Re: Dr. Strangelove

[James Lane]

"Animals can be bred, and *slaughtered*!"

[Andrew Chaplin]

James Lane wrote:
>
> "Animals can be bred, and *slaughtered*!"

Anachronism: "Will you have fries with that?" :^)
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

[BUFDRVR]

Andrew Chaplin wrote:

>I'm glad to see I am not alone in enjoying what has to be the blackest
>comedy ever produced in the English language.

Its a must watch for every B-52 crewmember. Luckily for me, I liked the movie
even before I was qualified in B-52s. I had head start ;)


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[Leslie Swartz]

Actually, Art, I would have guessed your favorite was "Triumph of the Will"
by Reifenstahl.

More aligned with your current political views.

Steve swartz



"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove
> >From: Howard Berkowitz
> >Date: 8/6/2004 5:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >In article >,
> (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
> >
> >> (WalterM140) wrote in message
> >> >...
> >> >
> >> > "Dr. Strangelove" makes quite a counterpoint with "Fail Safe" made a
> >> > couple of
> >> > years later.
> >> >
> >>
> >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058083/
> >>
> >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/
> >>
> >> I *thought* "Dr Stangelove" was a parody of "Fail-Safe".
> >
> >
> >No, it was based on another novel, Red Alert, which was not especially a
> >parody. Its author did write the screenplay. The novel was more
> >reminiscent of Fail-Safe, with a desperate attempt to stop accidental
> >war.
> >
>
> I think Catch 22 is the greatest war parody ever written. Well maybe
after
> The Good Soldier Schweik.
>
>
>
>
> Arthur Kramer
> 344th BG 494th BS
> England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
>

[Paul A. Suhler]

Guy Alcala > wrote:
>There have long been claims that Kubrick based Strangelove at least partly on
>Henry the K. (he got the hair right), the other relatively well-known figure at
>the time. Of course, Kissenger's bio is about the opposite of Strangelove's,
>who has more in common with Werner Von Braun (which gives me an excuse to post
>the lyrics of the Tom Lehrer song):
>

And the other candidate is Edward Teller. I read an interview
that he gave in the last year of his life and the interviewer
asked about it a couple of times. Finally Teller threatened
to end the interview if he heard the word "Strangelove" one
more time.

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove
>From: (Paul A. Suhler)
>Date: 8/9/2004 5:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Guy Alcala > wrote:
>>There have long been claims that Kubrick based Strangelove at least partly
>on
>>Henry the K. (he got the hair right), the other relatively well-known figure
>at
>>the time. Of course, Kissenger's bio is about the opposite of
>Strangelove's,
>>who has more in common with Werner Von Braun (which gives me an excuse to
>post
>>the lyrics of the Tom Lehrer song):
>>
>
>And the other candidate is Edward Teller. I read an interview
>that he gave in the last year of his life and the interviewer
>asked about it a couple of times. Finally Teller threatened
>to end the interview if he heard the word "Strangelove" one
>more time.
>


I am certain ir was Edward Teller. I heard him lecture one evening at the New
School in NY where I was teaching at the time. Teller was lecturing on Theory
of Relativity. It was an illustrated three hour lecture and all I could think
of as he spoke was Strangelove.. But the line he ended the lecture with
brought the entire audience in that large lecture hall to their feet. His
lastline was, "Zee trupple mit science ficshun is es ist zu unimaginatif" The
crowd exploded applause After the lecture I went upto Teller and said,, Herr
Doctor Professor Ich danke sehr fur das.. He replied bowing slightly from the
waist with, : "Ich bedanke mich" German speakers will understand the formality
and elegance of his reply..Yup. He was Strangelove.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Eunometic]

(Peter Stickney) wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> (ArtKramr) writes:
> >>Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove
> >>From: (Paul A. Suhler)
> >>Date: 8/9/2004 5:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >>Message-id: >
> >>
> >>Guy Alcala > wrote:
> >>>There have long been claims that Kubrick based Strangelove at least partly
> on
> >>>Henry the K. (he got the hair right), the other relatively well-known figure
> at
> >>>the time. Of course, Kissenger's bio is about the opposite of
> Strangelove's,
> >>>who has more in common with Werner Von Braun (which gives me an excuse to
> post
> >>>the lyrics of the Tom Lehrer song):
> >>>
> >>
> >>And the other candidate is Edward Teller. I read an interview
> >>that he gave in the last year of his life and the interviewer
> >>asked about it a couple of times. Finally Teller threatened
> >>to end the interview if he heard the word "Strangelove" one
> >>more time.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I am certain ir was Edward Teller. I heard him lecture one evening at the New
> > School in NY where I was teaching at the time. Teller was lecturing on Theory
> > of Relativity. It was an illustrated three hour lecture and all I could think
> > of as he spoke was Strangelove.. But the line he ended the lecture with
> > brought the entire audience in that large lecture hall to their feet. His
> > lastline was, "Zee trupple mit science ficshun is es ist zu unimaginatif" The
> > crowd exploded applause After the lecture I went upto Teller and said,, Herr
> > Doctor Professor Ich danke sehr fur das.. He replied bowing slightly from the
> > waist with, : "Ich bedanke mich" German speakers will understand the formality
> > and elegance of his reply..Yup. He was Strangelove.
>
>
> Strangelove was, according the Peter Sellers, based on an amalgam of
> Henry Kissenger, Wehrner von Braun, Edward Teller, and WeeGee. a
> German Photorapher in Manhatten. A lot of it also seems to have come
> from the German characters that Sellers voiced when he was doing "The
> Goon Show" radio series for teh BBC in the 1950s. (Most notably the
> fiendish Dr. Hans Eidelberger and his Horsehair Zeppelin.)


Wasn't a bit of Curtiss LeMay in there? Afterall LeMay was seriously
preparing SAC to fight a pre-emptive nuclear war against the USSR and
win without any harm comming to the USA. That's why the USA had SAC,
SAGE, F102's, Mach 3.2 YF12s, B47s,B52s,B58s,XB70s Safeguard, Spartan
and Sprint.

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove
>From: Ed Majden
>Date: 8/10/2004 11:18 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>in article , ArtKramr at
wrote on 8/10/04 18:12:
>
>> I met him when I was writing a ,monthly column for Modern Photography on
>view
>> cameras called " The View from Kramer" and we became fast friends for many
>> years. I lost touch with him when he went to Hollywood. to make The Naked
>> City.
>>
>>
>> Arthur Kramer
>
>Hello Art:
> I do recall reading the column in Modern Photography but did not
>associate the name with you. I'm a bit of a photo buff myself. Just picked
>up a used Hassy 500 EL/M commemorating 20 years in Space and the Mercury
>program. Just like new!
>Ed
>
>

Great camera. Love 'em. Enjoy it. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

[Jack]

[on r.a.m.]

ArtKramr wrote:

> I knew WEEGEE personally and he was a very good friend of mine for
> many yeras. A photo I took of him is now in a number of museum and
> university collections. And he was as German as apple pie. And was
> born in Brooklyn which was his only accent. If you want to see the
> shot give me an e-mail address and I'll send you a copy.

Send one over here, Art.

Nothing against the anticipated quality of your photography, but I can't
imagine any photo _of_ WEEGEE being as interesting as the photos _by_
WEEGEE, at least to the readers of r.a.m. (blood-thirsty lot that we
are). ;)


Jack

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove
>From: Steve Hix
>Date: 8/11/2004 6:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>In article >,
> Howard Berkowitz > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> (ArtKramr) wrote:
>>
>> > >Well, it is a small world, thinking about your column and patting my
>> > >Omega 4x5.
>> >
>> > Don't tell me you were reader of my column. Small world indeed
>> >
>> I confess. Regularly.
>>
>> To the group: I never made the connection, but Art is a fine writer and
>> teacher of photography.
>
>I regularly read his large-format column. Gave me lots of ideas, which
>at the time I seldom had enough disposable income to experiment with on
>with my old Seneca 5x7. Good writer.
>

Thank you. It is nice to be remembered
((:->))



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer