Definitive website that proves Bush was AWOL

[Laura Bush murdered her boy friend]

Huge amount of information here complete with copies of the documents
that prove Bush deserted like the yellow dog he is.

http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

[Vaughn]

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message
om...

Frankly, this has been discussed to death and I think everybody pretty much
knows the score. It is time for you OT, cross-posting, political spamming slime
to get a life; or at least find an interesting subject.

[Crazy Bastard]

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message
om...
> Huge amount of information here complete with copies of the documents
> that prove Bush deserted like the yellow dog he is.
> http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

If he was AWOL why wasn't he punished?

If he wasn't punished then he didn't break any laws or regulations.

End of story.

[Frenchurian Candidate John F*ing Kerry]

May 04, 2004, 4:26 p.m.
Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out
The medical description of his first wound.

By Byron York

Some critics of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have questioned
the circumstances surrounding the first of three Purple Hearts Kerry won in
Vietnam. Those critics, among them some of Kerry's fellow veterans, have
suggested that a wound suffered by Kerry in December 1968 may have made him
technically eligible for a Purple Heart but was not severe enough to warrant
serious consideration, even for a decoration that was handed out by the
thousands. Whatever the case, Kerry was awarded the Purple Heart, and, along
with two others he won later, it allowed him to request to leave Vietnam
before his tour of duty was finished.

Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay. The
doctor who treated Kerry, Louis Letson, is today a retired general
practitioner in Alabama. Letson says he remembers his brief encounter with
Kerry 35 years ago because "some of his crewmen related that Lt. Kerry had
told them that he would be the next JFK from Massachusetts." Letson says
that last year, as the Democratic campaign began to heat up, he told friends
that he remembered treating one of the candidates many years ago. In
response to their questions, Letson says, he wrote down his recollections of
the time. (Letson says he has had no contacts with anyone from the Bush
campaign or the Republican party.) What follows is Letson's memory, as he
wrote it.

I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the
Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.

John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in
Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up
near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility,
for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that
night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving
small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this
enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but
that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore.
The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting
from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the
skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and
was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from
a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with
forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require
probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not
require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was
any reported damage to the boat.

[Laura Bush murdered her boy friend]

"Vaughn" > wrote in message >...
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message
> om...
>
> Frankly, this has been discussed to death and I think everybody pretty much
> knows the score. It is time for you OT, cross-posting, political spamming slime
> to get a life; or at least find an interesting subject.

Hell very few people know the score. They've heard the issue but they
don't know who's telling the truth. This website settles it.

[WalterM140]

>If he was AWOL why wasn't he punished?

Political and family influence.

It's clear now that Bush failed to satisfactorily complete his service.
Records have been destroyed and fabricated to cover this up.

Walt

[WalterM140]

>Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay.

That's @ 100 miles from the Mekong Delta.

It's a long way to go for a bandaid.

Walt

[BUFDRVR]

WalterM140 wrote:

>Records have been destroyed and fabricated to cover this up.

Another vast right wing conspiracy huh?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[IBM]

(WalterM140) wrote in
:

>>If he was AWOL why wasn't he punished?
>
> Political and family influence.
>
> It's clear now that Bush failed to satisfactorily complete his service.
> Records have been destroyed and fabricated to cover this up.

Sez you.
And of course your credentials as regards verifiable facts are
impeccable?
Unless you can document in unambiguous terms what you are claiming,
you've got jack and your rhetoric is like unto that which procedeth
from the south end of a north bound horse.

IBM

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[IBM]

(WalterM140) wrote in
:

>>Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay.
>
> That's @ 100 miles from the Mekong Delta.

OK, I'll stipulate that.

> It's a long way to go for a bandaid.

Which raises interesting questions about Trotskerry's
location when the alleged injuries were incurred.

Of course release of his military records might
lay all doubts to rest

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[Jack]

WalterM140 wrote:

>>Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay.

> That's @ 100 miles from the Mekong Delta.
> It's a long way to go for a bandaid.

Perhaps you should look at the map. You will find Nha Trang to be ~40k
N. of CRB.

>> John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat,
>> newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2,
>> he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area.
>> The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility,
>> for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

Apparently it wasn't too far to go for 1/3 of an early out.


Jack

[WalterM140]

>> It's clear now that Bush failed to satisfactorily complete his service.
>> Records have been destroyed and fabricated to cover this up.
>
> Sez you.
> And of course your credentials as regards verifiable facts are
impeccable?

They are good enough.

Analysis of the payroll records show that he did not attend/make up at least
five drills.

Other factoids:

Bush was inducted in May, 1968, but not released until November, 1974. That
is what his "military biography" says. Why was he held over his six year
commtment?

What happened to the results of the mandatory Board of Inquiry into his being
grounded?

Those of you who voted for Bush in 2000, and support him now -- you were
duped.

8/7/2004

"Official confirms Bush should have been on active duty after failing to train
at Harvard

By John Byrne | Raw Story Editor

In yet another stunning indictment of President George W. Bush’s failure to
complete his required military service, a senior Reagan defense official
confirmed that Bush should have been placed on active duty when he failed to
find a Guard unit to serve with after tranferring to Massachusetts to attend
Harvard Business school.

When asked if Bush should have been put on active duty when he failed to find
another unit to train with, Korb said, “Yes.”

The Air Force has declined to comment after being reached several times during
the last three days.

Bush began classes at Harvard in September 1973, and tranferred out of the
Texas Air National Guard in October. After receiving his discharge papers,
which were postmarked October 16, he was assigned to the Air Reserve Personnel
Center (the default non-location based assignment center).

He then had 60 days to find a new unit. He didn’t.

Under regulations, he was then absent without leave for a second time, the
first being for five months in 1972.

He would remain so until he was put in an executive officer support position on
March 7, 1974. He is then listed as being on active status, although there are
no orders or documents to account for why he had changed positions and had been
reactivated.

Nor was he qualified for this position, which under Air Force Regulations,
mandates a full year of training. Moreover, he did not serve in any executive
position while training as a pilot.

More importantly, however, Bush never showed up for another drill ever again.
The last drill he completed credited him though September 1973 – a little
more than five years into his six-year requirement, which should have ended in
May of 1974.

“You have an obligation,” Korb asserted. “Back then if you joined the
Guard you had to go into a selected reserve for six years.”

The only explanation for such a gross violation of military regulations was for
someone to have “fixed” Bush’s status, put him in a position for which he
was not qualified, and eventually discharged him.

But it would have been impossible for Bush to have actually fulfilled his
six-year service requirement."

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=178

More:



8/3/2004

Air Force appears to discharge Bush after discovering he was AWOL

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

New research confirmed by RAW STORY and verified with federal law and military
regulations, indicates that in late 1973 or early 1974, the United States Air
Force, which supervises and whose jurisdiction supercedes the Air National
Guard, attempted to discharge then-Lieutenant George W. Bush."

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=177

It's clear Bush did not complete his commitment satisfactorily.

Hopefully the Press will actually start to do their jobs, finally.

Karl Rove unleashing the Swift Boats Vets is going to bite the Bush campaign in
the butt.

Walt

[drc]

IBM > wrote in message >...
> (WalterM140) wrote in
> :
>
> >>Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay.
> >
> > That's @ 100 miles from the Mekong Delta.
>
> OK, I'll stipulate that.
>
> > It's a long way to go for a bandaid.
>
> Which raises interesting questions about Trotskerry's
> location when the alleged injuries were incurred.
>
> Of course release of his military records might
> lay all doubts to rest
>
> IBM

Guys - you didn't read this very carefully. Kerry was up around Cam
Rahn Bay at the time he was wounded. Actually the stuff I have seen
says he had a months training up there before heading for his
assignment.
>
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[IBM]

(WalterM140) wrote in
:

[snip]

> They are good enough.

They are non-existent.

> Analysis of the payroll records show that he did not attend/make up at
> least five drills.

You can't find them in other words.
DOD is happy with the record.

> Other factoids:

Factoid. Like unto a fact but not quite up to snuff.

> Bush was inducted in May, 1968, but not released until November, 1974.
> That is what his "military biography" says. Why was he held over his
> six year commtment?

And of course this is highly unusual?
Sez you....

> What happened to the results of the mandatory Board of Inquiry into
> his being grounded?

Mandatory?
Sez you....
And we are supposed to accept your say-so why exactly?

> Those of you who voted for Bush in 2000, and support him now -- you
> were duped.

No, we prevented the Dhimmicreeps from stealing the election.

[drivel snipped]

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[WalterM140]

>WalterM140 wrote:
>
>>Records have been destroyed and fabricated to cover this up.
>
>Another vast right wing conspiracy huh?
>

Yes.

Walt

[David W. Poole, Jr.]

(Laura Bush murdered her boy friend) wrote in message >...
> "Vaughn" > wrote in message >...
> > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message
> > om...
> >
> > Frankly, this has been discussed to death and I think everybody pretty much
> > knows the score. It is time for you OT, cross-posting, political spamming slime
> > to get a life; or at least find an interesting subject.
>
> Hell very few people know the score. They've heard the issue but they
> don't know who's telling the truth. This website settles it.

You know, perhaps if you got a job, as opposed to living off of
disability, you might not be so miserable.

[Cub Driver]

>> Analysis of the payroll records show that he did not attend/make up at
>> least five drills.
>
> You can't find them in other words.
> DOD is happy with the record.

Are they still on about that? Bush actually attended more drills in
his last two years than were expected of him. See
www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm for an analysis of his military
service that takes into account all the paranoid stuff that has been
posted and published on this subject.

The common thread I find in the anti-Bush articles and web pages is an
almost complete ignorance of military procedure. For example, you will
find breathless pointing to the fact that he "was ordered" to attend a
weekend of training, misunderstanding the statement that he "got
orders" for the drill--in other words, he received authorization.

Another instance: your ditsy interlocutor points with shock to the
fact that Bush served six months EXTRA! Omigod! Surely this proves
something?

Sure, it proves that he spent 12 months in the inactive reserve in
exchange for having 6 months chopped off his Guard duty.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Expedition sailboat charters www.expeditionsail.com

[WalterM140]

>Guys - you didn't read this very carefully. Kerry was up around Cam
>Rahn Bay at the time he was wounded. Actually the stuff I have seen
>says he had a months training up there before heading for his
>assignment.
>>

You're absolutely right.

Walt

[WalterM140]

>Another instance: your ditsy interlocutor points with shock to the
>fact that Bush served six months EXTRA! Omigod! Surely this proves
>something?

Yes. It indicates that he skipped five monthly drills and didn't make them up,
which is what the recently released DOD records -conclusively- show.

Walt

[WalterM140]

>Sure, it proves that he spent 12 months in the inactive reserve in
>exchange for having 6 months chopped off his Guard duty.

No, it's all out now.

The records released by the DOD recently show conclusively that Bush failed to
attend or make up five drills. And there's more.

"A RESEARCHER UNCOVERS THE FACTS

As it turned out, the key was a willingness to dive deep into these documents,
and knowing how to read them. Rove counted on the essential laziness and
ignorance of ordinary mainstream reporters, who wouldn't be aware of what all
those military codes and numbers and jargon-terms meant.

Once again, as in so many other areas, the "underground" journalists - in our
time, those working on the internet - rode to the rescue. On this issue, the
energy and laser-like focus came from one Paul Lukasiak of Philadelphia.

It turns out that, unlike the great majority of ordinary journalists, Lukasiak
was undaunted by the hundreds of pages of dry military records distributed by
the White House. He was a bloodhound on the hunt. And, he possessed some
experience in working with old documents, especially old military punch-card
records from 30 years ago.

In a recent email, Lukasiak described how he pieced the story together:


I spent a couple of months reading the statutes, DoD regulation, and Air Force
policies and procedures, and spent a great deal of time figuring out the rest
of the payroll records and 'points records' themselves. Having acquired a
certain amount of knowledge, the nature and the meaning of the pattern in the
payroll data became self-evident....Just by looking at the data lines found in
the payroll records, there are obvious patterns that anyone could detect.

And so, piece by piece, Lukasiak pulled together the jigsaw puzzle that was
George W. Bush's long-ago, much-abbreviated military service. And, lo and
behold, he figured it out. His four months of research led him to a number of
incendiary conclusions, documented with his meticulous research, which were
picked up by a relatively small number of online websites - Corrente, Kevin
Drum, Democrats.com, The Crisis Papers. For example, here's what Lukasiak
furnished The Crisis Papers, as a way of summing up his four months of
research; the emphasis is supplied:

BUSH'S SERVICE WAS "MISREPRESENTED"

An examination of U.S. Statutory Law, Department of Defense Regulations, and
Air Force policies and procedures from the early seventies proves that George
W. Bush and his spokesmen have consistently misrepresented the nature and
extent of his obligations as a member of the United States armed forces.

When considered within their proper legal and policy context, the Bush records
effectively rebut the White House claim that Bush 'fulfilled his duty.' When
considered as a whole, these documents reveal that Bush spent the last two
years of his six-year Military Service Obligation in an active effort to avoid
fulfilling the obligations and commitments he incurred upon entering the Texas
Air National Guard.

They also show that while some Texas officials aided and abetted Bush's efforts
(and others apparently acquiesced to what was happening), there is no reason to
question the character of Alabama officials, or Air Reserve Forces personnel as
a whole. Finally, the only conclusion that can be reached from an examination
of Bush's records for the period after he quit the Air National Guard is that
the Air Force attempted to take punitive measures against Bush, but that
political pressure prevented those measures from being carried out.

Lawrence Korb - who was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower, Reserve
Affairs, Installations and Logistics under Reagan from 1981-85 - appears to
agree with the conclusion based on the key five-month period of Bush's service
when there are no records that he reported for duty: "If you don't show up,
you're absent without leave, by definition."

Dynamite stuff, yes? "

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/08/12_awol.html

Aniother link:

http://www.glcq.com/

"On February 10. 2004, the White House released a number of documents[1]
related to George W. Bush’s military service in the Texas Air National Guard.
(TXANG). The White House claimed repeatedly (twelve time in fact, see box)
that these documents proved that Bush had fulfilled his duty.


In fact, not only did those documents fail to prove that Bush had “fulfilled
his duties”, they prove the opposite.


On Friday, February 13, 2004, the White House released what it described as all
the documents[2] in Bush’s personnel files. Most accurately described as a
“document dump” the hundreds of pages were thoroughly disorganized and
filled with scores of duplicate pages.


The mainstream press was confronted with this massive amount of information to
sift through, and had no expertise with which to evaluate the information
contained in the documents. As a result, virtually no real reporting was done
on the documents, other than to state that there was “no smoking gun”
found, apparently because none of the documents announced in bold type “BUSH
WAS AWOL”.

But the records released by the White House contained more than a “smoking
gun”. They contained a whole arsenal of documents that, if you know the
context in which they were written, establish beyond a shadow of a doubt that
“Bush was AWOL.”


These documents include:

1) “Points” records showing that for two straight years, Bush did not
perform the training that was mandated by law, and which could not be excused
by his superior officers. (See The Points Scam)

2) Payroll records showing that Bush requested and received pay and point
credit for which he was ineligible under Air Force policy (See Fraud—The
Secrets of Bush’s Payroll Records Revealed)

3) Documents related to Bush’s attempted transfer to the “9921st Air
Reserve Squadron” showing that the request was an attempt by Bush to
fraudulently escape his obligations as a member of the United States Armed
Forces (See The Transfer Scam)

4) Documents showing that Bush’s superior officers attempted to cover up
for Bush being “AWOL”, but eventually had to admit that they had lost track
of Bush for an entire year. (See The Cover-up in Texas).

5) Documents showing that Bush intended to desert the Armed Forces with
almost a year of his statutory six year participation requirement unfulfilled
(See Discharge, or Desertion?)

6) Documents showing that the Air Force understood that Bush was a
“deserter”, and had taken the steps necessary to deal with someone in
Bush’s position who had abandoned their commitment to the US Government. See
(Deserter: Bush After TXANG)

The Bush documents also reveal that

1) Bush’s personnel files were tampered with to disguise what had
occurred.

2) The person upon whom the media has relied upon for its interpretation of
Bush’s military records (an individual who was specifically engaged by the
2000 Bush campaign to “clear” Bush) was directly involved in providing Bush
with favorable treatment as a member of the Texas Air National Guard, and

3) This person has lied about the nature of Bush’s records, and made
claims regarding Bush’s obligations as a member of the United States Armed
Forces that have absolutely no basis in fact

For the past four years, Bush and his supporters have done everything in their
power to obscure the facts concerning Bush’s military service. This series
will reveal those facts, and in the process, reveal the character of George W.
Bush, and those who defend and support him."


Walt

[Cub Driver]

>|Yes. It indicates that he skipped five monthly drills and didn't make them up,
>|which is what the recently released DOD records -conclusively- show.

What monthly drills? That's not how the system worked. See
www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm for a study of Bush's record, along
with the link comment on the nitty gritty of Guard training,
www.warbirdforum.com/guard.htm

I've looked at everything posted on the web on this subject (most of
it, of course, on anti-Bush sites), and his record looks good to me.
Much of the detail is to be found on the same sites that slime his
Guard service. The posters just don't understand what they are
reading, because they've never been in the military and don't
understand the argot. ("Cleared the post" and "received orders" are
especially likely to be misunderstood.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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[WalterM140]

>>|Yes. It indicates that he skipped five monthly drills and didn't make them
>up,
>>|which is what the recently released DOD records -conclusively- show.
>
>What monthly drills? That's not how the system worked.

I was in the reserves myself. I know how it works.

You may not have seen this:

"There are two medals awarded to members of the Texas National Guard basically
for showing up:

Texas Govt Code 431.134 Para 1
Texas Faithful Service Medal

The Texas Faithful Service Medal shall be awarded to a member of the state
military forces who has completed five years of honorable service during which
the person has shown fidelity to duty, efficient service, and great loyalty to
the state.

and


Texas Govt Code 431.134 Para 5
Texas State Guard Service Medal

The Texas State Guard Service Medal, shall be awarded to a person completing
three consecutive years of honorable service in the Texas State Guard during
which the person has shown fidelity to duty, efficient service, and great
loyalty to the state.

According to his ANG22 (The Air National Guard discharge papers), Bush received
*NO* Texas National Guard Medals.

This means he did not faithfully execute his duty for five years in the TANG.
He also did not even faithfully execute his duty for *three* years in the TANG.
This supports the AWOL charges.

Furthermore, in the following photograph he wears two Air Force ribbons, Air
Force Outstanding Unit Award, and the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon :

[here's the photo]

http://subvulture.com/goteam/george_bush_uniform.jpg

Neither of which show up on this line of his ARG22:

http://www.awolbush.com/images/BushANG22-box24.gif?CLIC...


Assuming Bush was wearing authorized awards, here is a comparison of Kerry and
Bush's awards records:


I have verified the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award and Air Force Small Arms
Expert Marksmanship ribbon only via a photograph of George W. Bush. Other Air
Force awards can only be verified if Bush releases his DD214.

Top to bottom, left to right as you look at them

Kerry:

Silver Star (Verified via DD214)
Bronze Star (Should have Bronze Combat "V" Device, Verified via DD214)
Purple Heart (Should have two Gold Star devices for subsequent awards, Verified
via DD214)
Combat Action Ribbon (Verified via DD214)
Presidential Unit Citation (Verified via DD215, worn above left pocket per Navy
regs)
Navy Unit Commendation (Verified via DD215)
National Defense Service Medal (Verified via DD214)
Vietnam Service Medal(Verified via DD214, w/four bronze star devices verified
via DD215)
Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation (Verified via DD215)
Republic of Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation (Verified via DD215)
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (Verified via DD215)

Dubya:

Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (verified via photograph only)
Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (verified via photograph only)

Comparing in order of precedence, The Air Force Outstanding Unit Award falls
below Kerry's Navy Unit Commendation and above his National Defense Service
Medal. The Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon falls between Kerry's Vietnam
Service Medal and his Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation."

http://democraticunderground.com

So for some reason, the photo of Bush in uniform as a lieutenant shows ribbons
that don't appear on his discharge (which of course he didn't sign).

This is more evidence that Bush's discharge papers and other documents are post
facto constructs.

Strong circumstantial evidence on awolbush.com indicates that Bush was actually
ordered to active duty for failure to attend scheduled monthly drills, and
failing to report for active duty, declared a deserter.


Walt

[SSG Dodd]

(WalterM140) wrote in message >...
> I was in the reserves myself. I know how it works.

Sorry chief, not in this case.

>
> You may not have seen this:
>
> "There are two medals awarded to members of the Texas National Guard basically
> for showing up:
>
> Texas Govt Code 431.134 Para 1
> Texas Faithful Service Medal
>
> The Texas Faithful Service Medal shall be awarded to a member of the state
> military forces who has completed five years of honorable service during which
> the person has shown fidelity to duty, efficient service, and great loyalty to
> the state.
>
> and
>
>
> Texas Govt Code 431.134 Para 5
> Texas State Guard Service Medal
>
> The Texas State Guard Service Medal, shall be awarded to a person completing
> three consecutive years of honorable service in the Texas State Guard during
> which the person has shown fidelity to duty, efficient service, and great
> loyalty to the state.
>
> According to his ANG22 (The Air National Guard discharge papers), Bush received
> *NO* Texas National Guard Medals.
>
> This means he did not faithfully execute his duty for five years in the TANG.
> He also did not even faithfully execute his duty for *three* years in the TANG.
> This supports the AWOL charges.

No, it most certainly does not.

Item 1: The Texas State Guard Service Medal is restricted to members
of the Texas State Guard, the authorized state militia that has
existed since 1941. It cannot be federalized, and is indeed separate
from the Texas Army National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard.
Check the Texas State Code - the state military forces of Texas are
composed of the Texas National Guard (Army & Air), and the Texas State
Guard. Awarding Bush the TXSGSM for his service in the TXANG is like
awarding Kerry the Air Medal for his Navy service - it is a non
sequitar.

Item 2: I know from personal experience that awards of either medal
may take years to be processed, IF EVER. Both are processed through
the Adjutant General's Department for ALL state military forces. I
know of at least 3 instances where individuals finally received their
first award of the TXFSM after having already served 10-15 years in
the TXARNG.

The fact is, while both awards may be considered automatically
awarded, that is rarely the case - even today.

So, with all due respect, your argument holds zero weight. Please
check your facts before posting again.

[WalterM140]

>So, with all due respect, your argument holds zero weight. Please
>check your facts before posting again.

The Texas medals are only part of it, but nice try.

Bush's photo shows ribbons that don't appear on his discharge papers. This
suggests that his discharge was provided post facto. Add to that the fact that
he -didn't- sign his discharge and it raises a legitmate question.

Even more odd, one of the ribbons he is wearing is a unit award. No unit he
ever served in received such an award.

Walt

[SSG Dodd]

(WalterM140) wrote in message >...
> >So, with all due respect, your argument holds zero weight. Please
> >check your facts before posting again.
>
> The Texas medals are only part of it, but nice try.
>
> Bush's photo shows ribbons that don't appear on his discharge papers. This
> suggests that his discharge was provided post facto. Add to that the fact that
> he -didn't- sign his discharge and it raises a legitmate question.
>
> Even more odd, one of the ribbons he is wearing is a unit award. No unit he
> ever served in received such an award.
>
> Walt

Walt,

Actually, one *does* appear on his papers. Look here:

http://www.glcq.com/docs/unscribbled_11.htm

SAEMR - Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon

As for the other ribbon, the unit he was attached to - the 147th FIG -
was awarded the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA) three times,
once in 1966, once in 1975 and once again in 1982. This award is a
UNIT award, not a personal award. It is common for personnel to wear
the unit award for the duration of their assignment to the unit so
awarded.

Regards,

Tom