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James Lerch
May 11th 04, 05:37 AM
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JStONGE123
May 11th 04, 08:09 AM
Ohh it makes me sick to watch it. Could be worse I guess.




The Durango 95 purred away real horrorshow. A nice warm vibratey feeling all
through your guttiwuts.

M. H. Greaves
May 11th 04, 09:30 AM
Its good the pilots of this day still know how to properly fly an a/c of
this type these days, but a shame that they don't have anyof those little
bogies they had during WWII just for this purpose; They'd lift it up by
crane and place one or two under it, so they could move the a/c away for
repair.
I have a video that says an a/c landed this way even in WWII was well far
from being a total loss, but I also read in an earlier post that the damage
isn't too bad and is repairable. Of course it'll need to be done from
scratch because during the war the repair shop boys had many scrapped
airframes to scrounge parts from!
regards, Mark.
"JStONGE123" > wrote in message
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> Ohh it makes me sick to watch it. Could be worse I guess.
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>
>
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> The Durango 95 purred away real horrorshow. A nice warm vibratey feeling
all
> through your guttiwuts.

ArtKramr
May 11th 04, 03:15 PM
>Subject: Re: B-17 landing gear calapse video
>From: "M. H. Greaves"
>Date: 5/11/04 1:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time

>know how to properly fly an a/c of
>this type these days, but a shame that they don't have anyof those little
>bogies they had during WWII just for this purpose; They'd lift it up by
>crane and place one or two under it, so they could move the a/c away for
>repair.

More than likely a pair of bulldozers would shove the plane off the runway to
allow the rest of the group to land. Remember many were short of fuel and more
may be coming in with wounded aboard. The crashed plane might well end up as a
bucket of spare parts. The mechanics watching this landing were already
lusting after those engines ready to pull them and mount them in war wearies
that needed them. When a plane crashes think of the mechanics watching as a
flight of vultures circling overhead counting the spare parts.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

M. H. Greaves
May 11th 04, 06:15 PM
Heh, heh, Yep that I could believe, but, any aircraft that knew their u/c
was kaput would land on grass wouldn't they; no-one expects their u/c to
fail do they?
I'm not doubting you Art, its just that I have seen the odd pic of bombers
where the u/c had collapsed or hadn't come down (or whatever!), they'd
lifted it by crane later, and lowered it onto a pair of small bogies to take
it away, course as you say, she may end up as a scrap yard queen anyway.
regards, mark.
"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: B-17 landing gear calapse video
> >From: "M. H. Greaves"
> >Date: 5/11/04 1:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>
> >know how to properly fly an a/c of
> >this type these days, but a shame that they don't have anyof those little
> >bogies they had during WWII just for this purpose; They'd lift it up by
> >crane and place one or two under it, so they could move the a/c away for
> >repair.
>
> More than likely a pair of bulldozers would shove the plane off the runway
to
> allow the rest of the group to land. Remember many were short of fuel and
more
> may be coming in with wounded aboard. The crashed plane might well end up
as a
> bucket of spare parts. The mechanics watching this landing were already
> lusting after those engines ready to pull them and mount them in war
wearies
> that needed them. When a plane crashes think of the mechanics watching as
a
> flight of vultures circling overhead counting the spare parts.
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

ArtKramr
May 11th 04, 06:34 PM
>Subject: Re: B-17 landing gear calapse video
>From: "M. H. Greaves"
>Date: 5/11/04 10:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time

>I'm not doubting you Art, its just that I have seen the odd pic of bombers
>where the u/c had collapsed or hadn't come down (or whatever!), they'd
>lifted it by crane later, and lowered it onto a pair of small bogies to take
>it away, course as you say, she ma

Yeah but you got an entire group coming back from a mission and this one ship
has the only runway closed. Wait for a slow lumbering crane to come out while
planes in the air run out of fuel? I don't think so. The bulldozers will have
that wreck out in the dirt at the speed of light.




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

M. H. Greaves
May 12th 04, 01:28 AM
Guess so!!
"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: B-17 landing gear calapse video
> >From: "M. H. Greaves"
> >Date: 5/11/04 10:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>
> >I'm not doubting you Art, its just that I have seen the odd pic of
bombers
> >where the u/c had collapsed or hadn't come down (or whatever!), they'd
> >lifted it by crane later, and lowered it onto a pair of small bogies to
take
> >it away, course as you say, she ma
>
> Yeah but you got an entire group coming back from a mission and this one
ship
> has the only runway closed. Wait for a slow lumbering crane to come out
while
> planes in the air run out of fuel? I don't think so. The bulldozers will
have
> that wreck out in the dirt at the speed of light.
>
>
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

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