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The "Cheating the ILS" thread prompts my curiosity:
I fly with a single G430 and rarely use the map display. Almost always I am set on the Nav1 "numbers" screen, which tells me pretty much everything I need to know. I have talked to a number of commercial pilots with lots of G430 experience, and this seems to be the consensus. The tone of the OP on the "Cheating the ILS" seems to be that his use of this screen is unusual. I use the TRK number on the Nav1 screen routinely to help on ILS approaches and have never thought anything of it. I fly my best approaches this way because I do not have to cut & try to get a heading that holds the needle centered. So ... Do you normally fly looking at Nav1 or at the map? Cruise? Approaches? Why? And what is your experience level with the G430? |
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![]() En route I usually use the map page. However, I find the numbers page very useful for approaches. It's also excellent backup for partial panel flying. I did so well with it on my checkride that the examiner made me turn to another page for partial panel. |
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![]() I've had my GNS 430 for about two years, and I love it. I toggle back and forth between the Nav1 CDI (or "numbers" screen, as you call it) and the map depending on what mode of flight I'm in and what I want out of the display. While in cruise, I usually use the CDI screen for keeping the heading a close as I can. When getting vectors to the ILS, I'll put it in map mode so that I can readily see how far from the ILS I am (given that the ILS CDI is usually a full deflection until you're close to it), and then switch back to the CDI screen again once I'm established on the ILS. For non-precision approaches, I usually use the map screen. -- Dane In article , Mitty wrote: The "Cheating the ILS" thread prompts my curiosity: I fly with a single G430 and rarely use the map display. Almost always I am set on the Nav1 "numbers" screen, which tells me pretty much everything I need to know. I have talked to a number of commercial pilots with lots of G430 experience, and this seems to be the consensus. The tone of the OP on the "Cheating the ILS" seems to be that his use of this screen is unusual. I use the TRK number on the Nav1 screen routinely to help on ILS approaches and have never thought anything of it. I fly my best approaches this way because I do not have to cut & try to get a heading that holds the needle centered. So ... Do you normally fly looking at Nav1 or at the map? Cruise? Approaches? Why? And what is your experience level with the G430? |
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Mitty,
Do you normally fly looking at Nav1 or at the map? Cruise? Approaches? Why? Map. Always, VFR and IFR. Why? Because all the data fields I need can be displayed on that screen - and the map gives a ton of additional information. The CDI is in the panel - why replicate it on the G430? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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I use the map most of the time, with a few numeric fields displayed.
I'll have to try the DTK/ATK trick on an approach next time. I do find however that my navigation is more precise when I'm on the CDI field and less precise when I'm on the map field. With the larger scale it takes longer to see a flight deviation. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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I see guys walk into the cafeteria and read the menu
posted on the wall in detail. I walk in and look at the food. I think it depends on how your brain works... you must be a left-half guy. The visual type guys always want the map and track up too. Bill Hale BPPP instructor -- seen all types. de Mitty wrote: The "Cheating the ILS" thread prompts my curiosity: I fly with a single G430 and rarely use the map display. Almost always I am set on the Nav1 "numbers" screen, which tells me pretty much everything I need to know. I have talked to a number of commercial pilots with lots of G430 experience, and this seems to be the consensus. The tone of the OP on the "Cheating the ILS" seems to be that his use of this screen is unusual. I use the TRK number on the Nav1 screen routinely to help on ILS approaches and have never thought anything of it. I fly my best approaches this way because I do not have to cut & try to get a heading that holds the needle centered. So ... Do you normally fly looking at Nav1 or at the map? Cruise? Approaches? Why? And what is your experience level with the G430? |
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![]() On 9/4/2006 1:46 PM, Bill wrote the following: The visual type guys always want the map and track up too. Track up drives me nuts! :-) It's on my checklist to make sure the thing is north up before I take off. |
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![]() "Mitty" wrote in message ... On 9/4/2006 1:46 PM, Bill wrote the following: The visual type guys always want the map and track up too. Track up drives me nuts! :-) It's on my checklist to make sure the thing is north up before I take off. For me, it's track up, symbol at the bottom (I want to see where I'm heading and what I'm heading INTO) YMMV |
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Mitty wrote in :
On 9/4/2006 1:46 PM, Bill wrote the following: The visual type guys always want the map and track up too. Track up drives me nuts! :-) It's on my checklist to make sure the thing is north up before I take off. Bet you will find extreme opinions on this :-) For me, North up drives me nuts, as when I turn right, I want to see the little plane turn right along with me. As far as the original poster's question, for the initial approach phase, I use the map to help with situational awareness. Once I am established on the IA fix, I change over to the CDI page for extra localizer assistance. Just did a GPS approach into OWB just above GPS minimums Saturday. 430 made the approach a breeze with the help of smooth air in the clouds. Allen |
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Mitty wrote:
The "Cheating the ILS" thread prompts my curiosity: I fly with a single G430 and rarely use the map display. Almost always I am set on the Nav1 "numbers" screen, which tells me pretty much everything I need to know. I have talked to a number of commercial pilots with lots of G430 experience, and this seems to be the consensus. The tone of the OP on the "Cheating the ILS" seems to be that his use of this screen is unusual. I use the TRK number on the Nav1 screen routinely to help on ILS approaches and have never thought anything of it. I fly my best approaches this way because I do not have to cut & try to get a heading that holds the needle centered. So ... Do you normally fly looking at Nav1 or at the map? Cruise? Approaches? Why? And what is your experience level with the G430? I use the Nav2 (map) screen and the panel mounted CDI. The CDI display on Nav1 is pretty useless because it is not a real CDI. Although it has more data fields, the nav2 screen can be reprogrammed for the most important numbers. I typically use the default setting with the Nav2 screen - DTK, DIS and GS. I switch to Nav1 if I need to know the ETE. |
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