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November 5th 08, 09:43 PM
Ok this is a very long shot...

Anyone got a Salto Canopy stashed away?

Prefer US location but will look at worldwide.

Thanks

Al

Bob Kuykendall
November 5th 08, 10:25 PM
I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about what a
factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the market on
Salto canopies in this half of the globe.

Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's free-
blown replacement might suit you.

Thanks, Bob K.

JJ Sinclair
November 6th 08, 01:38 PM
Looks kind'a Libellish to me, bet Ray Poquette could do you a modified
(heat and re-work the rear), Libelle canopy. He has a mold for it. I
have mounted one of them, looked good.
JJ

Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about what a
> factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the market on
> Salto canopies in this half of the globe.
>
> Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's free-
> blown replacement might suit you.
>
> Thanks, Bob K.

Bob C[_2_]
November 7th 08, 04:00 AM
I was recently looking at having a new canopy made for my Salto so I
wouldn't have to destroy the original to do the jet engine conversion.
The Salto is probably one of the hardest canopies to make. It is very
long and narrow, with reverse curves (like a potato chip) at both ends. I
finally gave up and cut the original.

Best bet would be to pull a mold from a good one and see if Todd or Ray
could make one. I seriously doubt if you could make a Libelle canopy
fit.

There are some reasonably good photos of mine before, during and after the
extensive modification at http://www.vertigoairshows.com/progress.html

You might be able to use some of the photos.

Also, there is a new person handling the Salto parts and maintenance. If
you're interested, e-mail me and I'll give you the info.

Bob

At 13:38 06 November 2008, JJ Sinclair wrote:
>Looks kind'a Libellish to me, bet Ray Poquette could do you a modified
>(heat and re-work the rear), Libelle canopy. He has a mold for it. I
>have mounted one of them, looked good.
>JJ
>
>Bob Kuykendall wrote:
>> I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about what a
>> factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the market on
>> Salto canopies in this half of the globe.
>>
>> Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's
free-
>> blown replacement might suit you.
>>
>> Thanks, Bob K.
>

JJ Sinclair
November 7th 08, 01:44 PM
Very interesting page, Bob. What's the thrust on that puppy and what
kind of temp did you read at the tail? The thought of installing a jet
just a few feet from the vertical fin leaves me nervous. The V tail
solves that problem.
Thanks for sharing,
JJ
Bob C wrote:
> I was recently looking at having a new canopy made for my Salto so I
> wouldn't have to destroy the original to do the jet engine conversion.
> The Salto is probably one of the hardest canopies to make. It is very
> long and narrow, with reverse curves (like a potato chip) at both ends. I
> finally gave up and cut the original.
>
> Best bet would be to pull a mold from a good one and see if Todd or Ray
> could make one. I seriously doubt if you could make a Libelle canopy
> fit.
>
> There are some reasonably good photos of mine before, during and after the
> extensive modification at http://www.vertigoairshows.com/progress.html
>
> You might be able to use some of the photos.
>
> Also, there is a new person handling the Salto parts and maintenance. If
> you're interested, e-mail me and I'll give you the info.
>
> Bob
>
> At 13:38 06 November 2008, JJ Sinclair wrote:
> >Looks kind'a Libellish to me, bet Ray Poquette could do you a modified
> >(heat and re-work the rear), Libelle canopy. He has a mold for it. I
> >have mounted one of them, looked good.
> >JJ
> >
> >Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> >> I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about what a
> >> factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the market on
> >> Salto canopies in this half of the globe.
> >>
> >> Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's
> free-
> >> blown replacement might suit you.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Bob K.
> >

November 7th 08, 05:07 PM
On Nov 7, 5:44*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> Very interesting page, Bob. What's the thrust on that puppy and what
> kind of temp did you read at the tail? The thought of installing a jet
> just a few feet from the vertical fin leaves me nervous. The V tail
> solves that problem.
> Thanks for sharing,
> JJ
>
> Bob C wrote:
> > I was recently looking at having a new canopy made for my Salto so I
> > wouldn't have to destroy the original to do the jet engine conversion.
> > The Salto is probably one of the hardest canopies to make. *It is very
> > long and narrow, with reverse curves (like a potato chip) at both ends. *I
> > finally gave up and cut the original.
>
> > Best bet would be to pull a mold from a good one and see if Todd or Ray
> > could make one. *I seriously doubt if you could make a Libelle canopy
> > fit.
>
> > There are some reasonably good photos of mine before, during and after the
> > extensive modification athttp://www.vertigoairshows.com/progress.html
>
> > You might be able to use some of the photos.
>
> > Also, there is a new person handling the Salto parts and maintenance. *If
> > you're interested, e-mail me and I'll give you the info.
>
> > Bob
>
> > At 13:38 06 November 2008, JJ Sinclair wrote:
> > >Looks kind'a Libellish to me, bet Ray Poquette could do you a modified
> > >(heat and re-work the rear), Libelle canopy. He has a mold for it. I
> > >have mounted one of them, looked good.
> > >JJ
>
> > >Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> > >> I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about what a
> > >> factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the market on
> > >> Salto canopies in this half of the globe.
>
> > >> Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's
> > free-
> > >> blown replacement might suit you.
>
> > >> Thanks, Bob K.

Bob's project just increased dramatically the world wide demand for
Salto's ;)

Al

soarbooks
November 12th 08, 11:50 PM
On Nov 5, 4:43*pm, " >
wrote:
> Ok this is a very long shot...
>
> Anyone got a Salto Canopy stashed away?
>
> Prefer US location but will look at worldwide.
>
> Thanks
>
> Al

Some responders suggest that the Libelle canopy might be ...
persuaded ... to fit ...! but like Salto owner Bob Carlton I am quite
doubtful. I think the Libelle/Salto relationship has been a bit
overstated in some print publications over the last twenty or so
years, and that has led to to assumptions that they are twins; not
identical, but, nevertheless, fraternal twins. I am well familiar
with Libelles and Saltos (owning one) and find a remarkable number of
dis-similarities! They are more like siblings - related but very
different - than they are like fraternal twins, IMHO.

OK, I am metaphor-ed out....

Safe soaring to all,
Bob Wander
-End

Bob C[_2_]
November 21st 08, 02:45 AM
Thrust is 225 lbs. Tail temps were below 140 on a 95 degree day. She's a
rocket ship for sure!

Bob

At 17:07 07 November 2008, wrote:
>On Nov 7, 5:44=A0am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
>> Very interesting page, Bob. What's the thrust on that puppy and what
>> kind of temp did you read at the tail? The thought of installing a jet
>> just a few feet from the vertical fin leaves me nervous. The V tail
>> solves that problem.
>> Thanks for sharing,
>> JJ
>>
>> Bob C wrote:
>> > I was recently looking at having a new canopy made for my Salto so I
>> > wouldn't have to destroy the original to do the jet engine
conversion.
>> > The Salto is probably one of the hardest canopies to make. =A0It is
>ver=
>y
>> > long and narrow, with reverse curves (like a potato chip) at both
>ends.=
> =A0I
>> > finally gave up and cut the original.
>>
>> > Best bet would be to pull a mold from a good one and see if Todd or
>Ray
>> > could make one. =A0I seriously doubt if you could make a Libelle
>canopy
>> > fit.
>>
>> > There are some reasonably good photos of mine before, during and
after
>=
>the
>> > extensive modification
athttp://www.vertigoairshows.com/progress.html
>>
>> > You might be able to use some of the photos.
>>
>> > Also, there is a new person handling the Salto parts and
maintenance.
>=
>=A0If
>> > you're interested, e-mail me and I'll give you the info.
>>
>> > Bob
>>
>> > At 13:38 06 November 2008, JJ Sinclair wrote:
>> > >Looks kind'a Libellish to me, bet Ray Poquette could do you a
>modified
>> > >(heat and re-work the rear), Libelle canopy. He has a mold for it.
I
>> > >have mounted one of them, looked good.
>> > >JJ
>>
>> > >Bob Kuykendall wrote:
>> > >> I can have tooling made and get you a first article for about
what
>a
>> > >> factory replacement will cost. Thereafter you can corner the
market
>=
>on
>> > >> Salto canopies in this half of the globe.
>>
>> > >> Or if your standards are somewhat on the practical side a Todd's
>> > free-
>> > >> blown replacement might suit you.
>>
>> > >> Thanks, Bob K.
>
>Bob's project just increased dramatically the world wide demand for
>Salto's ;)
>
>Al
>

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