need help looking at website :)

[Cub Driver]

I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Thanks!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[Guy Alcala]

Cub Driver wrote:

> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Neither: the Netscape broken image symbol for the pictures, plus all the
text, links etc. Netscape Communicator 4.76 (as you can see, I don't
exactly keep my software updated to the latest version).

Guy

[James Hart]

Cub Driver wrote:
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Yup, same here, no images.

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk

[Ed Rasimus]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:53:40 +0200, "Emmanuel Gustin"
> wrote:

>"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
>> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
>Images.
>
>Using IE6.
>
>Emmanuel
>
Red X's here, also using IE 6.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

[Thomas Schoene]

Cub Driver wrote:
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Very odd.

I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture on
a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in via
Earthlink.

Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.

--
Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when
wrong to be put right." - Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

[David Hartung]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Xs

[John Carrier]

Log on to the site, disable your firewall, and refresh the screen. For some
reason firewalls will decide certain images are intrusions. If this trick
works, you might try to tweak the firewall.

R / John


"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
> Thanks!
>
> all the best -- Dan Ford
> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
> The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
> Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[Andreas Parsch]

Thomas Schoene wrote:

> Cub Driver wrote:
>> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>>
>> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
>> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
>> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
>> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
>> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>>
>> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
> Very odd.
>
> I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
> some work.**I*right*click*on*the*picture's*space,*show* its*properties,*and
> copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
> http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ).**That*takes*me*to*the*picture*
> on
> a blank page all by itself.**If*I*then*go*back*to*the*whole*page,*the
> picture is visible in its proper place.**That's*using*IE6*and*coming*in
> via Earthlink.

Exactly the same here with Mozilla 1.6 via an ISP in Germany.

>
> Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.

The webserver at 65.108.100.165 seems to have trouble with relative local
image URLs, like the "plain" filenames (i.e. without directory path and/or
"http://..." prefix) of the images. When you pass the full URL to the
server it works. If you then return to the HTML page, the browser get the
JPG/GIF from its cache (if you "refresh" the page, the photos are gone
again, because a refresh ignores the cache).

Anyway, a look at the webserver's access log should reveal which URL it gets
to "see" when the images are to be loaded and which HTTP code is returned
(not necessarily a 404). This should give some hint at the nature of the
problem (almost certainly some kind of mis-configuration of the webserver -
I think some of these have lots of strange options regarding what they
"hide" or not).

Regards
Andreas

[Tex Houston]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215

No images, IE6.

Tex

[Pete]

"Thomas Schoene" > wrote

> Very odd.
>
> I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
> some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
> copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
> http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture
on
> a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
> picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in
via
> Earthlink.
>
> Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.

I have exactly the same. Opera 6 (masq'ing as IE). Right click on the blank
space/Show Image...there it is.

Seems to be a prob with the relative addressing. What webserver is this
running on?

Pete

[Dave Kearton]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
|
| I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
| browsers at 65.108.100.215
|
| This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
| there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
| be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
| I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
| perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
|
| So what do you see? Images or red X's?
|
| Thanks!



Images and a great site.


--


Cheers


Dave Kearton

[Mark and Kim Smith]

No problems with Netscape 7.1.

Cub Driver wrote:

>I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
>This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
>there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
>be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
>I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
>perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
>So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
>Thanks!
>
>all the best -- Dan Ford
>email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
>The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
>Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org
>
>

[Alan Minyard]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:33:31 -0400, Cub Driver > wrote:

>65.108.100.215

I saw everything that I was supposed to, no "X"s or any other problems.
I use Netscape 7.4, if that helps.

Al Minyard

[Peter Stickney]

In article >,
Cub Driver > writes:
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215

> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Looks fine from here, using
Netscape 4, Netscape 7, Mozilla, Galeon, and Opera.


--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

[Peter Stickney]

In article et>,
"Thomas Schoene" > writes:
> Cub Driver wrote:
>> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>>
>> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
>> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
>> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
>> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
>> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>>
>> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
> Very odd.
>
> I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
> some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
> copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
> http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture on
> a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
> picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in via
> Earthlink.
>
> Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.

Hmm. What that sounds like is a timeout problem. Whatever's handling
the pictures was giving a slow response, and either the Browser, or
the Web Server basically gave up waiting. When you loaded the picture
individually, it got cached (Which makes it sound like a server-side
problem) and your browser uses its own local copy to fill in.

They seam to have sorted it out now, though (17:30 Dan's Local Time).

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

[Thomas Schoene]

Andreas Parsch wrote:
> (almost certainly some kind of
> mis-configuration of the webserver - I think some of these have lots
> of strange options regarding what they "hide" or not).

Whatever it was, it seems to be sorted out. Now I get all the images,
including some that I didn't load into cache before.

--
Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when
wrong to be put right." - Senator Carl Schurz, 1872

[Keith Willshaw]

"James Hart" > wrote in message
...
> Cub Driver wrote:
> > I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> > browsers at 65.108.100.215
> >
> > This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> > there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> > be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> > I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> > perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
> >
> > So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
> Yup, same here, no images.
>

Works fine for me

IE 6 under Win XP

Keith

[Mike Williamson]

Get all the pictures, first try.

IE 6 through Earthlink.

[Mike Beede]

In article >, Cub Driver > wrote:

> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Images. I'm using Mozilla on Mac OS 10.3.

Mike Beede

[Jim Morris]

Images using IE6.

Great website


--
jim morris

[Mu]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:33:31 -0400, Cub Driver
> wrote:

>
>I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
>So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
>Thanks!
>

I see a nice site... with images.
I'm using Netscape 4.8 .

Greetz Mu

[[email protected]]

Cub Driver > wrote:

>I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>browsers at 65.108.100.215

Looks like you don't need much more help but here it is...

Good results with IE 6.0, Netsacpe 7.1 and Opera 7.23

No problems at all...quite normal.
--

-Gord.

[[email protected]]

Glenfiddich > wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:33:31 -0400, Cub Driver
> wrote:
>
>>I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>>browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
>>So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
>Nice images - using Mozilla.

Now that his problem is well surveyed how about some advice?

I have a huge problem with "Runtime errors" And this error
below...(403)

QUOTE:
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page
using the credentials you supplied.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or
phone number that may be listed on the download.microsoft.com
home page. You can click Search to look for information on the
Internet.

HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
Internet Explorer
UNQUOTE

This error is the result of this URL: (among many many others)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/3/c/73cc71c0-13d9-4274-8d9c-33d8a528a396/dxwebsetup.exe



I get this very often...I can usually get into the 'root' of
these URL's but if I try to get beyond the root then the above
error shows. I get the same type of error with Netscape 7.1, it
says "This object has been blocked". It's driving me nuts, I've
tried removing all anti-virus stuff, all firewalls for tests,
I've been playing for weeks with parameters, nothing helps...any
advice?


--

-Gord.

[Marc Reeve]

Ed Rasimus > wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:53:40 +0200, "Emmanuel Gustin"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
> >
> >Images.
> >
> >Using IE6.
> >
> >Emmanuel
> >
> Red X's here, also using IE 6.
>
Under Opera 6.03 and Mozilla 1.2.1, I got images.

IE 5.1.7 gave me red exes.

All these on a Macintosh, if it matters.
--
Marc Reeve
actual email address after removal of 4s & spaces is
c4m4r4a4m4a4n a4t c4r4u4z4i4o d4o4t c4o4m

[John Keeney]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?

I found zero red X's.

[Cub Driver]

I was hoist by my own .htaccess file! (Don't ask...)

Many thanks. I got the problem fixed yesterday afternoon.


>>Images.
>>
>>Using IE6.
>>
>>Emmanuel
>>
>Red X's here, also using IE 6.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[George Ruch]

Cub Driver > wrote:

>
>I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
>browsers at 65.108.100.215

[SNIP]

>So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Images. Mozilla 1.6
/------------------------------------------------------------\
| George Ruch |
| "Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?" |
\------------------------------------------------------------/

[Cub Driver]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:23:28 +0200, Andreas Parsch >
wrote:

>The webserver at 65.108.100.165 seems to have trouble with relative local
>image URLs, like the "plain" filenames (i.e. without directory path and/or
>"http://..." prefix) of the images.

Just so, Andreas. It is a mirror site (I'm changing hosts) and I
copied over everything, including the .htaccess file that blocks
people from hotlinking my images. Well, it turned out that the file of
course was written for the existing site, and it blocked the new one
as an interloper, even though the images were on the same site and in
the same directory.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[Dweezil Dwarftosser]

" wrote:
>

> I have a huge problem with "Runtime errors" And this error
> below...(403)
>
> QUOTE:
> You are not authorized to view this page
> You might not have permission to view this directory or page
> using the credentials you supplied.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
> please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or
> phone number that may be listed on the download.microsoft.com
> home page. You can click Search to look for information on the
> Internet.

It is very common these days among the mass-market servers
(MSN, AOL, RR, Geocities, Tripod, etc.) to disallow "remote loading"
of images. (It prevents "hijacking" someone else's images into
your page, for example.) Most often, they do this by checking
the "referer" webpage, which your browser sends during the HTTP
request. If it isn't inside the same hierarchy (MSN/owner webpage,
in this case) - it won't serve up images.

What we have here is a case where either:
- the "mirror" is trying to save disk space/bandwidth charges
by remote loading the images... OR
- the mirror's webpages are *exact* copies of the original,
and set the base webpage to MSN (instead of itself); the
mirror then denies serving up images because it appears
to be requested from a foreign base page: MSN, rather than
itself.

The coding is defective, and non-compliant with standards.
It doesn't matter if some very recent browsers (with massive
security holes) can overcome the defects.

The techno-yahoos will complain that everyone should upgrade
their browser to the latest-and-greatest "fault tolerant"
versions. Bull. If the website complied with the standards,
*no one* would experience difficulties with it.

[Richard]

Problems Displaying Images in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q181836

Web Accessories Functionality Turns Off Image Downloading
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?id=kb;en-us;Q223050

How Internet Explorer Cache Settings Affect Web Browsing
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?id=kb;en-us;Q263070

Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?id=kb;en-us;Q283807

Web Pages Display a Red "X" Instead of a Graphic
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q316545

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
> browsers at 65.108.100.215
>
> This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
> there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
> be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
> I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
> perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.
>
> So what do you see? Images or red X's?
>
> Thanks!
>
> all the best -- Dan Ford
> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
> The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
> Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[Jim]

I get pictures. IE6