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CodyDawg
August 21st 08, 07:24 PM
I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
Robert M. Gary
August 21st 08, 07:26 PM
On Aug 21, 11:24*am, "CodyDawg" > wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
> typical trips. *No more than $600k. *Any ideas?
Get a used Lear that is in decent shape. The check you write to
purchase any plane will be a small drop in the bucket of your cost of
ownership. You may want to look more at what you want to spend to fly
the plane. As a rule of thumb you can take whatever the plane would
rent for at an FBO and add 50%.
-Robert
CodyDawg
August 21st 08, 10:12 PM
An old Lear is nothing but a money pit. Looking for a new piston.
"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 11:24 am, "CodyDawg" > wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
> typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
Get a used Lear that is in decent shape. The check you write to
purchase any plane will be a small drop in the bucket of your cost of
ownership. You may want to look more at what you want to spend to fly
the plane. As a rule of thumb you can take whatever the plane would
rent for at an FBO and add 50%.
-Robert
JGalban via AviationKB.com
August 21st 08, 11:33 PM
CodyDawg wrote:
>I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
>typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
Any other requirements? Speed? Avionics? single? twin? fixed/retractable?
My ~$45K Cherokee will haul 4 adults 250 nm. in relative comfort. Most new
piston singles and twins (with the exception of Light Sport models) will fill
that requirement.
John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
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Kyle Boatright
August 22nd 08, 12:44 AM
"CodyDawg" > wrote in message
m...
> I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
> typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
With a 250 mile trip, speed would be less of a consideration than load
carrying ability.
With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed, and
they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great example for
1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your range.
Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a Cherokee
Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
CodyDawg
August 22nd 08, 01:32 AM
Thanks for the input - that's some good advice. Hadn't thought about Piper
as I have only flown Cessnas but it makes sense.
"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
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> "CodyDawg" > wrote in message
> m...
>> I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
>> typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
>
> With a 250 mile trip, speed would be less of a consideration than load
> carrying ability.
>
> With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed,
> and they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great
> example for 1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your
> range. Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a
> Cherokee Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
>
>
BT
August 22nd 08, 02:06 AM
A used Seneca IV or V
"CodyDawg" > wrote in message
m...
> I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
> typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
The Visitor
August 22nd 08, 10:17 PM
Just a consideration....
I like my III better. Mainly because of the useful load, 1500 and that
is with (70 lbs)air conditioning! The fives are really heavy.
BT wrote:
> A used Seneca IV or V
>
> "CodyDawg" > wrote in message
> m...
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>>I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
>>typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
>
>
>
Paul Tomblin
August 23rd 08, 02:54 AM
In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" > said:
>With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed, and
>they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great example for
>1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your range.
>Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a Cherokee
>Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
I loved our club's old Lance (which is basically a Cherokee 6 with
retractable gear) and I'm sorry we sold it. The best thing about it,
besides the huge amount of gear it would carry, is that it was so roomy.
With club seating, you could put four passengers in the back, put a cooler
between them, and they wouldn't bother you for the whole flight.
--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
When you need a helpline for breakfast cereals, it's about time to think
about tearing down civilisation and giving the ants a go.
-- Chris King
john smith
August 23rd 08, 04:56 AM
Paul, how do you like your OSH purchase?
BT
August 23rd 08, 06:14 AM
a III would work nicely..
"The Visitor" > wrote in message
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> Just a consideration....
> I like my III better. Mainly because of the useful load, 1500 and that is
> with (70 lbs)air conditioning! The fives are really heavy.
>
>
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>
> BT wrote:
>> A used Seneca IV or V
>>
>> "CodyDawg" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>
>>>I'm in the market for a new airplane that can carry 4 adults for 250nm
>>>typical trips. No more than $600k. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
August 23rd 08, 11:25 PM
> In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" > said:
>>With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed,
>>and
>>they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great example
>>for
>>1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your range.
>>Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a Cherokee
>>Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
>
I would have thought that a Maule would be the first choice.
http://www.mauleairinc.com/img/Clears_the_hangar_color.jpg
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CodyDawg
August 25th 08, 03:50 PM
Unless I'm missing something, the useful load on the MT-7-260 is only 804
lbs.
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com> wrote in message
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>> In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" > said:
>>>With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed,
>>>and
>>>they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great example
>>>for
>>>1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your range.
>>>Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a Cherokee
>>>Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
>>
>
> I would have thought that a Maule would be the first choice.
>
> http://www.mauleairinc.com/img/Clears_the_hangar_color.jpg
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.
Mike[_22_]
August 25th 08, 04:45 PM
"CodyDawg" > wrote in message
m...
> Unless I'm missing something, the useful load on the MT-7-260 is only 804
> lbs.
So perhaps you're a small guy and your 3 passengers are supermodels that
know how to pack light. Since you haven't articulated your mission very
well, speculation runs rampant.
Some of the blanks you might fill in are...
What is the max weight (passengers + baggage) you need to carry? Will you
only occassionally need to carry 4 adults? What part of the country do you
live in? What kind of places do you want to fly into? How much experience
do you have and in what type of aircraft? What kind of budget do you have
for maintenance, operation, storage and insurance? Will you be the sole
owner, or will the plane be shared? Do you plan on keeping the plane long
term, or is it just a stepping stone to a more advanced aircraft?
>
>
> "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk @See My Sig.com> wrote in message
> ...
>>> In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" > said:
>>>>With that in mind, why not a Piper 6X? Huge load carrier, decent speed,
>>>>and
>>>>they are still making 'em today. Should be able to get a great example
>>>>for
>>>>1/2 to 2/3 of your price range or a new example within your range.
>>>>Alternately, for 1/4 to 1/3 of your price range you could get a Cherokee
>>>>Six, which is essentially the same airplane, just older.
>>>
>>
>> I would have thought that a Maule would be the first choice.
>>
>> http://www.mauleairinc.com/img/Clears_the_hangar_color.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Geoff
>> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
>> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
>> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.
>
A Cessna 182 is a safe, production aircraft which should be able to
carry four adults, particularly if you only need 250nm worth of fuel
plus and additional hour's worth for safety....
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
August 25th 08, 10:54 PM
"CodyDawg" > wrote in message
m...
> Unless I'm missing something, the useful load on the MT-7-260 is only 804
> lbs.
If you need a lot more useful, then that limits your choices - A Cessna 185
is likely your best bet, but you can't get one "new" anymore.
--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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