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WalterM140
June 23rd 04, 09:54 AM
St. Petersburg Times, November 10, 2000:

"State prosecutors are investigating whether a forged absentee ballot in
Escambia County was part of a broader voter-fraud scheme, as new reports of
voting irregularities, including intimidation of minority voters, continued to
surface around the state.

Investigators said they are looking into whether there was a plan to redirect
mailed ballots to someone who filled them out and forged the voter's signature.


Escambia County State Attorney Curtis Golden said the fraudulent ballot
contained the name and address of a fictitious witness and was postmarked from
Miami.

The ballot has not been opened, so it is impossible to determine whether it was
designed to help Gov. George W. Bush or Vice President Al Gore.

The investigation was prompted by a complaint from Todd Vinson, a law clerk in
Miami who is a registered Pensacola voter.

Vinson had requested an absentee ballot from Escambia County but it didn't
arrive. He requested a second ballot, but that one never arrived either.
Supervisor of Elections Bonnie Jones then reviewed the absentee ballots and
discovered a ballot with Todd Vinson's name on it.

When she compared the signature on the ballot with the signature on Vinson's
voter registration card, they did not match.

Jones mailed a third ballot to Vinson, who voted for George W. Bush.

The Escambia incident was among a number of complaints about absentee ballots,
which elections officials said were cast in record numbers in Florida because
of an aggressive direct-mail drive by the political parties, especially the
Republicans.

In Pinellas, Barbara Argyros, who owns a printing company, said she went to her
Seminole polling place on Tuesday evening but was turned away from voting after
a clerk erroneously claimed she already had cast an absentee ballot.

"No, I didn't," Mrs. Argyros, a registered Democrat, insisted to the clerk. "I
haven't voted absentee. I haven't voted yet."

An election clerk tried for 45 minutes to call the central Pinellas elections
office to clear up the problem but couldn't get through to anyone. Mrs. Argyros
walked out in frustration.

"I felt mad, ripped off," she said.

Meanwhile, civil rights leaders called for a Justice Department investigation
as NAACP offices around the state continued to gather hundreds of complaints
from voters who said they were disenfranchised. Black voters with voter
registration cards and proper identification were not listed on voter rolls.

There were reports of polls closing while people were still in line in Tampa
and from voters who were denied ballots on grounds that their precinct had
changed.

Tampa voter Willie Dickens filed two lawsuits Thursday in state court and
federal court in Tallahassee, seeking to stop the state canvassing board from
certifying Tuesday's election.

Federal Judge Robert Hinkle denied Dickens' request for an emergency
injunction, but set a hearing for Nov. 21, according to his attorney, Sidney
Matthew.

Matthew said a poll worker refused to allow Dickens to vote Tuesday because he
did not have a driver's license. He wasn't allowed to sign an affidavit
swearing to his identity, either.

By the time Dickens drove home and got his photo ID, the polls had closed.

"Willie feels that he was denied the right to vote because he was
African-American," Matthew said.

In Miami, the NAACP charged that election officials refused to allow
translators for Creole-speaking Haitian-Americans.

In Hillsborough, Brenda Wade, a Head Start teacher, said she was given a ballot
that had already been punched for Bush. Wade, who is black, said the elections
clerk gave her a new card, but the teacher nonetheless found the experience
suspicious.

Shawnda Newkirk, a 27-year-old marketing coordinator, complained that a
30-person line of voters with problems in her poll, Precinct 330 in Largo,
seemed to be made up entirely of black voters, while whites coasted through the
voting.

Adora Obi Nweze, president of the NAACP in Florida, had her own bad experience.


Nweze said she was told she couldn't vote because she had already been sent an
absentee ballot. She said she had to recite the law to elections officials
before they allowed her to vote.

Scores of convicted felons, who had voted in past presidential elections, did
not understand why they were turned away at the polls this year.

"I have been voting for a long time," said Derek Graham, 34, who was convicted
of a felony 13 years ago.

He didn't know that the secretary of state removed about 12,000 convicted
felons from the voting rolls this summer who had mistakenly been voting.

In Hillsborough, about 2,900 voters were purged from the rolls.

Graham said he should have learned about the purge months ago so he would have
had enough time to get his civil rights restored.

Instead, he received a letter from Supervisor of Elections Pam Iorio Thursday
about his removal from the rolls.

"It came today and the election was two days ago," Graham said.

Besides irregularities, elections offices were dogged by complaints of
bureaucratic mismanagement, from inadequately staffed polling places to
untrained poll workers to paperwork glitches.

Lawrence Fenn Ellery, 69, in charge of Precinct 105 on 54th Avenue S in St.
Petersburg, said 10 to 15 percent of the 1,100 voters who came to his poll had
problems and couldn't vote."

More:

http://www.sptimes.com/News/111000/Election2000/Forged_ballot_in_Esca.shtml

The Bushies stole the Florida electoral votes and this year they are looking
further afield.

Walt

Stephen Harding
June 23rd 04, 03:35 PM
WalterM140 wrote:

> St. Petersburg Times, November 10, 2000:
>
> "State prosecutors are investigating whether a forged absentee ballot in
> Escambia County was part of a broader voter-fraud scheme, as new reports of
> voting irregularities, including intimidation of minority voters, continued to
> surface around the state.

[snip political sour grapes]

So they've been wondering since November 2000? Don't prosecutors
have anything to go on after 3 1/2 years beyond speculation?

I think it's pretty well determined "irregularities" occurred on
both sides of the vote in Florida. The "stolen election" stories
are largely made up.

> The Bushies stole the Florida electoral votes and this year they are looking
> further afield.

Here in Northampton, we just had a town election to attempt a Proposition
2 1/2 over-ride. Prop 2 1/2 limits property tax increases to no more
than 2 1/2 percent per year, without an over-ride vote.

The over-ride was defeated by an amazing *ONE* vote! A recount "found"
7 additional votes jammed in the bottom of a voting machine. They
should have been checked by the election officials at the close of
voting, but weren't.

Several ballots had no vote at all, while a couple had "yes" AND "no"
options checked. (The ballots are paper where you fill in a bar to
register your vote; the ballot is then counted electronically by an
optical scanner.)

The recount had the proposal being defeated by 7 votes instead of only
one, out of about 5000+ votes cast.

Now if this were a politically charged election, and there were actually
Republicans around (there largely aren't any in these parts; most everyone
is a liberal or moderate shade of Democrat or Green or Communist or
Socialist) I can imagine the charges and counter charges over these
"irregularities". I can imagine the claims of "disenfranchisement"
from persons who might think they had a blank or double vote ballot
(thrown out). I can see the claims of the evil "neocons" attempting
to steal the election with electronic voting machines built by
corporations with ties to Bush.

The fact is mistakes in vote counting, and the act of voting itself,
are made with every election. It is only the closeness of the FL
vote, and the bitterness of Conservative/Liberal politics in this
country, that have produced the "stolen vote" spin on the 2000 election
in FL.

The conspiracies, the fraud, the illegalites, the claims of a stolen
election are all made up.


SMH

Leslie Swartz
June 24th 04, 07:05 PM
Indeed.

Knowing the absentee ballots would overwhelmingly go to Bush, the democratic
controlled fraud machine in Florida did everything it could to throw out any
and all absentee ballots.

It is brazen cheekiness of hte first order to now dig up ONE (or two, or
three, or more) example where the carte-blanche decertification of absentee
ballots caught yup one of their own- and then cry abouthow unfair it was!

Here's a deal: we'll allow the odd couple of hundred of decertified
democrat cast absentee votes to count- as long as we do the same favor for
the 10,000 or so decertified republican cast absentee ballots.

Steve Swartz

And while we're at it- stop repeating the lie that "Gore won the popular
election." The popular election tally was well within the margin of error.
Bush could have won the popular vote. Gore could have won the popular vote.
They could have exactly tied the popular vote.

And it doesn't matter anyway- that's not how we elect a president in the
first place.



"Ian MacLure" > wrote in message
...
> (WalterM140) wrote in
> :
>
> [snip]
>
> > Jones mailed a third ballot to Vinson, who voted for George W. Bush.
>
> So let me see.
> The voting, which is administered by local election committees,
> most of which were Dumbocreep controlled, was a rampant cluster-
> ****. Same system which these committees had not seen fit to change
> for many moons turned out to have major flaws.
> And this was the Republicans' fault why exactly?
>
> Algore lost.
> The Boston Waffler is going to lose.
> Accept this and your life will be less stressful.
>
> IBM
>
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