Are these Tomahawk Engines?

[Peter Strong]

Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
- well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...

Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?

see picture at:
http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG

Peter

[Dweezil Dwarftosser]

Peter Strong wrote:
>
> Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
> the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
> - well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...
>
> Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
> titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?
>
> see picture at:
> http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG

Dunno about the big chunks, but that gear you're holding
came out of the differential (Chevy pick-up, 1954-60...)

;-)

[Smartace11]

>Peter Strong wrote:
>>
>> Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
>> the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
>> - well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...
>>
>> Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
>> titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?
>>
>> see picture at:
>> http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG
>
>Dunno about the big chunks, but that gear you're holding
>came out of the differential (Chevy pick-up, 1954-60...)
>
>;-)
>


That "gear" is a compressor rotor out of a cruise missile engine, quite
possibly a Tomahawk (Williams International F107 Turbofan). The other parts
are the engine cases and probably what is left of the turbine and the engine
accessories. The rotor is not Titanium. Most of the parts are a nickel steel
alloy.

[Scott Ferrin]

On 04 Apr 2004 22:11:22 GMT, (Smartace11) wrote:

>>Peter Strong wrote:
>>>
>>> Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
>>> the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
>>> - well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...
>>>
>>> Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
>>> titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?
>>>
>>> see picture at:
>>> http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG
>>
>>Dunno about the big chunks, but that gear you're holding
>>came out of the differential (Chevy pick-up, 1954-60...)
>>
>>;-)
>>
>
>
>That "gear" is a compressor rotor out of a cruise missile engine, quite
>possibly a Tomahawk (Williams International F107 Turbofan). The other parts
>are the engine cases and probably what is left of the turbine and the engine
>accessories. The rotor is not Titanium. Most of the parts are a nickel steel
>alloy.
>


How many munitions used over there have turbines? Tomahawk, SLAM,
Calcm. . . Any others?

[Keith Willshaw]

"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
...
> On 04 Apr 2004 22:11:22 GMT, (Smartace11) wrote:
>

>
> How many munitions used over there have turbines? Tomahawk, SLAM,
> Calcm. . . Any others?

StormShadow

Keith

[Peter Kemp]

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:51:34 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
> wrote:

>
>"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
...
>> On 04 Apr 2004 22:11:22 GMT, (Smartace11) wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> How many munitions used over there have turbines? Tomahawk, SLAM,
>> Calcm. . . Any others?
>
>StormShadow

TALD?
---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - drink faster

[Harry Andreas]

In article >,
(Smartace11) wrote:

> >Peter Strong wrote:
> >>
> >> Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
> >> the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
> >> - well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...
> >>
> >> Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
> >> titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?
> >>
> >> see picture at:
> >> http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG
> >
> >Dunno about the big chunks, but that gear you're holding
> >came out of the differential (Chevy pick-up, 1954-60...)
> >
> >;-)
> >
>
>
> That "gear" is a compressor rotor out of a cruise missile engine, quite
> possibly a Tomahawk (Williams International F107 Turbofan). The other parts
> are the engine cases and probably what is left of the turbine and the engine
> accessories. The rotor is not Titanium. Most of the parts are a nickel steel
> alloy.

The Allison 250 series have a compressor about the same size IIRC.
They are used extensively world-wide for helos.
It's been over 25 years though....

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Peter Strong]

(Harry Andreas) wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> (Smartace11) wrote:
>
> > >Peter Strong wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Finally back in a Liberal Democracy after an interesting trip through
> > >> the Middle East and Sudan with a few odd scraps of metal as souvenirs
> > >> - well, it was either that or a stuffed camel...
> > >>
> > >> Are these what I think they are and if so are they really made of
> > >> titanium (in which case I get the last laugh)?
> > >>
> > >> see picture at:
> > >> http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT0031a.JPG
> > >
> > >Dunno about the big chunks, but that gear you're holding
> > >came out of the differential (Chevy pick-up, 1954-60...)
> > >
> > >;-)
> > >
> >
> >
> > That "gear" is a compressor rotor out of a cruise missile engine, quite
> > possibly a Tomahawk (Williams International F107 Turbofan). The other parts
> > are the engine cases and probably what is left of the turbine and the engine
> > accessories. The rotor is not Titanium. Most of the parts are a nickel steel
> > alloy.
>
> The Allison 250 series have a compressor about the same size IIRC.
> They are used extensively world-wide for helos.
> It's been over 25 years though....

Thanks for all the info - these were at the Al Shifa pharmecutical
factory in Khartoum - Clinton hit it in 98 on suspicion that it was
producing WMDs - Osama was living just across town at that time. I
beleive they used Tomahawks, though I'm no missile expert. Now missile
SMUGGLER, maybe.... I wonder what my souvenir would fetch on Ebay....

Peter

[Thomas Schoene]

Peter Kemp wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:51:34 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 04 Apr 2004 22:11:22 GMT, (Smartace11) wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> How many munitions used over there have turbines? Tomahawk, SLAM,
>>> Calcm. . . Any others?
>>
>> StormShadow
>
> TALD?

TALD is a glider. ITALD is a turbojet, wiht the same engine as Tacit
Rainbow, allegedly.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/air_missiles/itald/IT
ALD.html



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[Peter Kemp]

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:26:28 GMT, "Thomas Schoene"
> wrote:

>Peter Kemp wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:51:34 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 04 Apr 2004 22:11:22 GMT, (Smartace11) wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many munitions used over there have turbines? Tomahawk, SLAM,
>>>> Calcm. . . Any others?
>>>
>>> StormShadow
>>
>> TALD?
>
>TALD is a glider. ITALD is a turbojet, wiht the same engine as Tacit
>Rainbow, allegedly.
>
>http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/air_missiles/itald/IT
>ALD.html

Probably wasn't a TALD engine then :-) I had assumed TALD was powered,
same as the upcoming MALD - my bad, thanks for the correction.

---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - drink faster