Re: ~ CARTER SAVAGES BUSH & BLAIR: 'THEIR WAR BASED ON LIES! ~

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In article >, (Barry
Test) wrote:

> All Jimmy boy knows how to do is grow peanuts.
I take it you haven't been paying attention for a good few years then.
He's now a highly respected international figure who has been credited
with pulling off some major diplomatic achievements.

He was a bit of a crap pres. though.

[Kevin Brooks]

> wrote in message
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> In article >, (Barry
> Test) wrote:
>
> > All Jimmy boy knows how to do is grow peanuts.
> I take it you haven't been paying attention for a good few years then.
> He's now a highly respected international figure who has been credited
> with pulling off some major diplomatic achievements.

And was also credited with sticking his nose into foreign affairs when his
participation had NOT been requested, or wanted (Cuba, Venezuela, Middle
East). His 1994 Korea (which apparently did have White House approval at the
time) visit has since been roecognized as being a fiasco--he played quite
neatly into the hands of the DPRK. Couple of interesting bits on his
diplomatic efforts:

www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/ rn20020720.shtml

www.fair.org/media-beat/940921.html


>
> He was a bit of a crap pres. though.

He needs to stick to "Habitat for Humanity", a worthy cause, and leave the
diplomacy to the folks elected to do the job. It is actually kind of sad
watching him periodically scurry around the world looking for the diplomatic
limelight in a vain attempt to rewrite his less-than-stellar legacy as
President. I am no Clinton fan, but he at least has had the grace to let the
succeeding administration do its job without excessive interference.

Brooks

[Matt Wiser]

Why do you think we threw him out of the White House after four years? He
was too nice to be President. Secretary of State, maybe, but not President.




"Barry Test" > wrote:
>All Jimmy boy knows how to do is grow peanuts.
>"~ Pretzels R Us ~" >
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>> Carter Savages Blair and Bush: 'Their War
>was Based on Lies'
>> by Andrew Buncombe in Atlanta
>>
>> Jimmy Carter, the former US president, has
>strongly criticized George
>> Bush and Tony Blair for waging an unnecessary
>war to oust Saddam
>> Hussein based on "lies or misinterpretations".
>The 2002 Nobel peace
>> prize winner said Mr Blair had allowed his
>better judgment to be
>> swayed by Mr Bush's desire to finish a war
>that his father had
>> started.
>>
>> In an interview with The Independent on the
>first anniversary of the
>> American and British invasion of Iraq, Mr
>Carter, who was president
>> from 1977 to 1981, said the two leaders probably
>knew that many of the
>> claims being made about Saddam Hussein's weapons
>of mass destruction
>> were based on imperfect intelligence.
>>
>> He said: "There was no reason for us to become
>involved in Iraq
>> recently. That was a war based on lies and
>misinterpretations from
>> London and from Washington, claiming falsely
>that Saddam Hussein was
>> responsible for [the] 9/11 attacks, claiming
>falsely that Iraq had
>> weapons of mass destruction. And I think that
>President Bush and Prime
>> Minister Blair probably knew that many of
>the allegations were based
>> on uncertain intelligence ... a decision was
>made to go to war [then
>> people said] 'Let's find a reason to do so'."
>>
>> Before the war Mr Carter made clear his opposition
>to a unilateral
>> attack and said the US did not have the authority
>to create a "Pax
>> Americana". During his Nobel prize acceptance
>speech in December 2002
>> he warned of the danger of "uncontrollable
>violence" if countries
>> sought to resolve problems without United
>Nations input.
>>
>> His latest comments, made during an interview
>at the Carter Center in
>> Atlanta, are notable for their condemnation
>of the two serving
>> leaders. It is extremely rare for a former
>US president to criticize
>> an incumbent, or a British prime minister.
>Mr Carter's comments will
>> add to the mounting pressure on Mr Bush and
>Mr Blair.
>>
>> Mr Carter said he believed the momentum for
>the invasion came from
>> Washington and that many of Mr Bush's senior
>advisers had long ago
>> signaled their desire to remove Saddam by
>force. Once a decision had
>> been taken to go to war, every effort was
>made to find a reason for
>> doing do, he said.
>>
>> "I think the basic reason was made not in
>London but in Washington. I
>> think that Bush Jnr was inclined to finish
>a war that his father had
>> precipitated against Iraq. I think it was
>that commitment of Bush that
>> prevailed over, I think, the better judgment
>of Tony Blair and Tony
>> Blair became an enthusiastic supporter of
>the Bush policy".
>>
>> Mr Carter's criticisms coincided with damaging
>claims yesterday from a
>> former White House anti-terrorism co-ordinator.
>Richard Clarke said
>> that President Bush ignored the threat from
>al-Qaida before 11
>> September but in the immediate aftermath sought
>to hold Iraq
>> responsible, in defiance of senior intelligence
>advisers who told him
>> that Saddam had nothing to do with the conspiracy.
>>
>> With an eye to November's presidential elections,
>Mr Bush sought on
>> Friday to use the anniversary of the Iraq
>invasion to say that
>> differences between the US and opponents of
>the war belonged "to the
>> past".
>>
>> Speaking at the White House, he told about
>80 foreign ambassadors:
>> "There is no neutral ground in the fight between
>civilization and
>> terror. There can be no separate peace with
>the terrorist enemy."
>>
>> But in the US and Britain, and elsewhere,
>there is growing anger among
>> people who believe the war in Iraq was at
>best a deadly distraction
>> and at worst an impediment to the war against
>al-Qa'ida - diverting
>> resources and energy from countering those
>groups responsible for
>> attacks such as the train bombings in Madrid.
>>
>> Over the weekend millions of anti-war protesters
>poured on to the
>> streets of cities around the world to call
>for the withdrawal of
>> US-led troops from Iraq. It was estimated
>that in Rome - which saw the
>> biggest crowds - up to one million turned
>out.
>>
>> Mr Carter, 79, has recently published a novel.
>The Hornet's Nest is
>> centered on America's revolutionary war against
>the British. That
>> period had many lessons for the present day,
>Mr Carter said.
>>
>> © 2004 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0322-01.htm
>
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