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April 27th 09, 01:41 AM
My Thursday flight up to Ohio.

6 hours flight time compressed into two 8 minute videos.

First video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsb7wiCYsPY

is the leg from Madison MS KMBO to Bowling Green MS Flew through
some rain showers on this leg.

Second video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TYu9OJLmU4

is the leg from Bowling Green MS to Steubenville, OH. Other then an
"expected reroute" around a MOA, this trip was as uneventful as it
gets. Severe clear as it gets for this distance on this leg.

"Skinny runway" at 2G2 :-)))

nate_fl
April 27th 09, 11:54 PM
On Apr 26, 8:41*pm, " > wrote:
> My Thursday flight up to Ohio.
>
> 6 hours flight time compressed into two 8 minute videos.
>
> First videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsb7wiCYsPY
>
> is the leg from Madison MS KMBO to Bowling Green MS * Flew through
> some rain showers on this leg.
>
> Second videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TYu9OJLmU4
>
> is the leg from Bowling Green MS to Steubenville, OH. *Other then an
> "expected reroute" around a MOA, this trip was as uneventful as it
> gets. *Severe clear as it gets for this distance on this leg.
>
> "Skinny runway" at 2G2 :-)))

Always enjoy your vids, very informative for a wannabe IFR pilot.

BeechSundowner
April 28th 09, 01:13 AM
On Apr 27, 5:54*pm, nate_fl > wrote:

> Always enjoy your vids, very informative for a wannabe IFR pilot.

Thanks Nate! My return trip will be forthcoming.

Let me guess, cost is a factor in you being a "wannabee"?

nate_fl
April 28th 09, 01:20 AM
On Apr 27, 8:13*pm, BeechSundowner > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 5:54*pm, nate_fl > wrote:
>
> > Always enjoy your vids, very informative for a wannabe IFR pilot.
>
> Thanks Nate! *My return trip will be forthcoming.
>
> Let me guess, cost is a factor in you being a "wannabee"?

Cost, and time. I'm PP-ASEL and sailplane. I'm also a PhD student in
addition to having a full time job. If I weren't in school I could
swing it, but as is I will just have to peck away at it. I get a
little hood time here and there.

BeechSundowner
April 28th 09, 02:17 AM
On Apr 27, 7:20*pm, nate_fl > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 8:13*pm, BeechSundowner > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 27, 5:54*pm, nate_fl > wrote:
>
> > > Always enjoy your vids, very informative for a wannabe IFR pilot.
>
> > Thanks Nate! *My return trip will be forthcoming.
>
> > Let me guess, cost is a factor in you being a "wannabee"?
>
> Cost, and time. I'm PP-ASEL and sailplane. I'm also a PhD student in
> addition to having a full time job. If I weren't in school I could
> swing it, but as is I will just have to peck away at it. I get a
> little hood time here and there.

Yes, should have mentioned time :-) Painfully slow training at least
for me.

Do you have any videos of your sailplane experiences? You don't see
to many of those from the inside.

nate_fl
April 28th 09, 04:25 AM
On Apr 27, 9:17*pm, BeechSundowner > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 7:20*pm, nate_fl > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 27, 8:13*pm, BeechSundowner > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 5:54*pm, nate_fl > wrote:
>
> > > > Always enjoy your vids, very informative for a wannabe IFR pilot.
>
> > > Thanks Nate! *My return trip will be forthcoming.
>
> > > Let me guess, cost is a factor in you being a "wannabee"?
>
> > Cost, and time. I'm PP-ASEL and sailplane. I'm also a PhD student in
> > addition to having a full time job. If I weren't in school I could
> > swing it, but as is I will just have to peck away at it. I get a
> > little hood time here and there.
>
> Yes, should have mentioned time :-) *Painfully slow training at least
> for me.
>
> Do you have any videos of your sailplane experiences? *You don't see
> to many of those from the inside.

For the last two years I have done ride-alongs with some of the
resident experts during a sailplane competition. I will try to post
one of those to you. Otherwise, no. Soaring effectively is a thinking
man's game, and I don't have the spare capacity to shoot video AND
stay in lift.

Mike Adams[_2_]
April 28th 09, 06:04 PM
" > wrote:

> My Thursday flight up to Ohio.

Allen,

Your videos are always interesting and well done. I'm really impressed with the ease of use of the IFR
system in your part of the country. Out here in Arizona, it's much more difficult to get IFR practice due to
the numerous restricted areas and high MEA's.

I have one very minor nit-pick on your first video. This turned out to be completely inconsequential, but I
thought I would mention it anyway. Shortly after departure (1:55 into the video) ATC asked you your on
course heading and then cleared you to resume own nav to Bowling Green. Your read back was "cleared
direct to Bowling Green". "Resume own nav" and "cleared direct" are two different things. I looked on
Flightaware and it looks like your filed flight plan was direct, so maybe there's no difference. But I
suppose theoretically at least, that present position direct from the point where you were told "resume
own nav" could have been a slightly different course than the direct path between your departure and
destination. Did you do a present position Direct-to, or just intercept the original flight plan?

Again, thanks for posting these videos. There's been so little interesting discussion on these newsgroups
lately, that it's good to see them actually being used as intended!

Mike

BeechSundowner
April 28th 09, 11:50 PM
On Apr 28, 12:04*pm, Mike Adams > wrote:

Your read back was "cleared
> direct to Bowling Green". *"Resume own nav" and "cleared direct" are two different things. I looked on
> Flightaware and it looks like your filed flight plan was direct, so maybe there's no difference.

Mike, you are absolutely right. I didn't realize that I said this
until you pointed this out. I appreciate this kind of feedback! Yes,
you are sooo right, easy of the system here is simple compared to many
parts of the country! I call it the land of direct.

Listening to the audio you bring up, approach said resume own
navigation, direct Bowling Green, so I repeated what he said, resume
navigation, direct Bowling Green. (word cleared is not there)

Had he not said the word direct, I probably would have just left it at
resume own navigation.

*>Did you do a present position Direct-to, or just intercept the
original flight plan?

I learned from ATC, when they say direct, you go direct from your
current position and not to intercept the original course line. So I
hit drct bwg on the 430.

> Again, thanks for posting these videos. There's been so little interesting discussion on these newsgroups
> lately, that it's good to see them actually being used as intended!

Agree :-)))

3 more videos have been uploaded, will reply to my own original
message.

BeechSundowner
April 28th 09, 11:50 PM
Return trip from Ohio to MS with ATC COMS

9 hours of flight time compressed to three different videos. All the
videos pick up when I pick up my clearances to landing.

First video is 2G2 to KLEX http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfoVWXvADrY

Original destination was to be KBWG however headwinds of 50 knots made
BWG unreachable. Video includes my diversion request with center
Apparently this request wasn't passed on to KLEX approach. Very lucky
it didn't cause an traffic conflict on my course reversal when I was
instructed to procede on course! Video at the end includes me
requesting progressive taxi instructions with ground.

Second video is KLEX to KTUP.http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=Qd19Sl8yM8s

Arrived at KLEX, had to file new flight plans with FSS since KLEX FBO
didn't have a computer with internet access (only a WSI weather
briefing terminal)..First part of the video concentrates on the ground
operations and I put circles where I am on the airport diagram. Video
includes a report of a possible ELT activation

Third video is KTUP to KMBO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVXo54iWKjw

More inflight video in this video since there was more to see insofar
as clouds below me what little there was. Was getting light to
moderate chop at my original altitude so I requested higher in this
video.

Total flight time for April 24th was 9.1 hours.

BeechSundowner
April 28th 09, 11:52 PM
On Apr 27, 10:25*pm, nate_fl > wrote:

> For the last two years I have done ride-alongs with some of the
> resident experts during a sailplane competition. I will try to post
> one of those to you. Otherwise, no. Soaring effectively is a thinking
> man's game, and I don't have the spare capacity to shoot video AND
> stay in lift.

Fully understand. Flying the plane is the first and foremost.

Camera is always secondary in my flying, in IMC, camera stays on the
glareshield on anything other then stable level flight or is not even
on!

Mike Adams[_2_]
April 29th 09, 12:19 AM
BeechSundowner > wrote:

> Listening to the audio you bring up, approach said resume own
> navigation, direct Bowling Green, so I repeated what he said, resume
> navigation, direct Bowling Green. (word cleared is not there)

You're right, I didn't notice that at first. So, since he said "direct" I think you responded appropriately.

BeechSundowner
April 30th 09, 11:05 PM
"Cloudlights" of my recent MS to OH trip.

Short 2 1/2 minute video to music showing clouds seen during my trip
from MS to OH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAFNWB7GkxM

Ross
May 1st 09, 05:18 PM
BeechSundowner wrote:
> "Cloudlights" of my recent MS to OH trip.
>
> Short 2 1/2 minute video to music showing clouds seen during my trip
> from MS to OH.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAFNWB7GkxM

Oh, I like the days when I flew in and above the clouds. Such pretty
sights. Questions: How do you select the music you use. I can make the
slide shows / videos, but picking the "right" background music is
difficult and I have been in music in my past. Worked at my fathers
radio station as a DJ. Personal, what is you day job besides flying IFR
and making videos.

Keep up the good work.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold :(
KSWI

BeechSundowner
May 1st 09, 07:31 PM
On May 1, 11:18*am, Ross > wrote:

> Oh, I like the days when I flew in and above the clouds. Such pretty
> sights. Questions: How do you select the music you use. I can make the
> slide shows / videos, but picking the "right" background music is
> difficult and I have been in music in my past. Worked at my fathers
> radio station as a DJ. *Personal, what is you day job besides flying IFR
> and making videos.
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> --
>
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> Sold :(
> KSWI

Hey Ross,

I try to stick with instrumentals with clouds or aviation themed songs
for my music. In this video, I had a midi file of the Forest Gump
theme song so I converted it to a .mp3 file and inserted it in Windows
Movie Maker.

I work in IT as a contractual worker with software support, and also
give training on various IT issues. All of my moving making has been
self taught and perseverance. I retired from my former job at the
tender age of 46 two years ago, and now work Monday through Thursday,
with Friday being MY dedicated flying day.

Picked up a local IFR clearance today, went up today to the practice
area, requested a block altitude so I could weave in the canyons of
the clouds. Truly a privileged life we live!

Ross
May 4th 09, 05:48 PM
BeechSundowner wrote:
> On May 1, 11:18 am, Ross > wrote:
>
>> Oh, I like the days when I flew in and above the clouds. Such pretty
>> sights. Questions: How do you select the music you use. I can make the
>> slide shows / videos, but picking the "right" background music is
>> difficult and I have been in music in my past. Worked at my fathers
>> radio station as a DJ. Personal, what is you day job besides flying IFR
>> and making videos.
>>
>> Keep up the good work.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards, Ross
>> C-172F 180HP
>> Sold :(
>> KSWI
>
> Hey Ross,
>
> I try to stick with instrumentals with clouds or aviation themed songs
> for my music. In this video, I had a midi file of the Forest Gump
> theme song so I converted it to a .mp3 file and inserted it in Windows
> Movie Maker.
>
> I work in IT as a contractual worker with software support, and also
> give training on various IT issues. All of my moving making has been
> self taught and perseverance. I retired from my former job at the
> tender age of 46 two years ago, and now work Monday through Thursday,
> with Friday being MY dedicated flying day.
>
> Picked up a local IFR clearance today, went up today to the practice
> area, requested a block altitude so I could weave in the canyons of
> the clouds. Truly a privileged life we live!

I envy you. I think that is one of the 7 deadly sins, though. I have
lost my medical and still working though that. I sure am glad I got the
plane when I did, because you never know what the future will be like. I
have sold the plane so life changes. I enjoy your videos.

You have a nice work schedule. Congratulations.... And thanks for the
feedback.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold :(
KSWI

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