On Sep 16, 11:24*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 15, 8:04*pm, wrote:

You said you were going to buy a LSA, not build one, which means the
airworthiness certificate would be invalid.

There are numerous LSA's which you can buy near completion,
then finish them, becoming the builder on record, and still meet
the 50-50 rule.

It is called the 51% rule, not the 50-50 rule.

Technicality.

Last I looked there are no kit LSA's which meet the 51% rule for the
simple reason that the 51% rule does not apply to kit built LSA's.

Yes, I have personal knowledge of this.

Actually what came to mind is the scenerio where companies like
Arion and some other's have Builder Assist. I have encountered
unfinished projects for sale.

The RV-12 may, but it isn't available yet so that is unknown.

And to be the builder and meet the 51% rule, you have to do 51% of the
work, not buy something 98% complete and just do the last 2%.

That isn't what Nick Otterback, Arion's product development manager
told me when I asked him in person. The final authority would be the
FAA, but thus far I have been told different.

If you build one and invalidate it as a LSA, now you have to go to the
FAA and somehow get the thing cerificated as an exprimental after the
fact. *Good luck on that.

What's an exprimental? *New category?

Experimental is what most people call the airplanes that the FAA calls
amateur built which get as label saying "experimental" on them.

Grin, I was just messing with you. Your spelling and grammar
are consistently off, i.e., you'd properly say "an" LSA, not "a" LSA.
I probably know every experimental plane there is. You wrote...
"exprimental", and "cerificated". That's baby gibberish.

If you actually knew anything about aviation you would know that.

I could easily say, "if you weren't a pin-head my spelling correction
wouldn't have escaped you", but you've been respectful lately and
deserve the same. A little humor is like a little salt. Adds flavor.

Jim logajan posts:
2) Also, for the record, the FAA speed requirement for LSA has some
important qualifiers that allow LSA airplanes to legally travel faster
than
120 kts.

No one but you ever said anything about them not being able to.

No. You said it wasn't allowed.

No, I said you are not allowed to modify the airplane in such a way that
the max cruise speed at sea level is greater than 120 kts.

While that is correct, you're official position now has been modified
to be so. No matter. Let's move on.

Actually, you are not allowed to modify anything on a LSA.

The manufacturer will dictate that. (remember..."an" LSA).
A further examination of allowances is worthwhile. Many flight
schools that only offer PP certification are approaching
illiteracy on this subject.

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Mark

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Jim Pennino