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Just today, I received the below notice from the FAA. I thought this
was a "done deal" more than a year ago? Vaughn New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders Notice Number: NOTC3762 New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders In a notice issued on March 7, 2012, the FAA will now offer transponder code 1202 for glider pilots to use when not in contact with ATC. The new code will help ATC differentiate gliders, which have unique flight and maneuvering limitations, from other VFR traffic. An accident, many incidents, and a National Transportation Safety Board recommendation highlight the need for a national beacon code for gliders that are operating VFR and not in contact with ATC. ATC personnel will be informed of the code, what it represents, and under what limitations the users are typically operating (e.g., unable to hold a requested altitude). Several codes considered in the past have conflicted with other operations. May all your experiences be uplifting! Bryan Neville, AFS-850 FAA Safety Team |
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On Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:30:29 PM UTC-6, Vaughn wrote:
Just today, I received the below notice from the FAA. I thought this was a "done deal" more than a year ago? Vaughn 7110.66E hasn't been published yet (national beacon/code assignments), which is why the change was omitted from the Feb 9th 7110.65U. Instead, they rolled the new 1202 code as notice JO 7110.577, delaying implementation until March 7. NOTC3762 must be an internal notice as it doesn't appear to be publicly searchable on the FAA web site. See http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...mentID/1019737 |
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On May 17, 1:30*pm, Vaughn wrote:
Just today, I received the below notice from the FAA. *I thought this was a "done deal" more than a year ago? Vaughn New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders Notice Number: NOTC3762 New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders In a notice issued on March 7, 2012, the FAA will now offer transponder code 1202 for glider pilots to use when not in contact with ATC. The new code will help ATC differentiate gliders, which have unique flight and maneuvering limitations, from other VFR traffic. An accident, many incidents, and a National Transportation Safety Board recommendation highlight the need for a national beacon code for gliders that are operating VFR and not in contact with ATC. ATC personnel will be informed of the code, what it represents, and under what limitations the users are typically operating (e.g., unable to hold a requested altitude). Several codes considered in the past have conflicted with other operations. May all your experiences be uplifting! Bryan Neville, AFS-850 FAA Safety Team You will notice that JO 7110.577 expires July 26 2012, which is the next expected publication date to get the xpndr code assignment into all of the required publications. FAA was behind in their own internal coordination for publication. 1201 was originally picked over a year ago, they (FAA) changed to 1202 because 1201 had other uses. T FAASTeam Member |
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On Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:41:54 PM UTC-6, T wrote:
On May 17, 1:30*pm, Vaughn wrote: Just today, I received the below notice from the FAA. *I thought this was a "done deal" more than a year ago? Vaughn New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders Notice Number: NOTC3762 New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders In a notice issued on March 7, 2012, the FAA will now offer transponder code 1202 for glider pilots to use when not in contact with ATC. The new code will help ATC differentiate gliders, which have unique flight and maneuvering limitations, from other VFR traffic. An accident, many incidents, and a National Transportation Safety Board recommendation highlight the need for a national beacon code for gliders that are operating VFR and not in contact with ATC. ATC personnel will be informed of the code, what it represents, and under what limitations the users are typically operating (e.g., unable to hold a requested altitude). Several codes considered in the past have conflicted with other operations. May all your experiences be uplifting! Bryan Neville, AFS-850 FAA Safety Team You will notice that JO 7110.577 expires July 26 2012, which is the next expected publication date to get the xpndr code assignment into all of the required publications. FAA was behind in their own internal coordination for publication. 1201 was originally picked over a year ago, they (FAA) changed to 1202 because 1201 had other uses. T FAASTeam Member Yep. 1201 had a smallish geographic assignment, but it was also relatively near a lot of gliding activity. Pilots should get on board with their local ARTCC's for a tour. It's changed a lot in recent years and is even now in upgrade. Quite a few young adults in training in our center. Still a lousy shift rotation if you ask me. However, we were able to watch a transponder equipped glider struggle in weak lift, then finally enter the pattern.. As our tour was ending, the glider turned final. I'd like to be in there on a really busy soaring day as we now have quite a few glider pilots flying with transponders. At the moment we have a TFR due to a still growing wild fire;^( Frank Whiteley |
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On May 17, 7:09*pm, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:41:54 PM UTC-6, T wrote: On May 17, 1:30*pm, Vaughn wrote: Just today, I received the below notice from the FAA. *I thought this was a "done deal" more than a year ago? Vaughn New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders Notice Number: NOTC3762 New VFR Transponder Code for Gliders In a notice issued on March 7, 2012, the FAA will now offer transponder code 1202 for glider pilots to use when not in contact with ATC. The new code will help ATC differentiate gliders, which have unique flight and maneuvering limitations, from other VFR traffic. An accident, many incidents, and a National Transportation Safety Board recommendation highlight the need for a national beacon code for gliders that are operating VFR and not in contact with ATC. ATC personnel will be informed of the code, what it represents, and under what limitations the users are typically operating (e.g., unable to hold a requested altitude). Several codes considered in the past have conflicted with other operations. May all your experiences be uplifting! Bryan Neville, AFS-850 FAA Safety Team You will notice that JO 7110.577 expires July 26 2012, which is the next expected publication date to get the xpndr code assignment into all of the required publications. FAA was behind in their own internal coordination for publication. 1201 was originally picked over a year ago, they (FAA) changed to 1202 because 1201 had other uses. T FAASTeam Member Yep. *1201 had a smallish geographic assignment, but it was also relatively near a lot of gliding activity. *Pilots should get on board with their local ARTCC's for a tour. *It's changed a lot in recent years and is even now in upgrade. *Quite a few young adults in training in our center. *Still a lousy shift rotation if you ask me. *However, we were able to watch a transponder equipped glider struggle in weak lift, then finally enter the pattern. *As our tour was ending, the glider turned final. *I'd like to be in there on a really busy soaring day as we now have quite a few glider pilots flying with transponders. *At the moment we have a TFR due to a still growing wild fire;^( Frank Whiteley In our busy Chicago airspace, the new 1202 code works beautifully. Twice now I came back from a x-country skirting the Aurora D-airspace and listened to the tower frequency. They must have a radar feed from Chicago approach because tower pointed out my location and altitude to ac flying in and out of Aurora. They identified me as a glider because of the special code. Of course I talked to them to let them know I'm on frequency and that I had traffic in sight. Chicago Glider Club itself is right under the Western approach into Midway via the Joliet VOR and we often have traffic right at 4-6,000' over the field. Transponders and the new code are really effective in helping ATC keeping us separated. All club gliders and 80% of private gliders are Mode-C equipped. Herb |
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On Friday, May 18, 2012 10:26:17 AM UTC-4, Herbert kilian wrote:
... All club gliders and 80% of private gliders are Mode-C equipped. Herb Thanks Herb - Hopefully all future installations will be Mode S ! Best Regards, Dave "YO electric" PS: How come you're not down here at Mifflin ? |
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