FAA Owner's survey

[Jim Stewart]

The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
fill out their aircraft owner's survey.

Does anyone have a strong opinion either
way as to why I should or should not do it?

[Denny]

> Does anyone have a strong opinion either
> way as to why I should or should not do it?

Don't ask... Don't tell...

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Jim Stewart wrote:
> The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
> fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>
> Does anyone have a strong opinion either
> way as to why I should or should not do it?

Kinda like voting though. If you don't voice your opinion when offered
the opportunity you sort of negate your right to bitch about stuff.

What sort of questions are they asking?

[JGalban via AviationKB.com]

Jim Stewart wrote:
>The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
>fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>
>Does anyone have a strong opinion either
>way as to why I should or should not do it?

I'd be interested to know what kind of info they want. That would
determine whether or not I'd respond to them. Curiously, I've been an
aircraft owner for over 18 yrs. and I've never seen this survey.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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[Robert M. Gary]

On Jun 12, 9:51*am, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
> Jim Stewart wrote:
> >The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
> >fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>
> >Does anyone have a strong opinion either
> >way as to why I should or should not do it?
>
> * I'd be interested to know what kind of info they want. * That would
> determine whether or not I'd respond to them. * *Curiously, I've been an
> aircraft owner for over 18 yrs. and I've never seen this survey.

Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
of controllers.

-Robert

[Ross]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On Jun 12, 9:51 am, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
>> Jim Stewart wrote:
>>> The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
>>> fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>>> Does anyone have a strong opinion either
>>> way as to why I should or should not do it?
>> I'd be interested to know what kind of info they want. That would
>> determine whether or not I'd respond to them. Curiously, I've been an
>> aircraft owner for over 18 yrs. and I've never seen this survey.
>
> Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
> VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
> staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
> of controllers.
>
> -Robert

You know, I have had my plane since '96 and I do not remember getting a
survey.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[JGalban via AviationKB.com]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
>
>Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
>VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
>staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
>of controllers.
>

Maybe the reason is that I'm not instrument rated. All my hours are VFR.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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[Bob Noel]

In article <8594e7d6209f4@uwe>, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe>
wrote:

> >Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
> >VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
> >staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
> >of controllers.
> >
>
> Maybe the reason is that I'm not instrument rated. All my hours are VFR.

I'm instrument rated (since 1990), had my airplane since 1994, and have
never seen an owner's survey from the FAA.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

[rotor&wing]

Jim Stewart wrote:[color=blue][i]


What sort of questions are they asking?

They want all sorts of personal info that they have no legal right to know.

Throw it in the garbage.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jun 12, 2:46*pm, Bob Noel >
wrote:

> > * Maybe the reason is that I'm not instrument rated. *All my hours are VFR.
>
> I'm instrument rated (since 1990), had my airplane since 1994, and have
> never seen an owner's survey from the FAA.

Maybe a random sample???? I wonder if it could be because I
incorporated my plane. I know the local FBO says they get the form for
each of their planes.

-Robert

[Newps]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On Jun 12, 9:51 am, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
>> Jim Stewart wrote:
>>> The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
>>> fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>>> Does anyone have a strong opinion either
>>> way as to why I should or should not do it?
>> I'd be interested to know what kind of info they want. That would
>> determine whether or not I'd respond to them. Curiously, I've been an
>> aircraft owner for over 18 yrs. and I've never seen this survey.
>
> Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
> VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
> staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
> of controllers.



The FAA doesn't need your forged survey numbers to figure out where to
put controllers. They just need to look at their own traffic count
numbers from every facility.

[Denny]

The thing you have to keep in mind about bureaucrats is that they are
not there to help you, or to promote GA... Their purpose is to make
themselves look good on their next performance review... If they can
find some obscure regulation to bust your chops that is a feather in
their cap for the next pay raise or promotion... Stick your head in
the lions mouth if you are looking for a thrill - but I will stay low
and keep quiet...

denny

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

rotor&amp;wing wrote:
> Gig 601Xl Builder;639432 Wrote:
>> Jim Stewart wrote:[color=blue][i]
>>
>>
>> What sort of questions are they asking?
>
> They want all sorts of personal info that they have no legal right to
> know.
>
> Throw it in the garbage.
>
>
>
>

Legal right to know? Jeez.

A little Googleing came up with the online version of the "2007 General
Aviation Survey" and this may or may not be the same survey in question
but the FAQ clearly states that the participants names are not
associated with the answers.

http://pa-web.colo.supranet.net/start/paconsult2/FAALFFAQ.HTM

What does the FAA do with this detailed information?
The information collected in this survey helps the FAA to understand
more about general aviation activities, assess the impact of general
aviation activities on the National Airspace System, and determine the
need for increased traffic facilities and services. Federal, state and
local governments; general aviation associations; and private industry
and individuals use the summary data for safety analyses, planning,
forecasting, and research and development. For example, more accurate
information on hours flown and aircraft activity lead to more accurate
safety measures, which in turn impacts general aviation insurance rates.

Will my name be associated with my survey responses?
ABSOLUTELY NOT! PA Consulting Group will keep your survey responses
strictly confidential. Names of individuals are never associated with
responses.

Why was I selected for this survey?
Your name was randomly selected from the Civil Aviation Registry. The
Registry shows you as a registrant of this aircraft as of December 31,
2007.

In order to better understand general aviation activity of high-use
groups, several groups were sampled at 100% for the 2007 survey. These
groups include: light-sport aircraft, aircraft that are 5 years old or
newer, FAR Part 135 aircraft, rotorcraft, turbine aircraft, and
Alaska-based aircraft.

What if I completed a survey last year?
Even if you were sampled last year, it is very important that you
respond to this survey this year. Owners/operators of multiple aircraft
represent a key portion of the general aviation population. The
newly-designed summary form is aimed at reducing the burden of reporting
for multiple aircraft, thus encouraging maximum participation.

What should I do if I have a question about how to fill out the survey
or have a question we haven't answered?
Please call Theresa Tennant of PA Consulting Group at 1-800-826-1797.

[Gig 601Xl Builder]

Newps wrote:
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
>> On Jun 12, 9:51 am, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote:
>>> Jim Stewart wrote:
>>>> The FAA has been nagging me repeatedly to
>>>> fill out their aircraft owner's survey.
>>>> Does anyone have a strong opinion either
>>>> way as to why I should or should not do it?
>>> I'd be interested to know what kind of info they want. That would
>>> determine whether or not I'd respond to them. Curiously, I've been an
>>> aircraft owner for over 18 yrs. and I've never seen this survey.
>>
>> Seriously? I get them every 3 years. They want to know how many hours
>> VFR vs. IFR you fly, etc. I think its so they can determine ATC
>> staffing. Most people inflate their IFR hours so we don't find a lack
>> of controllers.
>
>
>
> The FAA doesn't need your forged survey numbers to figure out where to
> put controllers. They just need to look at their own traffic count
> numbers from every facility.

Well Newps it looks like they do...

http://pa-web.colo.supranet.net/start/paconsult2/FAALFFAQ.HTM

What does the FAA do with this detailed information?
The information collected in this survey helps the FAA to understand
more about general aviation activities, assess the impact of general
aviation activities on the National Airspace System, and determine the
need for increased traffic facilities and services. Federal, state and
local governments; general aviation associations; and private industry
and individuals use the summary data for safety analyses, planning,
forecasting, and research and development. For example, more accurate
information on hours flown and aircraft activity lead to more accurate
safety measures, which in turn impacts general aviation insurance rates