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Are there any good online references on how to brief an approach? If so, can
you point me in the right direction? Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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Gene's site always has some good info...
http://www.whittsflying.com/Pageg12%...tm#anchor47781 "Ditch" wrote in message ... Are there any good online references on how to brief an approach? If so, can you point me in the right direction? Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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Ditch,
I don't know that there's any one way or some magic to brief an approach plate. Every approach is unique. I know the first thing my instructor taught me to look at is the Name of the airport and the type of approach. From there I look at what I need to do in the order I'm going to do it. What's the ATIS/ASOS freq.? What's the final approach controller's freq.? What is the altitude and course at the IAF and how will I ID it and what is the freq? How will I ID the FAF and what is the course, altitude and freq.? What is the Tower or CTAF Freq and how will I turn on the lights? What is the MDA or DH? What is the time on the approach? How will I ID the MAP? What is the missed approach procedure and how should I set my radios up to fly it and when can I do that? What's the ground freq. if any? How will my IFR flight plan be closed? If you learn some secret pneumonic or rhyme please share it. Kobra "Ditch" wrote in message ... Are there any good online references on how to brief an approach? If so, can you point me in the right direction? Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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Ditch wrote:
Are there any good online references on how to brief an approach? If so, can you point me in the right direction? Thanks... One thing I took away from my American Flyers experience was: "How low, how long, which way?" Kinda summarizes the important stuff at the end. Of course, there's a ton that comes before this, but you are never left thinking about the MAP or missed procedure. Hilton |
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I adapted the new NOS plate format (which was copied from Jepp), and have
that on my personal briefing form (see previous thread). Then I talk to myself as I copy the info from the plate onto my form. The process of copying and talking helps me imbed it in my little chunk of grey matter. Works for me so far. "Ditch" wrote in message ... Are there any good online references on how to brief an approach? If so, can you point me in the right direction? Thanks... -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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![]() Maule Driver wrote: I adapted the new NOS plate format (which was copied from Jepp), and have that on my personal briefing form (see previous thread). For historical accuracy, NACO (formerly NOS) did not copy that format from Jeppesen. The briefing strip format was developed by a Mr. Volpe of the Dept of Transportation (not the FAA) with the help of some industry gurus. Jeppesen then adopted the Volpe Format, followed by NACO a couple or three years later. |
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Here is what I use..it is loose enough that you can modify it make it your own
but it works for me. It is kind of a briefing/set-up for the approac guide: Acronym: "A MICE ATM" A: Atis, Altimeter and approach M: marker beacon (pins and sensitivity) I: ID navaids C: Course..briefed and set E: Entry..brief PT and any set up needed A: Altitudes. Also brief callouts expected T: Times (if a timed approach) M: Missed (brief and set up in standby avionics) may sound kind of daunting but it is pretty user friendly and I have shared it with several other people who seemed to find it useful. Your mileage may vary |
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For approaches I use WestCoastRailRoad
Weather, Clearance, Radios, and Review. I'll admit its a bit short of being exhaustive. I also have an IFR checklist in the plane for takeoff, cruise, arrival and approach phases. It IS exhaustive. As for my clearance, everything goes into a radio or instrument. Frequecies go into the radios, altitudes go into the altitude bug and headings go into the heading bug and waypoints go into the GPS. Not a bad idea to write them down also, but so long as my radios work, I can always ask. The reality is I just keep a 4 1/4" x 5 1/2" (half) pad of paper and a few pens in the plane and write down what I need on that. One of the things I do have is a business card sized flight plan form, I use it all the time so I have all the info to give flight service. All I really need to jot down is my takeoff time and enroute time that I gave him when I filed (well, ok, my destination, but I usually do know that). Works great and I dont have to bring any paperwork into the FBO, just my wallet, which I always have. It all depends on how exhaustive and organized YOU want to be. Do you want to emulate the airlines, or just fly around with minimum hassle? Or somewhere in between? I only file IFR if I need to, to get where I am going. Some file IFR all the time. So my suggestion, memorize an anacronym, get several 1/2 size notepads, some pens or pencils, and business card flight plan form, and you have the minimum necessary. |
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I gotta get me one of them "anacronyms". :-)
Seriously, though, filing IFR whether needed or not is good training. Pretty soon you'll find you no longer need mnemonics and acronyms. Maybe you'll need only a place to record clearances and amendments. ---JRC--- "Doug" wrote in message = om... For approaches I use WestCoastRailRoad Weather, Clearance, Radios, and Review. I'll admit its a bit short of being exhaustive. I also have an IFR checklist in the plane for takeoff, cruise, arrival and approach phases. It IS exhaustive. As for my clearance, everything goes into a radio or instrument. Frequecies go into the radios, altitudes go into the altitude bug and headings go into the heading bug and waypoints go into the GPS. Not a bad idea to write them down also, but so long as my radios work, I can always ask. The reality is I just keep a 4 1/4" x 5 1/2" (half) pad of paper and a few pens in the plane and write down what I need on that. One of the things I do have is a business card sized flight plan form, I use it all the time so I have all the info to give flight service. All I really need to jot down is my takeoff time and enroute time that I gave him when I filed (well, ok, my destination, but I usually do know that). Works great and I dont have to bring any paperwork into the FBO, just my wallet, which I always have. =20 It all depends on how exhaustive and organized YOU want to be. Do you want to emulate the airlines, or just fly around with minimum hassle? Or somewhere in between? I only file IFR if I need to, to get where I am going. Some file IFR all the time. =20 So my suggestion, memorize an anacronym, get several 1/2 size notepads, some pens or pencils, and business card flight plan form, and you have the minimum necessary. |
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