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[Steve]

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/23053/Bz78777.jpg

:-)


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[Bob Urz]

Steve wrote:
> http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/23053/Bz78777.jpg
>
> :-)
>
>
And what is this suppose to be? Photoshop or otherwise?
The mythical aurora?

It looks like someone's conception of what a stealth follow on to a F111
would be.

Even if if could take off a flight deck, it would look like it would be
dragging its ass if it tried to land on one. ;)

Bob



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[Krztalizer]

>
>And what is this suppose to be? Photoshop or otherwise?
>The mythical aurora?

Close... but not photoshopped.

>
>Even if if could take off a flight deck, it would look like it would be
>dragging its ass if it tried to land on one.

Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
looking prop, if a bit far fetched.

v/r
Gordon
<====(A+C====>
USN SAR

Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.

[Bob Urz]

Krztalizer wrote:
>>And what is this suppose to be? Photoshop or otherwise?
>>The mythical aurora?
>
>
> Close... but not photoshopped.
>
>
>>Even if if could take off a flight deck, it would look like it would be
>>dragging its ass if it tried to land on one.
>
>
> Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
> looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
>
> v/r
> Gordon
> <====(A+C====>
> USN SAR
>
> Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
>
Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
movie was it being used for?

Its hard to tell from that angle, but it does look like it could be
believable and fly. It look a lot cooler than the artist F22 or ATF
planes that were in the magazines before the f22 and the stealth came
out. Maybe the Skunk works is building props now.

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[Kerry Ferrand]

In article >, says...
>
>
> Krztalizer wrote:
> >>And what is this suppose to be? Photoshop or otherwise?
> >>The mythical aurora?
> >
> >
> > Close... but not photoshopped.
> >
> >
> >>Even if if could take off a flight deck, it would look like it would be
> >>dragging its ass if it tried to land on one.
> >
> >
> > Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
> > looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
> >
> > v/r
> > Gordon
> > <====(A+C====>
> > USN SAR
> >
> > Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
> >
> Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
> movie was it being used for?

Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
like Knight Rider with jet planes.

[Stephen FPilot Bierce]

Bob Urz > wrote:

>Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
>movie was it being used for?
>
>Its hard to tell from that angle, but it does look like it could be
>believable and fly. It look a lot cooler than the artist F22 or ATF
>planes that were in the magazines before the f22 and the stealth came
>out. Maybe the Skunk works is building props now.

From the configuration of the wing appendages (which look more like
trailing-edge flaps than leading-edge slats) and the positioning of the stars
and bars on top, I'd think this craft has an aft-mounted wing with canards.

Also reminds me of a few of those cockamamie Stavatti designs.

Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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[Robert]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:55:41 GMT, (Stephen
"FPilot" Bierce) wrote:

>Bob Urz > wrote:
>
>>Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
>>movie was it being used for?
>>
>>Its hard to tell from that angle, but it does look like it could be
>>believable and fly. It look a lot cooler than the artist F22 or ATF
>>planes that were in the magazines before the f22 and the stealth came
>>out. Maybe the Skunk works is building props now.
>
>From the configuration of the wing appendages (which look more like
>trailing-edge flaps than leading-edge slats) and the positioning of the stars
>and bars on top, I'd think this craft has an aft-mounted wing with canards.
>
>Also reminds me of a few of those cockamamie Stavatti designs.
>
>Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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From these two views:

http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=15332
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=15329

....it would appear to have VG wings similar to the Northrop
'Switchblade:'

http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/switchblade.shtml

[frank may]

Bob Urz > wrote in message >...
> Krztalizer wrote:
> >>And what is this suppose to be? Photoshop or otherwise?
> >>The mythical aurora?
> >
> >
> > Close... but not photoshopped.
> >
> >
> >>Even if if could take off a flight deck, it would look like it would be
> >>dragging its ass if it tried to land on one.
> >
> >
> > Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
> > looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
> >
> > v/r
> > Gordon
> > <====(A+C====>

From an upcoming Columbia/TriStar movie titled "Stealth".
> > USN SAR
> >
> > Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
> >
> Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
> movie was it being used for?
>
> Its hard to tell from that angle, but it does look like it could be
> believable and fly. It look a lot cooler than the artist F22 or ATF
> planes that were in the magazines before the f22 and the stealth came
> out. Maybe the Skunk works is building props now.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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[robert arndt]

> > > Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
> > > looking prop, if a bit far fetched.

> > > v/r
> > > Gordon
> > > <====(A+C====>
> > > USN SAR
> > >
> > > Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
> > >
> > Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
> > movie was it being used for?
>
> Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> like Knight Rider with jet planes.

The movie is "Stealth" and it comes out 7/29/05. The aircraft was
filmed on the deck of the aircraft carrier "Abraham Lincoln". The
aircraft is a "Talon" controlled by AI pilot who gets out of control
and starts to destroy stuff. Two other pilots are sent in to destroy
the aircraft.

Rob

[Stephen FPilot Bierce]

Kerry Ferrand > wrote:
> Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> like Knight Rider with jet planes.

After seeing the Northrop Grumman "Switchblade" pictures...

Close enough for a patent infringement lawsuit. And if the plot is
about a warplane AI going berzerk, and I were a bigwig at NG, I would
NOT be amused.

[BOB URZ]

robert arndt wrote:

> > > > Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie. Pretty good
> > > > looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
>
> > > > v/r
> > > > Gordon
> > > > <====(A+C====>
> > > > USN SAR
> > > >
> > > > Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
> > > >
> > > Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
> > > movie was it being used for?
> >
> > Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> > like Knight Rider with jet planes.
>
> The movie is "Stealth" and it comes out 7/29/05. The aircraft was
> filmed on the deck of the aircraft carrier "Abraham Lincoln". The
> aircraft is a "Talon" controlled by AI pilot who gets out of control
> and starts to destroy stuff. Two other pilots are sent in to destroy
> the aircraft.

Sounds like Will Smith did not kick all those robots asses in I-Robot
after all...... ;)

Bob


>
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> Rob



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[Vicente Vazquez]

Kerry Ferrand > wrote in message >...
> Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> like Knight Rider with jet planes.

And here comes another full load of stuff for the "aviation bloopers"
section ... ;)

[Marc Reeve]

robert arndt > wrote:

> > > > Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie.
> > > > Pretty good looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
>
> > > > v/r
> > > > Gordon
> > > > <====(A+C====>
> > > > USN SAR
> > > >
> > > > Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
> > > >
> > > Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
> > > movie was it being used for?
> >
> > Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> > like Knight Rider with jet planes.
>
> The movie is "Stealth" and it comes out 7/29/05. The aircraft was
> filmed on the deck of the aircraft carrier "Abraham Lincoln". The
> aircraft is a "Talon" controlled by AI pilot who gets out of control
> and starts to destroy stuff. Two other pilots are sent in to destroy
> the aircraft.
>
"Knight Rider with jet planes" probably ain't far off the mark, given
that the director/writer, Rob Cohen, was responsible for "Knight Rider
2010". He's better known recently for directing "The Fast and the
Furious" and "XXX", both movies with lots of testosterone and very
little plot. Oh yeah, and the *nudge* *wink* treatment of Skull & Bones,
everyone's favorite Yalie "secret society", "The Skulls" (2000).

-Marc

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[robert arndt]

(Stephen FPilot Bierce) wrote in message >...
> Kerry Ferrand > wrote:
> > Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
> > like Knight Rider with jet planes.
>
> After seeing the Northrop Grumman "Switchblade" pictures...
>
> Close enough for a patent infringement lawsuit. And if the plot is
> about a warplane AI going berzerk, and I were a bigwig at NG, I would
> NOT be amused.

Relax, in the movie the aircraft is a Boeing F/A-37 Talon. And its
configuration is NOT the same as the Switchblade if you see any 3-way
profiles of the Switchblade. A basic concept of a multi-sweep wing
isn't anything.

Rob

[Stephen FPilot Bierce]

(robert arndt) wrote:

>I wrote:
>> After seeing the Northrop Grumman "Switchblade" pictures...
>>
>> Close enough for a patent infringement lawsuit. And if the plot is
>> about a warplane AI going berzerk, and I were a bigwig at NG, I would
>> NOT be amused.
>
>Relax, in the movie the aircraft is a Boeing F/A-37 Talon. And its
>configuration is NOT the same as the Switchblade if you see any 3-way
>profiles of the Switchblade. A basic concept of a multi-sweep wing
>isn't anything.

Then if I were at Cessna I'd sue them for stealing the designation for the A-37
Dragonfly counterinsurgency aircraft. :p

Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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[B2431]

>From: (Stephen "FPilot" Bierce)
>Date: 7/15/2004 3:21 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
(robert arndt) wrote:
>
>>I wrote:
>>> After seeing the Northrop Grumman "Switchblade" pictures...
>>>
>>> Close enough for a patent infringement lawsuit. And if the plot is
>>> about a warplane AI going berzerk, and I were a bigwig at NG, I would
>>> NOT be amused.
>>
>>Relax, in the movie the aircraft is a Boeing F/A-37 Talon. And its
>>configuration is NOT the same as the Switchblade if you see any 3-way
>>profiles of the Switchblade. A basic concept of a multi-sweep wing
>>isn't anything.
>
>Then if I were at Cessna I'd sue them for stealing the designation for the
>A-37
>Dragonfly counterinsurgency aircraft. :p
>
>Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
>{Sig Quotes Removed on Request}

Cessna would be the wrong party to sue. It was USAF who assigned the
designation A-37.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Marc Reeve]

Marc Reeve wrote:

> robert arndt > wrote:
>
>
>>>>>Bob, it was on a US carrier a couple months back, for a movie.
>>>>>Pretty good looking prop, if a bit far fetched.
>>
>>>>>v/r
>>>>>Gordon
>>>>><====(A+C====>
>>>>> USN SAR
>>>>>
>>>>>Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Its a very cool looking prop. If it not a national security issue, what
>>>>movie was it being used for?
>>>
>>>Its for a movie called "Stealth" that comes out next year..plot sounds
>>>like Knight Rider with jet planes.
>>
>>The movie is "Stealth" and it comes out 7/29/05. The aircraft was
>>filmed on the deck of the aircraft carrier "Abraham Lincoln". The
>>aircraft is a "Talon" controlled by AI pilot who gets out of control
>>and starts to destroy stuff. Two other pilots are sent in to destroy
>>the aircraft.
>>
>
> "Knight Rider with jet planes" probably ain't far off the mark, given
> that the director/writer, Rob Cohen, was responsible for "Knight Rider
> 2010". He's better known recently for directing "The Fast and the
> Furious" and "XXX", both movies with lots of testosterone and very
> little plot. Oh yeah, and the *nudge* *wink* treatment of Skull & Bones,
> everyone's favorite Yalie "secret society", "The Skulls" (2000).
>
> -Marc
>
Oh yeah, and there's lots more pictures dating from about mid-June (if
your news server archives that far back) over in
alt.binaries.pictures.military.

-Marc

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