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Eric Moore
March 28th 04, 08:21 AM
NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716

Jim Pflaum
March 28th 04, 04:44 PM
It's a shame that the X-43A's budget has been cutback. Somehow,
someway Congress needs to find funds to help NASA push its scramjet
project forward. From a public benefits standpoint, it seem to me
that we'll reap faster returns from NASA's scramjet program than we
will from its manned Mars program. Jim Pflaum - Raleigh, NC

(Eric Moore) wrote in message >...
> NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
>
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716

Tarver Engineering
March 28th 04, 05:32 PM
"Jim Pflaum" > wrote in message
om...
> It's a shame that the X-43A's budget has been cutback. Somehow,
> someway Congress needs to find funds to help NASA push its scramjet
> project forward. From a public benefits standpoint, it seem to me
> that we'll reap faster returns from NASA's scramjet program than we
> will from its manned Mars program. Jim Pflaum - Raleigh, NC

China is going to the moon and we have to be there when they get there.

> (Eric Moore) wrote in message
>...
> > NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
> >
> >
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716

Scott Ferrin
March 28th 04, 08:27 PM
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:32:30 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> wrote:

>
>"Jim Pflaum" > wrote in message
om...
>> It's a shame that the X-43A's budget has been cutback. Somehow,
>> someway Congress needs to find funds to help NASA push its scramjet
>> project forward. From a public benefits standpoint, it seem to me
>> that we'll reap faster returns from NASA's scramjet program than we
>> will from its manned Mars program. Jim Pflaum - Raleigh, NC
>
>China is going to the moon and we have to be there when they get there.
>
>> (Eric Moore) wrote in message
>...
>> > NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
>> >
>> >
>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716
>


The irony is they cancelled the X-43C mere days before this successful
flight. What about the X-43B? ISTR it's suppose to be quite a bit
bigger than either the A or the C. Was it also cancelled?

Jim Pflaum
March 29th 04, 04:39 AM
Scott Ferrin > wrote in message >...
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:32:30 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jim Pflaum" > wrote in message
> om...
> >> It's a shame that the X-43A's budget has been cutback. Somehow,
> >> someway Congress needs to find funds to help NASA push its scramjet
> >> project forward. From a public benefits standpoint, it seem to me
> >> that we'll reap faster returns from NASA's scramjet program than we
> >> will from its manned Mars program. Jim Pflaum - Raleigh, NC
> >
> >China is going to the moon and we have to be there when they get there.
> >
> >> (Eric Moore) wrote in message
> >...
> >> > NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
> >> >
> >> >
> >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716
> >
>
>
> The irony is they cancelled the X-43C mere days before this successful
> flight. What about the X-43B? ISTR it's suppose to be quite a bit
> bigger than either the A or the C. Was it also cancelled?

I don't think that NASA has actually cancelled the X-43 or ISTR
programs, but it's apparently doing some pretty heavy budget cutting
on the X-43 program. I'm just guessing, but it seems they maybe
shifting the X-43's program funds into the manned Mars program. If
that's what NASA's doing, I think it's making a big mistake. I don't
know about you, but I'd much rather take a 2 hour scramjet ride to
Paris than a 3 month ride to Mars.

Scott Ferrin
March 29th 04, 06:48 PM
On 28 Mar 2004 19:39:42 -0800, (Jim Pflaum)
wrote:

>Scott Ferrin > wrote in message >...
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:32:30 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jim Pflaum" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> >> It's a shame that the X-43A's budget has been cutback. Somehow,
>> >> someway Congress needs to find funds to help NASA push its scramjet
>> >> project forward. From a public benefits standpoint, it seem to me
>> >> that we'll reap faster returns from NASA's scramjet program than we
>> >> will from its manned Mars program. Jim Pflaum - Raleigh, NC
>> >
>> >China is going to the moon and we have to be there when they get there.
>> >
>> >> (Eric Moore) wrote in message
>> >...
>> >> > NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716
>> >
>>
>>
>> The irony is they cancelled the X-43C mere days before this successful
>> flight. What about the X-43B? ISTR it's suppose to be quite a bit
>> bigger than either the A or the C. Was it also cancelled?
>
>I don't think that NASA has actually cancelled the X-43 or ISTR
>programs, but it's apparently doing some pretty heavy budget cutting
>on the X-43 program. I'm just guessing, but it seems they maybe
>shifting the X-43's program funds into the manned Mars program. If
>that's what NASA's doing, I think it's making a big mistake. I don't
>know about you, but I'd much rather take a 2 hour scramjet ride to
>Paris than a 3 month ride to Mars.


I'm fairly certain the C got the axe. They didn't mention the B
though. Here's the pertinant info on the models:

"The X-43A, an unpiloted research craft mounted atop a modified
Pegasus booster rocket, was first flown in June 2001. During the
flight, an in-flight incident forced the mission to be aborted. NASA
has planned three X-43A flights; two more X-43A flight demonstrators,
built in early 2002, are being prepared for flight testing at NASA’s
Dryden Flight Research Center in Edwards, Calif. Fueled by hydrogen,
the X-43A is intended to achieve Mach 7 and possibly Mach 10, or
speeds of approximately 5,000 and 7,500 mph, respectively.

The X-43C demonstrator, powered by a scramjet engine developed by the
U.S. Air Force, is now in development. The X-43C is expected to
accelerate from Mach 5 to Mach 7, reaching a maximum potential speed
of about 5,000 mph. NASA will begin flight-testing the X-43C in 2008.

The largest of the Hyper-X test vehicles, the X-43B, could be
developed — and would fly — later this decade. Successful ground- and
flight-testing of various engine configurations aboard the X-43A and
X-43C will determine whether a rocket- or turbine-based combined-cycle
engine powers the X-43B.

All three X-43 flight demonstrator projects are managed by NASA’s
Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va."


It could be the C is duplicating other USAF efforts or is being
surpassed by them and is redundant anyway.

Tarver Engineering
March 29th 04, 09:28 PM
"Eric Moore" > wrote in message
om...
> NASA's X-43A Scramjet hit 5000mph. See:
>
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_sc/hypersonic_jet&cid=624&ncid=716

Congratulations to Dryden on doing one right. Earl's B-52 is way cool.

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