Amodel Antonov An-22 [Archive]

Myedniy Vsadnik

March 1st 04, 06:13 PM

Ken Duffey > wrote in message >...
> It's finished !!
>
> My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
> 'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>
> Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

Molodyets!

Big respect for finishing that monster, Ken. Mine is still in the
unbuilt pile; I keep approaching it with trembling hands then my nerve
fails and I pull another 1/48 Hasgawa or Tamiya out the pile!

--
Vsadnik

Krztalizer

March 1st 04, 11:36 PM

That is the single most impressive aircraft I have ever seen. Entire USN
flightcrew: "Holy S___! Look at the SIZE of that!"

G

[email protected]

March 2nd 04, 01:57 AM

(Krztalizer) wrote:

>That is the single most impressive aircraft I have ever seen. Entire USN
>flightcrew: "Holy S___! Look at the SIZE of that!"
>
>G

About all I can say (in a very awed voice) is "My God"!!
--

-Gord.

Krztalizer

March 2nd 04, 03:19 AM

>
>>That is the single most impressive aircraft I have ever seen. Entire USN
>>flightcrew: "Holy S___! Look at the SIZE of that!"
>>
>>G
>
>About all I can say (in a very awed voice) is "My God"!!
>--

Have you seen one, Gord? That was a _giant_. Our fighters escorted it near the
coast of Arabia and our a/c looked like hummingbirds chasing a dragon. The
crew drove it around the sky in big sweeping turns to check out our ship, then
continued on its way (most likely from India to Ethiopia or somewhere close).
Mid 1980, sometime.

v/r
Gordon

[email protected]

March 2nd 04, 03:40 AM

(Krztalizer) wrote:

>>
>>>That is the single most impressive aircraft I have ever seen. Entire USN
>>>flightcrew: "Holy S___! Look at the SIZE of that!"
>>>
>>>G
>>
>>About all I can say (in a very awed voice) is "My God"!!
>>--
>
>Have you seen one, Gord? That was a _giant_. Our fighters escorted it near the
>coast of Arabia and our a/c looked like hummingbirds chasing a dragon. The
>crew drove it around the sky in big sweeping turns to check out our ship, then
>continued on its way (most likely from India to Ethiopia or somewhere close).
>Mid 1980, sometime.
>
>v/r
>Gordon

No, haven't, and that was well after my ASW years too (69 to late
70's)
--

-Gord.

Andreas Maurer

March 2nd 04, 03:42 AM

On 02 Mar 2004 03:19:40 GMT, (Krztalizer) wrote:

>
>coast of Arabia and our a/c looked like hummingbirds chasing a dragon. The
>crew drove it around the sky in big sweeping turns to check out our ship, then
>continued on its way (most likely from India to Ethiopia or somewhere close).

Even more impressive are the STOL capabilities of the An-22. One
landed on a rather short runway close to where I live when it was
delivered to an aviation museum. The deep rumble of the
counter-rotating engines is fascinating.

It needed less than half of the 3.000 ft runway to come to a stop.
Requred landing run about 1.200 ft. Impressive.

Bye
Andreas

William L. Powell

March 2nd 04, 04:55 AM

Ken,
Great Job.... No Kidding. I salute you...

William

Ken Duffey wrote:
> It's finished !!
>
> My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
> 'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>
> Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>
>

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Krztalizer

March 2nd 04, 08:16 AM

Nicely done, Ken.

G

Jim Doyle

March 2nd 04, 01:11 PM

"Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
...
> It's finished !!
>
> My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
> 'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>
> Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>
>

Great build Ken!
Makes all of my models look so laughable - now I feel inadequate!!
Jim Doyle

gary pearson

March 3rd 04, 03:43 AM

I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.
"Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
...
> It's finished !!
>
> My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
> 'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>
> Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>
>

Krztalizer

March 3rd 04, 04:09 AM

>I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
>one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
>last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
>Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.

....but horrible in a _really_cool_ way!

William H. Shuey

March 3rd 04, 06:18 AM

gary pearson wrote:
>
> I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
> one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
> last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
> Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.

You mean it is worse than a C-130???

Bill Shuey

Edwin Ross Quantrall

March 3rd 04, 06:39 AM

Jim Doyle wrote:

> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>It's finished !!
>>
>>My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
>>'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>>
>>Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>>Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
>>Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>
> Great build Ken!
> Makes all of my models look so laughable - now I feel inadequate!!

*Insert generic "Well, you need to get a big Cock too!" joke here* :-P

--
Edwin

(Remove "DIESPAMDIE!")

"Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can trust to be dishonest...
Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you
can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly stupid."
- Captain Jack Sparrow (Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of
the Black Pearl)

Ron

March 3rd 04, 06:49 AM

Other than open cockpit oil blowers *IS* anything worse than a C-130?

"William H. Shuey" wrote:

> You mean it is worse than a C-130???
>
> Bill Shuey

Myedniy Vsadnik

March 3rd 04, 01:10 PM

Ron > wrote in message >...
> Other than open cockpit oil blowers *IS* anything worse than a C-130?

An-12 sets the discomfort standard in my experience.

It's the only aircraft I've ever seen with bilge in the bottom like a ship.

--
Vsadnik

[email protected]

March 3rd 04, 02:33 PM

"gary pearson" > wrote:

>I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
>one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
>last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
>Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.

Something like the situation with the Lancaster then. People
praise it and get all mushy and romantic about it when in reality
it's an awful aircraft, Dangerous as hell too. Killed a lot of
friends and acquaintances of mine.
--

-Gord.

Bill Banaszak

March 4th 04, 01:38 AM

Edwin Ross Quantrall wrote:
>
> Jim Doyle wrote:
>
> > "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>It's finished !!
> >>
> >>My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
> >>'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
> >>
> >>Complete with photos of the finished model !!
> >>
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> >>Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> >>Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Great build Ken!
> > Makes all of my models look so laughable - now I feel inadequate!!
>
> *Insert generic "Well, you need to get a big Cock too!" joke here* :-P
>
> --
> Edwin

Fibreglas, Nature's supplement.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

Edwin Ross Quantrall

March 4th 04, 06:47 AM

Bill Banaszak wrote:

> Edwin Ross Quantrall wrote:
>
>>Jim Doyle wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's finished !!
>>>>
>>>>My build report on the Amodel 1:72 scale model of the Antonov An-22
>>>>'Antei' is at :- http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/modl_an-22.html
>>>>
>>>>Complete with photos of the finished model !!
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>>>>Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
>>>>Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Great build Ken!
>>>Makes all of my models look so laughable - now I feel inadequate!!
>>>
>>*Insert generic "Well, you need to get a big Cock too!" joke here* :-P
>>
>>--
>>Edwin
>>
>
>
> Fibreglas, Nature's supplement.
>

ROFL!

--
Edwin

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"Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can trust to be dishonest...
Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you
can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly stupid."
- Captain Jack Sparrow (Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of
the Black Pearl)

gary pearson

March 7th 04, 06:36 PM

The loudest APU I have ever heard, to the point it is very very painful.
Very little sound proofing, multiple oil leaks, a collapsed undercarraige
and 12 hours sitting in a seat that had a sharp metal edge at a height that
was just in the middle of my back. Trust me a C130 has nothing on this and
thats without talking about the toilet. The crew welded the collapsed leg in
the down position and flew it from Sudan to Kiev like that. I on the other
hand flew KLM back to Europe.

The only cool thing about this aircraft is the bubble window on to of the
fuselage. You can stick your head in the bubble and get a great view.

"Myedniy Vsadnik" > wrote in message
om...
> Ron > wrote in message
>...
> > Other than open cockpit oil blowers *IS* anything worse than a C-130?
>
> An-12 sets the discomfort standard in my experience.
>
> It's the only aircraft I've ever seen with bilge in the bottom like a
ship.
>
> --
> Vsadnik

rnf2

March 11th 04, 01:58 AM

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:33:54 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote:

>"gary pearson" > wrote:
>
>>I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
>>one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
>>last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
>>Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.
>
>Something like the situation with the Lancaster then. People
>praise it and get all mushy and romantic about it when in reality
>it's an awful aircraft, Dangerous as hell too. Killed a lot of
>friends and acquaintances of mine.

Hmm... A great uncle of mine died as navigator/gunner in a Lancaster
in '44... I don't think it was the lancaster that was at fault tho...
Personally I reckon it was the german on their tail

[email protected]

March 11th 04, 05:40 AM

rnf2 > wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:33:54 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
>wrote:
>
>>"gary pearson" > wrote:
>>
>>>I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say it is
>>>one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown on. My
>>>last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it again.
>>>Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.
>>
>>Something like the situation with the Lancaster then. People
>>praise it and get all mushy and romantic about it when in reality
>>it's an awful aircraft, Dangerous as hell too. Killed a lot of
>>friends and acquaintances of mine.
>
>Hmm... A great uncle of mine died as navigator/gunner in a Lancaster
>in '44... I don't think it was the lancaster that was at fault tho...
>Personally I reckon it was the german on their tail

Sorry about your great uncle there, and it's likely true as you
say but the a/c is inherently quite dangerous also. Poor aileron
control, poor placement of the main landing gear, too soft MLG
struts, poor brakes, poor dead engine detection possibilities,
etc.
--

-Gord.

Rob Grinberg

March 12th 04, 05:06 AM

Gord,
So it was kinda like *most* WW2 military aircraft, then. And most modern
ones. And ALL WW1 a/c. And most of the armour that's been built over the
years (stick your head inside a tank sometime). And most soft-skin vehicles
(have a look at the seating in most military transport trucks in service,
even now). And ships and subs. It amazes me that more of the men in
military service weren't injured or killed by the machines they used, BEFORE
they got into combat and faced the enemy. Military equipment is made to do
a job, not to look good.

We won't even go into the pros and cons of the Lancaster. Suffice to say
that by the end of the war, it was carrying twice its original designed
bomb-load and doing it well enough for it to still be effective in its
assigned tasks.

People go all mushy over old things, especially if those things were part of
their formative years. WW2 was a BIG event in the lives of those who took
part and it happened to them in their youth, when they were becoming the
people we know as our parents and grandparents. I know I have a soft spot
for Matchbox models, even though they're mostly poor kits, but they remind
me of a time that was a lot simpler. So it is with the Lancaster - it's a
symbol of pride and determination to most, not just an aircraft . And most
pilots loved it.

RobG

Gord Beaman > wrote in message
...
> rnf2 > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:33:54 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
> >wrote:
> >
> >>"gary pearson" > wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've flown on this aircraft a few times and I think it is fair to say
it is
> >>>one of the most uncomfortable and noisiest aircraft I have ever flown
on. My
> >>>last flight on an AN22 was in 1996 and I swore never to get on it
again.
> >>>Nice model, horrible aircraft in reality.
> >>
> >>Something like the situation with the Lancaster then. People
> >>praise it and get all mushy and romantic about it when in reality
> >>it's an awful aircraft, Dangerous as hell too. Killed a lot of
> >>friends and acquaintances of mine.
> >
> >Hmm... A great uncle of mine died as navigator/gunner in a Lancaster
> >in '44... I don't think it was the lancaster that was at fault tho...
> >Personally I reckon it was the german on their tail
>
> Sorry about your great uncle there, and it's likely true as you
> say but the a/c is inherently quite dangerous also. Poor aileron
> control, poor placement of the main landing gear, too soft MLG
> struts, poor brakes, poor dead engine detection possibilities,
> etc.
> --
>
> -Gord.

Krztalizer

March 12th 04, 07:41 AM

>Military equipment is made to do
>a job, not to look good.

Then explain the Mosquito! :)

Keith Willshaw

March 12th 04, 09:07 AM

"Krztalizer" > wrote in message
...
> >Military equipment is made to do
> >a job, not to look good.
>
> Then explain the Mosquito! :)

or the Spitfire !

Keith

Jim Doyle

March 12th 04, 11:19 AM

"Krztalizer" > wrote in message
...
> >Military equipment is made to do
> >a job, not to look good.
>
> Then explain the Mosquito! :)

I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European street,
you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting around at a
much higher alt.

Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask the boy
racers in their Novas!

Stephen Harding

March 12th 04, 02:30 PM

Keith Willshaw wrote:

> "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>Military equipment is made to do
>>>a job, not to look good.
>>
>>Then explain the Mosquito! :)
>
> or the Spitfire !

Or the Brewster Buffalo...

Ooops! Wrong thread!

SMH

Krztalizer

March 12th 04, 07:04 PM

>>
>> Then explain the Mosquito! :)
>
>or the Spitfire !

My immediate second thought, Keith...

G

Giles Ayling

March 12th 04, 07:21 PM

"Jim Doyle" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Military equipment is made to do
> > >a job, not to look good.
> >
> > Then explain the Mosquito! :)
>
> I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European street,
> you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting around at
a
> much higher alt.
>
> Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask the boy
> racers in their Novas!
>
>
>
To me, you cant beat the beauty of the Hawker Hunter

I see a couple (non flying) everyday, and they still look great

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John

March 13th 04, 07:29 AM

"Giles Ayling" > wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Doyle" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >Military equipment is made to do
> > > >a job, not to look good.
> > >
> > > Then explain the Mosquito! :)
> >
> > I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European
street,
> > you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting around
at
> a
> > much higher alt.
> >
> > Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask the
boy
> > racers in their Novas!
> >
> >
> >
> To me, you cant beat the beauty of the Hawker Hunter
>
> I see a couple (non flying) everyday, and they still look great

Probably the most beautiful jet ever built. It's so Freudian...looks like
sex and death!

John
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M. H. Greaves

March 15th 04, 03:15 PM

The english electric lightning is a firm favourite of mine, when ever we
take the caravan to edinburgh we get the bus into the city, as the caravan
site is on a bus route and you can get a bus right at the gates, we got a
bus one time which took us near the Gyle, and Ferranti have lightning on
display outside on the grass, in a dramatic pose, i allways thought these
were small, but when youre up next to one, theyre alot bigger than once
thought, besides i've done alot of reading about this plane. I still wouldnt
put down the Hunter though, another quality british aircraft, aswell as the
victor, and the vulcan and TSR2 and... i could go on endlessly!
"John" > wrote in message
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> "Giles Ayling" > wrote in message
> ...
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> > "Jim Doyle" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >Military equipment is made to do
> > > > >a job, not to look good.
> > > >
> > > > Then explain the Mosquito! :)
> > >
> > > I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European
> street,
> > > you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting
around
> at
> > a
> > > much higher alt.
> > >
> > > Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask the
> boy
> > > racers in their Novas!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > To me, you cant beat the beauty of the Hawker Hunter
> >
> > I see a couple (non flying) everyday, and they still look great
>
> Probably the most beautiful jet ever built. It's so Freudian...looks like
> sex and death!
>
> John
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Giles Ayling

March 15th 04, 07:50 PM

Yeah I like the lightning - best thing is that there is one next door to one
of the Hunters

Brilliant

"M. H. Greaves" > wrote in message
...
> The english electric lightning is a firm favourite of mine, when ever we
> take the caravan to edinburgh we get the bus into the city, as the caravan
> site is on a bus route and you can get a bus right at the gates, we got a
> bus one time which took us near the Gyle, and Ferranti have lightning on
> display outside on the grass, in a dramatic pose, i allways thought these
> were small, but when youre up next to one, theyre alot bigger than once
> thought, besides i've done alot of reading about this plane. I still
wouldnt
> put down the Hunter though, another quality british aircraft, aswell as
the
> victor, and the vulcan and TSR2 and... i could go on endlessly!
> "John" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >
> > "Giles Ayling" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Jim Doyle" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > >Military equipment is made to do
> > > > > >a job, not to look good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then explain the Mosquito! :)
> > > >
> > > > I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European
> > street,
> > > > you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting
> around
> > at
> > > a
> > > > much higher alt.
> > > >
> > > > Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask
the
> > boy
> > > > racers in their Novas!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > To me, you cant beat the beauty of the Hawker Hunter
> > >
> > > I see a couple (non flying) everyday, and they still look great
> >
> > Probably the most beautiful jet ever built. It's so Freudian...looks
like
> > sex and death!
> >
> > John
> > >
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M. H. Greaves

March 15th 04, 11:53 PM

Have you ever been to RAF Cosford?
They have the original P1B, and lots of other interesting protos.
I'd recomend it!
"Giles Ayling" > wrote in message
...
> Yeah I like the lightning - best thing is that there is one next door to
one
> of the Hunters
>
> Brilliant
>
>
> "M. H. Greaves" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The english electric lightning is a firm favourite of mine, when ever we
> > take the caravan to edinburgh we get the bus into the city, as the
caravan
> > site is on a bus route and you can get a bus right at the gates, we got
a
> > bus one time which took us near the Gyle, and Ferranti have lightning
on
> > display outside on the grass, in a dramatic pose, i allways thought
these
> > were small, but when youre up next to one, theyre alot bigger than once
> > thought, besides i've done alot of reading about this plane. I still
> wouldnt
> > put down the Hunter though, another quality british aircraft, aswell as
> the
> > victor, and the vulcan and TSR2 and... i could go on endlessly!
> > "John" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > >
> > > "Giles Ayling" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Jim Doyle" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Krztalizer" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > >Military equipment is made to do
> > > > > > >a job, not to look good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then explain the Mosquito! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess when you're doing below-rooftop height down some European
> > > street,
> > > > > you've got to look the business! - or you may as well be farting
> > around
> > > at
> > > > a
> > > > > much higher alt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those invasion go-faster-stripes added streetwise style - just ask
> the
> > > boy
> > > > > racers in their Novas!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > To me, you cant beat the beauty of the Hawker Hunter
> > > >
> > > > I see a couple (non flying) everyday, and they still look great
> > >
> > > Probably the most beautiful jet ever built. It's so Freudian...looks
> like
> > > sex and death!
> > >
> > > John
> > > >
> > > >
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