Navy College Programs

[WaLDo Michael]

Hi.. I have just a few questions about the Navy I was hoping someone
here could help me with. Now for starters, my ultimate goal is to
become a Naval aviator, that's why I posted this message here. I will
settle for just being an officer in some other department of the navy,
since the aviation is a very competitive section. I do feel that I
have what it takes to do this though. I just took the ASVAB and made
an overall 81 on it. I scored low on the Word Knowledge section
that's why it wasn't higher, so I have been trying to build my
vocabulary.

Anyway, I'm a 19 year old High School Graduate, who didn't do very
well in High School only because I never went. And I'm not just
saying that to say that, I am a very smart individual who just didn't
try in High School. I will, in fact, do alot better in college
because I know it's very Important. My first question is: Is there
any Navy programs that I can go in as Enlisted and eventually become
an officer? If so, how long would it take and what are the
requirements and chances of me becoming an aviator?

I know you have to have a Bachelor's Degree, but in what? And would
going in as enlisted with a navy college tuition program be better for
starters, just to go ahead and get the degree out of the way and then
try for Officer?

If I do go in as enlisted under a college program do I serve my four
years then go to college paid for by the navy, or do I go to college
while doing my four years?

I don't want to go to my recruiter and ask these questions because he
recruits enlisted and I don't know where an officer recruiter is
around where I am from, so I feel I would get better information and
opinions from news groups like this. By the way I do have 20/20 in
both eyes and being physically fit is not an issue. I was just
thinking that because I didn't do to well in High School that it would
be harder for me to eventually become an officer/aviator..? I made
pretty much C average in History and English, but I made As and Bs in
Math and Science.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank You for your time!

Michael

[vincent p. norris]

> I am a very smart individual......

Nothing in your post supports that high opinion you have of yourself.

You were dumb to ignore the opportunities of high school and now
you're paying the price. You are not likely to do well in college
because you aren't prepared for it.

Find some school where you can learn to write better English and
while you're at it, learn to study. Then you might be able to do
better in any Navy program and in life.

vince norris

[WaLDo Michael]

vincent p. norris > wrote in message >...
> > I am a very smart individual......
>
> Nothing in your post supports that high opinion you have of yourself.
>
> You were dumb to ignore the opportunities of high school and now
> you're paying the price. You are not likely to do well in college
> because you aren't prepared for it.
>
> Find some school where you can learn to write better English and
> while you're at it, learn to study. Then you might be able to do
> better in any Navy program and in life.
>
> vince norris

Hmmm... I didn't ask for your opinion on me, so don't give it. If
you can't answer my questions then don't write anything. You don't
know me, and I'm not going to argue with you on the internet because
it's pointless and childish. But thank you anyway. If anyone else
can answere any of my questions I would appreciate it. thanks

[B2431]

>From: (WaLDo Michael)
>Date: 7/7/2004 9:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>vincent p. norris > wrote in message
>...
>> > I am a very smart individual......
>>
>> Nothing in your post supports that high opinion you have of yourself.
>>
>> You were dumb to ignore the opportunities of high school and now
>> you're paying the price. You are not likely to do well in college
>> because you aren't prepared for it.
>>
>> Find some school where you can learn to write better English and
>> while you're at it, learn to study. Then you might be able to do
>> better in any Navy program and in life.
>>
>> vince norris
>
>Hmmm... I didn't ask for your opinion on me, so don't give it. If
>you can't answer my questions then don't write anything. You don't
>know me, and I'm not going to argue with you on the internet because
>it's pointless and childish. But thank you anyway. If anyone else
>can answere any of my questions I would appreciate it. thanks

He may not have worded it correctly but you do have to be able to spell better
than you have demonstrated thus far if you want to be accepted for any military
education programs. The people who make the decision to accept your application
will judge you primarily on your accademic achievements thus far. If your
application is full of poor grammar and spelling it will almost certainly
result in rejection.

If you have to personally face a board poor grammar and/or enunciation will
shoot you down.

Get the chip off your shoulder and get to work.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Cub Driver]

He wasn't giving his opinion of you, but of your preparation as it was
presented in your post. "On the internet, nobody knows you're a
dog"--but nobody knows you are smart, handsome, and affable, either.
The same is true at college admissions offices and navy offices.
What's on the paper or in the email is all they have to go by. So yes,
written English is very important, as are test-taking skills.

Good luck in your career, whatever it may be!

On 7 Jul 2004 19:02:25 -0700, (WaLDo Michael)
wrote:

>vincent p. norris > wrote in message >...
>> > I am a very smart individual......
>>
>> Nothing in your post supports that high opinion you have of yourself.
>>
>> You were dumb to ignore the opportunities of high school and now
>> you're paying the price. You are not likely to do well in college
>> because you aren't prepared for it.
>>
>> Find some school where you can learn to write better English and
>> while you're at it, learn to study. Then you might be able to do
>> better in any Navy program and in life.
>>
>> vince norris
>
>Hmmm... I didn't ask for your opinion on me, so don't give it. If
>you can't answer my questions then don't write anything. You don't
>know me, and I'm not going to argue with you on the internet because
>it's pointless and childish. But thank you anyway. If anyone else
>can answere any of my questions I would appreciate it. thanks

all the best -- Dan Ford
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[NeilJMc]

>Subject: Navy College Programs
>From: (WaLDo Michael)
>Date: 7/1/2004 11:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: >

>I will, in fact, do alot better in college
>because I know it's very Important.
It is likely that any officer program looks at the total individual including
how they did in academics and extra curricular programs. Therefore now is the
time for you to prove yourself both in academics and community projects.

> Is there
>any Navy programs that I can go in as Enlisted and eventually become
>an officer?

Have you explored universities that offer Navy ROTC programs. Often a person at
a Univ. can participate in the first two years of ROTC w/o commitments. If that
individual is a 'high' performer there may be a possibility that the last two
years could be on 'contract' with NROTC leading to a commission. Do a 'Google'
for Univ. that might offer Navy ROTC.
Many of the branches have 'recruiters' that recruit for the officer corp.
Channeling people toward ROTC, Academies, or OCS/OTS commissioning programs.


>I know you have to have a Bachelor's Degree, but in what?
Well. . .I'd say most anything from my own experience but since that was in the
60s I'm probably the exception rather than the rule. In reality a math/science
major would serve you better. Remember you not only have to prepare for what
the military wants but for the future when you will not be in the military.

>If I do go in as enlisted under a college program do I serve my four
>years then go to college paid for by the navy, or do I go to college
>while doing my four years?
If you enlist there could be some college programs available on or near the
base. Most bases have an education office that helps all on base toward further
education. And remember now that some classes could be done on-line. There are
a lot of events that might occur during four years that might change your
goals.

As others have stated in other posts to you that officer selection is like
getting into a large college. The 'total' picture of an individual is examined.
I was an Air Force Academy Liaison Officer and counseled HS Jrs. & Srs. looking
to get an appointment to the Academy. Academics a priority as was the prospect
that a prospect could 'get through.' I also taught at an University and
advised students in my area.
It is important to look at all options. Get information from various sources.
Might want to try some searches on the 'official' branch site of the Navy.
Check to see if there are USN reserve units around and as I mentioned check for
USN ROTC at Univs.
NJMc