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Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this
case): http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449- B718-22EEF76AE40A Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training. -cwk. |
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I particularly like this quote:
The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's a three-dimensional effort." End of quote. On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:11:04 GMT, "C Kingsbury" wrote: Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this case): http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449- B718-22EEF76AE40A Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training. -cwk. |
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wrote: The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's a three-dimensional effort." I hope that's a transcription error and he said he was being _censured_ by the FAA. -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
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C Kingsbury wrote:
Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this case): http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449- B718-22EEF76AE40A Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training. -cwk. Holding altitude is the hardest part of flying? If he really believes this, then he definitely needs some remedial training. Matt |
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... I particularly like this quote: The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's a three-dimensional effort." My instrument students mastering BAI would agree. Holding altitude didn't seem to be his problem; adhering to clearances did, however. |
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![]() "C Kingsbury" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ink.net... Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this case): http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449- B718-22EEF76AE40A Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training. -cwk. j just being curious when reading that from over here in austria.. are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared altitude - for whatever reason? regards wolfgang FTLOWW 081000Z 081812 33004KT 1500 SCT005 BKN008 TEMPO 2109 0600 FZFG VV002 TEMPO 0006 -DZ BECMG 0911 4000 BR= ifr-weather;-) |
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![]() "Wolfgang K." wrote: just being curious when reading that from over here in austria.. are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared altitude - for whatever reason? It depends on the situation. If your altitude excursion does not cause a problem for ATC, the controller most likely won't write you up. He may if he has to move other aircraft around because you busted your altitude assignment. He definitely will if your mistake causes a loss of separation with another aircraft. -- Dan C-172RG at BFM |
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"Wolfgang K."
just being curious when reading that from over here in austria.. are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared altitude - for whatever reason? No, but busting a clearance in the busy New York City airspace will draw attention. TEB underlies NYC Class B and specifically underlies some Newark approaches. It is very busy, congested airspace. Otherwise, it seems ATC radar is programmed to generate an alert with a 300 foot bust. I've done a number of those. It seems that it is up to the controller to decide what to do. From Mr Freeman's statements, it suggests that he is either relatively inexperienced either in IFR ops or in ops at busy airports. He talks about looking at the approach plate and deciding to descend to the altitude for the approach. I'm guessing that at Teterboro, one would typically be vectored and stepped down to intercept final. But that's just a guess. |
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Hello,
From Mr Freeman's statements, it suggests that he is either relatively inexperienced either in IFR ops or in ops at busy airports. He talks about looking at the approach plate and deciding to descend to the altitude for the approach. I'm guessing that at Teterboro, one would typically be vectored and stepped down to intercept final. But that's just a guess. IIRC he's got his PPL in 2002 and owned a Piper Arrow in 2003 (not a thing to be used in FL210 ;-). So his IFR ticket could possibly be quite "fresh". Regards Kai Glaesner |
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