Keith stands proud

[ArtKramr]

Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in stopping
and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they have
been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who fought
with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
steadfastness

..


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[robert arndt]

(ArtKramr) wrote in message >...
> Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in stopping
> and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
> ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
> failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they have
> been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who fought
> with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
> steadfastness
>

Next thing you'll be telling us is that the B-26 Marauder had
something to do about it!!!

Rob ;)
> .
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Keith Willshaw]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in
stopping
> and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
> ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
> failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they
have
> been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who
fought
> with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
> steadfastness
>

Thank you Art, its appreciated.

Keith




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[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Keith stands proud
>From: "Keith Willshaw"
>Date: 6/7/04 2:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >

>Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in
>stopping
>> and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
>> ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
>> failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they
>have
>> been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who
>fought
>> with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
>> steadfastness
>>
>
>Thank you Art, its appreciated.
>
>Keith
>
>
>

Those of us who were there appreciate British courage and heroism.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Alan Minyard]

On 06 Jun 2004 21:04:29 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

>Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in stopping
>and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
>ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
>failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they have
>been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who fought
>with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
>steadfastness
>
>.
>
>
>Arthur Kramer
>344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
>Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
>http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

As do those of us who served with them throughout the Cold War.

Al Minyard

[John Mullen]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in
stopping
> and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
> ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
> failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they
have
> been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who
fought
> with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
> steadfastness

Scotland, Wales and N Ireland were involved in that war as well you know!

John

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Keith stands proud
>From: "John Mullen"
>Date: 6/7/04 8:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
>> Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in
>stopping
>> and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
>> ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
>> failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they
>have
>> been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who
>fought
>> with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
>> steadfastness
>
>Scotland, Wales and N Ireland were involved in that war as well you know!
>
>John


Sorry. Should have said the UK. Once again mea culpa. But we Americans could
never figure out all that Brit stuff. Y'know, England, The British Isles, The
United Kingdom, Gashouse, Limey Land and all that stuff.





Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Cub Driver]

>
>Scotland, Wales and N Ireland were involved in that war as well you know!

Saying "England" when what is meant is "Britain" or (including the Six
Counties) "UK" is a habit that irritates me only slightly less than
saying "Nazi" when what is meant is "German".


all the best -- Dan Ford
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[John Mullen]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >Scotland, Wales and N Ireland were involved in that war as well you know!
>
> Saying "England" when what is meant is "Britain" or (including the Six
> Counties) "UK" is a habit that irritates me only slightly less than
> saying "Nazi" when what is meant is "German".

IKWYM.

As a Scot, I am used over the years to people from England, the US and
points beyond, confusing England and Britain. The Nazi/German one as well
(Hitler was a Nazi leader, the Bf 109 was a German plane). Soviet/Russian
used to get me, and it still annoys me to hear in accounts of say Vietnam,
about 'Communist MiGs' LOL

I try not to get too annoyed about it, but on some level cannot but be
annoyed if it is an unthinking habit rather than just a slip as in Art's
case.

It is a similar reflex perhaps to that by which any criticism, however
well-meant, of US actions, past or present (and especially if it comes from
a **furrner**) automatically makes you a Democrat, anti-American,
pro-terrorist troll to some of the less thinking-enabled US posters here.

John

[Steve]

On 06 Jun 2004 21:04:29 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

>Proud of the heroic performance of England in WW II and their part in stopping
>and defeating Germany on many fronts. In the end England was part of the
>ukltimate victory while Germany lay crushed and in smoking ruins. Total
>failures at war for a second time in the same century. And I think they have
>been taught a lesson they will never forget.. And all those of us who fought
>with England in WW II have the highest regard for their courage and
>steadfastness

Nice of you to say that Art. Certainly a refreshing change from the usual
grief that Britain gets on Usenet from across the pond. :-)

As someone from a younger generation I'd like to say that your (and everyone
elses) efforts back then are greatly appreciated. I'll certainly make sure
that my kids (if I ever get round to having any) will be made to appreciate
it too.


--
Steve.