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July 2nd 04, 06:57 AM
Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s as
replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The FC-1, a
lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will provide a
credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen multi-role
fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish arms
manufacturer.

The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the paper it's
printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns away
international food aid saying they have everything under control and don't
need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?! Can't
anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!

Tamas Feher
July 2nd 04, 08:29 AM
>Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s as
>replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The FC-1,
a
>lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will provide
a
>credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen
multi-role
>fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish arms
>manufacturer.
>
>The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the paper
it's
>printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns away
>international food aid saying they have everything under control and
don't
>need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?!
Can't
>anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!

South Africa has invaded Angola in the past and only Fidel Castro's
Cuban revolutionary brigades could stop the SA advance. All African
countries are afraid of SA, remember it has been a mere 10 years since
the rule of apartheid was toppled. It could return any time.

Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to overthrow
african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil, gold
and diamond fields.

Eunometic
July 2nd 04, 01:48 PM
"Tamas Feher" > wrote in message
...
> >Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s
as
> >replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The
FC-1,
> a
> >lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will
provide
> a
> >credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen
> multi-role
> >fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish
arms
> >manufacturer.
> >
> >The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the
paper
> it's
> >printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns
away
> >international food aid saying they have everything under control
and
> don't
> >need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?!
> Can't
> >anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!
>
> South Africa has invaded Angola in the past and only Fidel Castro's
> Cuban revolutionary brigades could stop the SA advance. All African
> countries are afraid of SA, remember it has been a mere 10 years
since
> the rule of apartheid was toppled. It could return any time.

Zimbabwe is ofcourse not Angola. Sth Africa involved itself in
Angola becuase it had become a home base for ANC insurgents.

Mugabe's muderous Korean Brigades (massacred at least 20,000) should
have given us a taste of what this man was about.

The fact that Apartheid collapsed was a tragedy.

http://www.christianaction.org.za/magazine_ca/2003-3-MURDER_IN.htm

" The UCA Report on Murder in South Africa reveals that according to
the official statistics, in the 44 years from 1950 to 1993, there was
an average of 7036 murders per year. This covered the turbulent strife
of
the apartheid years of warfare, conflict, terrorism, riots and
"repression".

(IE when Whites were accused of 'inciting' violence and just before
handover the rate was even less, around 2000)

However, in the first eight years (of peace) of the new democratic
dispensation, under the ANC, an average of 24 206 murders were
committed each year - officially!. However, if the Interpol statistics
are accepted, then the murder rate in South Africa during the ANC
years has averaged 47 882 per year."

So in ten years we have 30,000 Whites out of an estimated total of
240,000 (470,000 interpol)

We have up to an 8 times increases in murder according to Interpol and
4 times according to the ANCs own dubious data 10 years after then end
of Apartheid.

Zimbabwe has an even more massive increase in murder rate, with often
defenceless old White couples tortured to death in the most brutal
manner.


> Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to
overthrow
> african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil,
gold
> and diamond fields.
>

They over throw themselves quite easily enough: they were never stable
before or after White or Arab historical involvement. Modern rifled
weapons merely makes things worse.

The conclusion is that Whites and a lot of Blacks were better of under
White rule.



>

Tony
July 2nd 04, 10:04 PM
Just a rumor, which is really baseless.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200406/22/eng20040622_147120.html
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/f72.11133.html



"Eunometic" > wrote in message >...
> "Tamas Feher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s
> as
> > >replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The
> FC-1,
> a
> > >lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will
> provide
> a
> > >credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen
> multi-role
> > >fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish
> arms
> > >manufacturer.
> > >
> > >The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the
> paper
> it's
> > >printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns
> away
> > >international food aid saying they have everything under control
> and
> don't
> > >need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?!
> Can't
> > >anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!
> >
> > South Africa has invaded Angola in the past and only Fidel Castro's
> > Cuban revolutionary brigades could stop the SA advance. All African
> > countries are afraid of SA, remember it has been a mere 10 years
> since
> > the rule of apartheid was toppled. It could return any time.
>
> Zimbabwe is ofcourse not Angola. Sth Africa involved itself in
> Angola becuase it had become a home base for ANC insurgents.
>
> Mugabe's muderous Korean Brigades (massacred at least 20,000) should
> have given us a taste of what this man was about.
>
> The fact that Apartheid collapsed was a tragedy.
>
> http://www.christianaction.org.za/magazine_ca/2003-3-MURDER_IN.htm
>
> " The UCA Report on Murder in South Africa reveals that according to
> the official statistics, in the 44 years from 1950 to 1993, there was
> an average of 7036 murders per year. This covered the turbulent strife
> of
> the apartheid years of warfare, conflict, terrorism, riots and
> "repression".
>
> (IE when Whites were accused of 'inciting' violence and just before
> handover the rate was even less, around 2000)
>
> However, in the first eight years (of peace) of the new democratic
> dispensation, under the ANC, an average of 24 206 murders were
> committed each year - officially!. However, if the Interpol statistics
> are accepted, then the murder rate in South Africa during the ANC
> years has averaged 47 882 per year."
>
> So in ten years we have 30,000 Whites out of an estimated total of
> 240,000 (470,000 interpol)
>
> We have up to an 8 times increases in murder according to Interpol and
> 4 times according to the ANCs own dubious data 10 years after then end
> of Apartheid.
>
> Zimbabwe has an even more massive increase in murder rate, with often
> defenceless old White couples tortured to death in the most brutal
> manner.
>
>
> > Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to
> overthrow
> > african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil,
> gold
> > and diamond fields.
> >
>
> They over throw themselves quite easily enough: they were never stable
> before or after White or Arab historical involvement. Modern rifled
> weapons merely makes things worse.
>
> The conclusion is that Whites and a lot of Blacks were better of under
> White rule.
>
>
>
> >

Tony
July 2nd 04, 10:06 PM
Just a rumor, which is baseless.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200406/22/eng20040622_147120.html
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/f72.11133.html

"Eunometic" > wrote in message >...
> "Tamas Feher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s
> as
> > >replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The
> FC-1,
> a
> > >lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will
> provide
> a
> > >credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen
> multi-role
> > >fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish
> arms
> > >manufacturer.
> > >
> > >The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the
> paper
> it's
> > >printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns
> away
> > >international food aid saying they have everything under control
> and
> don't
> > >need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?!
> Can't
> > >anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!
> >
> > South Africa has invaded Angola in the past and only Fidel Castro's
> > Cuban revolutionary brigades could stop the SA advance. All African
> > countries are afraid of SA, remember it has been a mere 10 years
> since
> > the rule of apartheid was toppled. It could return any time.
>
> Zimbabwe is ofcourse not Angola. Sth Africa involved itself in
> Angola becuase it had become a home base for ANC insurgents.
>
> Mugabe's muderous Korean Brigades (massacred at least 20,000) should
> have given us a taste of what this man was about.
>
> The fact that Apartheid collapsed was a tragedy.
>
> http://www.christianaction.org.za/magazine_ca/2003-3-MURDER_IN.htm
>
> " The UCA Report on Murder in South Africa reveals that according to
> the official statistics, in the 44 years from 1950 to 1993, there was
> an average of 7036 murders per year. This covered the turbulent strife
> of
> the apartheid years of warfare, conflict, terrorism, riots and
> "repression".
>
> (IE when Whites were accused of 'inciting' violence and just before
> handover the rate was even less, around 2000)
>
> However, in the first eight years (of peace) of the new democratic
> dispensation, under the ANC, an average of 24 206 murders were
> committed each year - officially!. However, if the Interpol statistics
> are accepted, then the murder rate in South Africa during the ANC
> years has averaged 47 882 per year."
>
> So in ten years we have 30,000 Whites out of an estimated total of
> 240,000 (470,000 interpol)
>
> We have up to an 8 times increases in murder according to Interpol and
> 4 times according to the ANCs own dubious data 10 years after then end
> of Apartheid.
>
> Zimbabwe has an even more massive increase in murder rate, with often
> defenceless old White couples tortured to death in the most brutal
> manner.
>
>
> > Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to
> overthrow
> > african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil,
> gold
> > and diamond fields.
> >
>
> They over throw themselves quite easily enough: they were never stable
> before or after White or Arab historical involvement. Modern rifled
> weapons merely makes things worse.
>
> The conclusion is that Whites and a lot of Blacks were better of under
> White rule.
>
>
>
> >

Tony
July 2nd 04, 10:06 PM
Just a rumor, which is baseless.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200406/22/eng20040622_147120.html
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/f72.11133.html

"Eunometic" > wrote in message >...
> "Tamas Feher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >Military sources in Harare say that Zimbabwe will acquire 12 FC-1s
> as
> > >replacements for the Chengdu F-7s, currently based in Gweru. The
> FC-1,
> a
> > >lightweight multipurpose fighter based on Russia's MiG-33, will
> provide
> a
> > >credible answer to the challenge posed by the 28 JAS-39 Gripen
> multi-role
> > >fighters that the SA government has ordered from Saab, the Swedish
> arms
> > >manufacturer.
> > >
> > >The rural population is starving, their currency is not worth the
> paper
> it's
> > >printed on, they can't pay their international bills, Mugabe turns
> away
> > >international food aid saying they have everything under control
> and
> don't
> > >need charity, and now this! Who's he plan to use them on, Britian?!
> Can't
> > >anyone stop this idiot Mugabe?!
> >
> > South Africa has invaded Angola in the past and only Fidel Castro's
> > Cuban revolutionary brigades could stop the SA advance. All African
> > countries are afraid of SA, remember it has been a mere 10 years
> since
> > the rule of apartheid was toppled. It could return any time.
>
> Zimbabwe is ofcourse not Angola. Sth Africa involved itself in
> Angola becuase it had become a home base for ANC insurgents.
>
> Mugabe's muderous Korean Brigades (massacred at least 20,000) should
> have given us a taste of what this man was about.
>
> The fact that Apartheid collapsed was a tragedy.
>
> http://www.christianaction.org.za/magazine_ca/2003-3-MURDER_IN.htm
>
> " The UCA Report on Murder in South Africa reveals that according to
> the official statistics, in the 44 years from 1950 to 1993, there was
> an average of 7036 murders per year. This covered the turbulent strife
> of
> the apartheid years of warfare, conflict, terrorism, riots and
> "repression".
>
> (IE when Whites were accused of 'inciting' violence and just before
> handover the rate was even less, around 2000)
>
> However, in the first eight years (of peace) of the new democratic
> dispensation, under the ANC, an average of 24 206 murders were
> committed each year - officially!. However, if the Interpol statistics
> are accepted, then the murder rate in South Africa during the ANC
> years has averaged 47 882 per year."
>
> So in ten years we have 30,000 Whites out of an estimated total of
> 240,000 (470,000 interpol)
>
> We have up to an 8 times increases in murder according to Interpol and
> 4 times according to the ANCs own dubious data 10 years after then end
> of Apartheid.
>
> Zimbabwe has an even more massive increase in murder rate, with often
> defenceless old White couples tortured to death in the most brutal
> manner.
>
>
> > Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to
> overthrow
> > african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil,
> gold
> > and diamond fields.
> >
>
> They over throw themselves quite easily enough: they were never stable
> before or after White or Arab historical involvement. Modern rifled
> weapons merely makes things worse.
>
> The conclusion is that Whites and a lot of Blacks were better of under
> White rule.
>
>
>
> >

tim gueguen
July 2nd 04, 10:13 PM
"Eunometic" > wrote in message
...
> The fact that Apartheid collapsed was a tragedy.
>
The fact that you believe this is a tragedy, and proof you're an idiot.

tim gueguen 101867

phil hunt
July 2nd 04, 11:13 PM
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:29:15 +0200, Tamas Feher > wrote:
>
>Some countries like Spain and Britain are actively trying to overthrow
>african regimes right now. They want to lay their hands on the oil, gold
>and diamond fields.

Which regimes in Britain currently trying to overthrow?

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