Newps wrote:



Ben Hallert wrote:



I'll go out on a limb and guess it's because of one of these stated
benefits from pipermods.com:
" # LOWER STALL 5 mph
# IMPROVE LOW SPEED HANDLING
# IMPROVE SHORT FIELD PERFORMANCE
# IMPROVE PERFORMANCE AT GROSS WEIGHT
# IMPROVE CRUISE 3 - 7 mph
# INCREASE IN TOP SPEED"

If you're familiar with the reasons someone might want to buy them
(considering your past posts, I know you are) but have knowledge about
why it would be a bad idea or doesn't do what it claims, then, with
respect, why be a jerk about it? Just tell us why it's dumb already
without stringing us along. I'm hoping to buy a Warrior II soon
myself, and I'm studying all the mods to see what flies and what dies.


You cannot lower stall and increase cruise with one mod, pure hype. VG's
do lower stall. I had them on my 182 and have them now on my Bonanza.
They lower the stall about 3-5 mph on my Bo. You will lose a little
cruise speed and top speed, aprrox 3-5 mph. If they didn't lower cruise
what they're really saying is that they don't add any drag. If they
didn't add drag you wouldn't have to glue them on, they'd just sit
there. As for the low speed handling and gross weight performance that
is subjective. I have 1000 hours in 182's and could never tell any
difference in flying qualities. One thing you will notice is that if
you were to go to altitude and get into a power off 45 degree bank, full
back stick turn. When the airplane stalls if you do not have VG's the
plane will always roll to the high wing side. With VG's the plane does
not roll at all but simply descends at approx 1500 fpm. Having said all
that there's no reason to put them on a Warrior. The Warrior has no
performance to start with. All you would succeed in doing is to slow
yourself down.


If VG's are really only to improve stall characteristics, they don't
seem worth it in this case because Warriors already have pretty benign
stall characteristics.

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