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The Perils of Being A Celebrity Pilot



 
 
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Old December 7th 04, 10:11 PM
C Kingsbury
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Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this
case):

http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449-
B718-22EEF76AE40A

Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he
was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance
confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I
presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training.

-cwk.


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Old December 7th 04, 10:26 PM
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I particularly like this quote:


The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going
to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's
a three-dimensional effort."

End of quote.






On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:11:04 GMT, "C Kingsbury"
wrote:

Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this
case):

http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449-
B718-22EEF76AE40A

Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he
was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance
confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I
presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training.

-cwk.


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Old December 7th 04, 10:38 PM
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In article ,
wrote:

The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going
to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's
a three-dimensional effort."


I hope that's a transcription error and he said he was being _censured_
by the FAA.

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Old December 7th 04, 11:42 PM
Matt Whiting
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C Kingsbury wrote:

Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this
case):

http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449-
B718-22EEF76AE40A

Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says he
was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance
confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I
presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training.

-cwk.



Holding altitude is the hardest part of flying? If he really believes
this, then he definitely needs some remedial training.


Matt

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Old December 8th 04, 03:52 AM
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wrote in message
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I particularly like this quote:


The actor explains, "I'm being censored by the FAA and they're going
to ground me. The hardest thing about flying is holding altitude. It's
a three-dimensional effort."


My instrument students mastering BAI would agree. Holding altitude didn't
seem to be his problem; adhering to clearances did, however.


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Old December 8th 04, 11:48 AM
Wolfgang K.
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"C Kingsbury" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
ink.net...
Bust your altitude and it makes the papers (or the Drudge Report, in this
case):

http://www.wokr13.tv/entertainment/s...35C-E98C-4449-
B718-22EEF76AE40A
Morgan Freeman was flying into TEB (in a turbine I presume since he says

he
was coming down to 3000 from FL210) and it appears he got his clearance
confused with the approach procedure which had a step-down at 2000. I
presume he'll be back in the air again soon after some remedial training.
-cwk.
j


just being curious when reading that from over here in austria..
are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared
altitude - for whatever reason?

regards
wolfgang
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TEMPO 0006 -DZ BECMG 0911 4000 BR= ifr-weather;-)



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Old December 8th 04, 01:35 PM
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"Wolfgang K." wrote:

just being curious when reading that from over here in austria..
are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared
altitude - for whatever reason?


It depends on the situation. If your altitude excursion does not cause a
problem for ATC, the controller most likely won't write you up. He may if he
has to move other aircraft around because you busted your altitude
assignment. He definitely will if your mistake causes a loss of separation
with another aircraft.
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Dan
C-172RG at BFM


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Old December 8th 04, 02:32 PM
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"Wolfgang K."
just being curious when reading that from over here in austria..
are the faa really that strict and ground you for being at not a cleared
altitude - for whatever reason?

No, but busting a clearance in the busy New York City airspace will draw
attention. TEB underlies NYC Class B and specifically underlies some Newark
approaches. It is very busy, congested airspace.

Otherwise, it seems ATC radar is programmed to generate an alert with a 300
foot bust. I've done a number of those. It seems that it is up to the
controller to decide what to do.

From Mr Freeman's statements, it suggests that he is either relatively
inexperienced either in IFR ops or in ops at busy airports. He talks about
looking at the approach plate and deciding to descend to the altitude for
the approach. I'm guessing that at Teterboro, one would typically be
vectored and stepped down to intercept final. But that's just a guess.


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Old December 8th 04, 03:56 PM
Kai Glaesner
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Hello,

From Mr Freeman's statements, it suggests that he is either relatively
inexperienced either in IFR ops or in ops at busy airports. He talks

about
looking at the approach plate and deciding to descend to the altitude for
the approach. I'm guessing that at Teterboro, one would typically be
vectored and stepped down to intercept final. But that's just a guess.


IIRC he's got his PPL in 2002 and owned a Piper Arrow in 2003 (not a thing
to be used in FL210 ;-). So his IFR ticket could possibly be quite "fresh".

Regards

Kai Glaesner




 




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