.

[Steve Hix]

In article >,
Ken Duffey > wrote:

> breyfogle wrote:
>
> > Priceless in Afghanistan
>
> Snip..........
>
> > The controller says, "Ah-- guys-- you might want to plug your ears". Faster
> > than you can
> > think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
> > heads, blasts the sound barrier and it feels like God just hit you in the
> > head with a hammer". He then stands it
> > straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.
>
> I get your point - but can a Bone do 'supersonic' at 1,000 feet ????

1,000' MSL would be underground over much of Afghanistan, IIRC.

The lowest parts of the country are about 500' MSL, up near the northern
border with Turkmenestan. Most of the ground runs 2000' and higher.

> Also - I have seen a B-1 do a max rate climb - but 'straight up' ??
>
> A little hyperbole there I think ?
>
> A good tale, nonetheless..........
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>
>

[BUFDRVR]

>For a short while perhaps, but surely the behemoth cannot *sustain*
>a 60-deg (relative to the horizon) climb.

You start at 360 KIAS and end around 225 KIAS and about 15,000 higher than when
you started. It takes about 60-70 seconds.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[Mike Marron]

> (BUFDRVR) wrote:
>>Mike Marron wrote:

>>For a short while perhaps, but surely the behemoth cannot *sustain*
>>a 60-deg (relative to the horizon) climb.

>You start at 360 KIAS and end around 225 KIAS and about 15,000 higher than when
>you started. It takes about 60-70 seconds.

Smokes my kite. ;) It would take me about 10 minutes to climb to
15,000 ft. but since there's no structure around me to provide any
sense of security whatsoever, the ride up is equally as exhilarating!

[Blair Maynard]

"Steve Hix" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> (BUFDRVR) wrote:
>
> > >Faster than you can
> > >think a B-1, supersonic, 1000' over our
> > >heads
> >
> > Yeah, our shows of force over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The
most
> > dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196 of
our
> > flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
>
> "Day into night"?

New flare model, it absorbs light.

[Matt Wiser]

(BUFDRVR) wrote:
>>For a short while perhaps, but surely the behemoth
>cannot *sustain*
>>a 60-deg (relative to the horizon) climb.
>
>You start at 360 KIAS and end around 225 KIAS
>and about 15,000 higher than when
>you started. It takes about 60-70 seconds.
>
>
>BUFDRVR
>
>"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those
>bomb doors open if it harelips
>everyone on Bear Creek"
Is this the same as toss-bombing? Or is the B-52 capable of that attack
profile? Especially with a 1-2 Mt B-83 or one of the old B-53 10 Mt city-busters.


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[John]

Blair Maynard wrote:over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The

> most
> > > dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196 of
> our
> > > flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
> >
> > "Day into night"?
>
> New flare model, it absorbs light.

Ahh Haaa the Infamous "Darksucker"

http://webpages.marshall.edu/~hartwel1/humor/misc/darksucker_theory.html

[Blair Maynard]

No. The darksuckers are the older standard models. Using the same
vernacular, the new ones would be called "lightsuckers." But the theory is
the same. :)
"John" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Blair Maynard wrote:over there weren't nearly as entertaining. The
>
> > most
> > > > dramatic thing I did was turn day into night by putting out all 196
of
> > our
> > > > flares, well actually the EW did it, but damn it, it was my idea ;)
> > >
> > > "Day into night"?
> >
> > New flare model, it absorbs light.
>
> Ahh Haaa the Infamous "Darksucker"
>
> http://webpages.marshall.edu/~hartwel1/humor/misc/darksucker_theory.html
>
>
>