Bush is a Failure in War on Terror

[WalterM140]

Where to start?

"Tonight, I am instructing the leaders of the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Homeland
Security and the Department of Defense to develop a Terrorist Threat
Integration Center, to merge and analyze all threat information in a single
location. Our government must have the very best information possible." Thus
spoke President Bush in the 2003 State of the Union address. A White House fact
sheet called the center "the next phase in the dramatic enhancement of the
government's counterterrorism effort."

[reported in today's NY Times]

But:

"Mr. Lehman also predicted that the [9/11] commission's final report would
include unanimous recommendations for change in the intelligence services,
which he said could not distinguish "between a bicycle crash and a train
wreck.""It is dysfunctional," he said. "It needs fundamental change, not just
tweaking and moving the deck chairs or the organization boxes around."-- NY
Times

Lehman of course was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.

-- NY Times 6/20/04

Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our intelligence
apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a train
wreck."

George Bush is a miserable failure. He has to go.

Walt

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Bush is a Failure in War on Terror
>From: (WalterM140)
>Date: 6/25/2004 4:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Where to start?
>
>"Tonight, I am instructing the leaders of the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the
>Homeland
>Security and the Department of Defense to develop a Terrorist Threat
>Integration Center, to merge and analyze all threat information in a single
>location. Our government must have the very best information possible." Thus
>spoke President Bush in the 2003 State of the Union address. A White House
>fact
>sheet called the center "the next phase in the dramatic enhancement of the
>government's counterterrorism effort."
>
>[reported in today's NY Times]
>
>But:
>
>"Mr. Lehman also predicted that the [9/11] commission's final report would
>include unanimous recommendations for change in the intelligence services,
>which he said could not distinguish "between a bicycle crash and a train
>wreck.""It is dysfunctional," he said. "It needs fundamental change, not just
>tweaking and moving the deck chairs or the organization boxes around."-- NY
>Times
>
>Lehman of course was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.
>
>-- NY Times 6/20/04
>
>Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our
>intelligence
>apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a train
>wreck."
>
>George Bush is a miserable failure. He has to go.
>
>Walt
>
>

Worst president in American history.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[WalterM140]

>>Lehman of course was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.
>>
>>-- NY Times 6/20/04
>>
>>Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our
>>intelligence
>>apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a train
>>wreck."
>>
>>George Bush is a miserable failure. He has to go.
>>
>>Walt
>>
>>
>
>Worst president in American history.
>
>

Sure, Art. That's a no-brainer.

Now the Bush supporters are racking their brain trying to figure out some way
to brand Lehman as a leftie.

We are -less- safe now than we were 3 years ago.

BUT -- we have over 900 KIA in war on terror, so vote for Bush!

I'm sorry guys. He screwed you. He's the worst president ever.

Walt

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Bush is a Failure in War on Terror
>From: (WalterM140)
>Date: 6/25/2004 7:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >

>>Lehman of course was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.
>>>
>>>-- NY Times 6/20/04
>>>
>>>Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our
>>>intelligence
>>>apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a train
>>>wreck."
>>>
>>>George Bush is a miserable failure. He has to go.
>>>
>>>Walt
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Worst president in American history.
>>
>>
>
>Sure, Art. That's a no-brainer.
>
>Now the Bush supporters are racking their brain trying to figure out some way
>to brand Lehman as a leftie.
>
>We are -less- safe now than we were 3 years ago.
>
>BUT -- we have over 900 KIA in war on terror, so vote for Bush!
>
>I'm sorry guys. He screwed you. He's the worst president ever.
>
>Walt
>

They need no facts to brand Lehman a leftie. They will just say God told them
so.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Jarg]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: Bush is a Failure in War on Terror
> >From: (WalterM140)
> >Date: 6/25/2004 7:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
>
> >>Lehman of course was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.
> >>>
> >>>-- NY Times 6/20/04
> >>>
> >>>Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our
> >>>intelligence
> >>>apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a
train
> >>>wreck."
> >>>
> >>>George Bush is a miserable failure. He has to go.
> >>>
> >>>Walt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Worst president in American history.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Sure, Art. That's a no-brainer.
> >
> >Now the Bush supporters are racking their brain trying to figure out some
way
> >to brand Lehman as a leftie.
> >
> >We are -less- safe now than we were 3 years ago.
> >
> >BUT -- we have over 900 KIA in war on terror, so vote for Bush!
> >
> >I'm sorry guys. He screwed you. He's the worst president ever.
> >
> >Walt
> >
>
> They need no facts to brand Lehman a leftie. They will just say God told
them
> so.
>
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

Who's on top next? You guys really should get a room!

I guess it's comforting to know that even if no one else will listen to your
nonsense, you still have each other.

Jarg

[tscottme]

"ian maclure" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:08:43 +0000, WalterM140 wrote:
>
> > Where to start?
>
> Well, extracting your head from your fundamental orifice would
> be progress.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Soooooooooo..... eighteen months after the 2003 SOTU address, our
intelligence
> > apparatus can't tell the difference "between a bicycle crash and a train
> > wreck."
>
> [snip]
>
> And of course that one of the so-called investigators bears
> no small part of the blame for not allowing intelligence
> agencies to put the disparate parts of the puzzles(s)
> together is entirely irrelevant.
> Phew, am I glad you cleared that up.
>
> IBM
>

I wonder if laying off 1/3 of the CIA in the 1990s contributed to not
connecting dots in 2001?

--
Scott

"I don't need to know very much about you or your ideas to know that if you
think Michael Moore is just great, a truth-teller and a much-needed tonic
for everything that is wrong in American life, you are not someone to take
seriously about anything of political consequence, or you are French. But I
repeat myself." - Jonah Goldberg

[WalterM140]

> if you
>think Michael Moore is just great, a truth-teller and a much-needed tonic
>for everything that is wrong in American life

That's not far from the truth.

Walt

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Bush is a Failure in War on Terror
>From: (WalterM140)
>Date: 6/30/2004 5:23 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>> if you
>>think Michael Moore is just great, a truth-teller and a much-needed tonic
>>for everything that is wrong in American life
>
>That's not far from the truth.
>
>Walt
>


The nation is now in a Moore frenzy. Bye bye Bush.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Brett]

"ArtKramr" > wrote:

> The nation is now in a Moore frenzy.

And might have been news last week, Spiderman opened today

[Chad Irby]

In article >,
(ArtKramr) wrote:

> The nation is now in a Moore frenzy.

Yeah, nearly as many people went to see "Fahrenheit 9/11" last week as
went to see "Jackass: the Movie" when it opened...

Moore is nearly as popular as *Johnny Knoxville*!!!

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

[Kevin Brooks]

"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: Bush is a Failure in War on Terror
> >From: (WalterM140)
> >Date: 6/30/2004 5:23 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >> if you
> >>think Michael Moore is just great, a truth-teller and a much-needed
tonic
> >>for everything that is wrong in American life
> >
> >That's not far from the truth.
> >
> >Walt
> >
>
>
> The nation is now in a Moore frenzy. Bye bye Bush.

One can trust that you will NEVER, EVER again compalin about off-topic posts
in this NG, given your recent obvious compulsion to regurgitate every
possible variation of anti-Bush rhetoric you come across, and this virtual
hand-holding, lovey-dovey bit you have going on with your newest and bestest
buddy, Walt. Geeze, take it to a motel, why doncha?

Brooks

>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Kevin Brooks" > wrote in message
...
>
> One can trust that you will NEVER, EVER again compalin about
> off-topic posts in this NG, given your recent obvious compulsion
> to regurgitate every possible variation of anti-Bush rhetoric you come
> across,
>

No, one cannot do that. One can trust that Art will continue to complain
about behavior that he engages in.

[Bill & Susan Maddux]

I guess I must have been asleep for the last three years, has there been
another attack in America that I have missed. How can you say that Bush has
failed in the war on terror, when there hasn't been another attacks here
since 9-11? Lets not forget who was in office in 93 when the twin towers was
hit the first time, and did nothing about it. Lets not forget whom was in
office when the Embassies in Africa where bombed. Lets not forget who was in
office when the Cole was hit. In all these cases the president of the United
States, said I will not rest until these people are caught, and brought to
justice. Or something like that. The same man, who cut military spending,
cut the legs out from under the Intelligence agencies. The man who made the
US appear weak to potential enemies, who used it as a means to strike the
heart of America. The Terrorist only mistake was not committing these
strikes while Clinton was still in office, because he would have done
anything in return, except maybe attack a pill factory in some third world
nation.

Bill Maddux
USAF SAC/ACC

[Leslie Swartz]

Bill:

You forgot (in listing Klinton's failures) to mention: " . . . the same
man who . . . " did nothing about the information contained in a PDB about
OBL hijacking airliners and running other terror ops in the US.

Steve Swartz

"Bill & Susan Maddux" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> I guess I must have been asleep for the last three years, has there been
> another attack in America that I have missed. How can you say that Bush
has
> failed in the war on terror, when there hasn't been another attacks here
> since 9-11? Lets not forget who was in office in 93 when the twin towers
was
> hit the first time, and did nothing about it. Lets not forget whom was in
> office when the Embassies in Africa where bombed. Lets not forget who was
in
> office when the Cole was hit. In all these cases the president of the
United
> States, said I will not rest until these people are caught, and brought to
> justice. Or something like that. The same man, who cut military spending,
> cut the legs out from under the Intelligence agencies. The man who made
the
> US appear weak to potential enemies, who used it as a means to strike the
> heart of America. The Terrorist only mistake was not committing these
> strikes while Clinton was still in office, because he would have done
> anything in return, except maybe attack a pill factory in some third world
> nation.
>
> Bill Maddux
> USAF SAC/ACC
>
>