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Checkride in about three weeks & I am trying to figure out cruise
clearance. Simple enough, cleared between the MEA and the altitude limit, but I also read somewhere that it is also used to clear you for descent into a non-ifr airport. Right? How does this work & is it something you request or does ATC just give it to you? I'm sure it is in the AIM somewhere but I couldn't find it last night. So, I thought it would be an easy thing to research on-line if I could find a searchable AIM, but I am having no luck. Non-searchable AIM on the FAA site, several searchable FAR options in my bookmarks, but no downloadable or on-line searchable AIM. Does anyone know where I can find one? tia, Geo. Anderson |
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"Geo. Anderson" wrote in message
... Checkride in about three weeks & I am trying to figure out cruise clearance. Simple enough, cleared between the MEA and the altitude It is described well enough in the Pilot/Controller Glossary in the AIM: CRUISE - Used in an ATC clearance to authorize a pilot to conduct flight at any altitude from the minimum IFR altitude up to and including the altitude specified in the clearance. The pilot may level off at any intermediate altitude within this block of airspace. Climb/descent within the block is to be made at the discretion of the pilot. However, once the pilot starts descent and verbally reports leaving an altitude in the block, he may not return to that altitude without additional ATC clearance. Further, it is approval for the pilot to proceed to and make an approach at destination airport and can be used in conjunction with: a. An airport clearance limit at locations with a standard/special instrument approach procedure. The FAR's require that if an instrument letdown to an airport is necessary, the pilot shall make the letdown in accordance with a standard/special instrument approach procedure for that airport, or b. An airport clearance limit at locations that are within/below/outside controlled airspace and without a standard/special instrument approach procedure. Such a clearance is NOT AUTHORIZATION for the pilot to descend under IFR conditions below the applicable minimum IFR altitude nor does it imply that ATC is exercising control over aircraft in Class G airspace; however, it provides a means for the aircraft to proceed to destination airport, descend, and land in accordance with applicable FAR's governing VFR flight operations. Also, this provides search and rescue protection until such time as the IFR flight plan is closed. (See Instrument Approach Procedure) -------------------- Richard Kaplan, CFII www.flyimc.com |
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On 5/31/04 12:48 PM, Richard Kaplan wrote the following:
"Geo. Anderson" wrote in message ... Checkride in about three weeks & I am trying to figure out cruise clearance. Simple enough, cleared between the MEA and the altitude It is described well enough in the Pilot/Controller Glossary in the AIM: snip Thanks. Yes, I did find those paragraphs as I continued to hunt after posting the question. But how does the controller give you one of the landing-type clearance variations? For an IFR approach, "Cruise 6000, descend and execute approach at pilot's discretion" or something like that? How about non-IFR airports, since you apparently must be VFR below the MEA? I have never been given (or for that matter, asked for) this type of a clearance. It's pure book theory for me. Geo. |
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"Geo. Anderson" wrote in message
... But how does the controller give you one of the landing-type clearance variations? For an IFR approach, "Cruise 6000, descend and execute approach at pilot's discretion" or something like that? How about non-IFR airports, since you apparently must be VFR below the MEA? Suppose KABC is a VFR-only airport. If you have filed IFR with KABC as your clearance limit and you are given the clearance "Cruise 6000" then that includes approval for you to execute a visual approach to KABC. When you arrive at KABC you may descend as low as the minimum IFR altitude. If and only if you then find yourself in VFR conditions, then you may execute a visual approach; if you are not in VFR conditions, then you may climb back up again and ask ATC for a new clearance. -------------------- Richard Kaplan, CFII www.flyimc.com |
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![]() "Geo. Anderson" wrote in message ... But how does the controller give you one of the landing-type clearance variations? For an IFR approach, "Cruise 6000, descend and execute approach at pilot's discretion" or something like that? How about non-IFR airports, since you apparently must be VFR below the MEA? A cruise clearance is an approach clearance. You get to pick the approach. I have never been given (or for that matter, asked for) this type of a clearance. It's pure book theory for me. And unless you fly to the boonies it always will be too. You will almost never see it east of the Mississippi. |
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"Richard Kaplan" wrote in message
s.com... "Geo. Anderson" wrote in message ... Checkride in about three weeks & I am trying to figure out cruise clearance. Simple enough, cleared between the MEA and the altitude It is described well enough in the Pilot/Controller Glossary in the AIM: CRUISE - Used in an ATC clearance to authorize a pilot to conduct flight at any altitude from the minimum IFR altitude up to and including the altitude specified in the clearance. The pilot may level off at any intermediate altitude within this block of airspace. Climb/descent within the block is to be made at the discretion of the pilot. However, once the pilot starts descent and verbally reports leaving an altitude in the block, he may not return to that altitude without additional ATC clearance. Further, it is approval for the pilot to proceed to and make an approach at destination airport and can be used in conjunction with: [snip] I'm working on my ifr. I've always been confused with this part about "once the pilot starts descent and verbally reports leaving an altitude in the block, he may not return to that altitude without additional ATC clearance." I'm thinking, why report leaving an altitude? That just restricts what you can do later. Or at least makes you ask for it back. What would make the pilot verbally report leaving an altitude in the block? |
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"Steven Barnes" wrote:
I'm working on my ifr. I've always been confused with this part about "once the pilot starts descent and verbally reports leaving an altitude in the block, he may not return to that altitude without additional ATC clearance." I'm thinking, why report leaving an altitude? That just restricts what you can do later. Or at least makes you ask for it back. What would make the pilot verbally report leaving an altitude in the block? For the same reason people cancel IFR once they have the airport in sight. It frees up some airspace for somebody else to use. You're not required to do so, but it's part of being a good IFR citizen. |
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