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The last time I flew in competition was about 20 years ago in Europe.
I have never flown in competition in the US, but I am certainly going to change that this year. How often do you go to competition without a ground crew and if you do how do you deal with this situation? Are contest organizers of any help considering their workload? Any advice will be very appreciated. Andrzej |
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Andrzej,
Others will give you much better advice than mine, but about half of the contests I attend are without a crew. However, those contests are also attended by fellow members of my local club, and they help me when I don't have a crew. You may find yourself in a pinch of you attend a contest without making any preparations at all. The organizers, I'm sure, will do their best to help you, but they have no obligation to come get you if you land out. You must be prepared for Charlie Lite's friendly jabs about the "Clueless crewless". Don't let the lack of a crew stop you though. Contact the organizers and let them know your situation. They would much rather have you there without a crew than not at all! ~ted/2NO Clueless Crewless since June 2007 Contest organizer 2006, 200? |
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Most contests, including nationals, have about half the pilots without
crew. Basically, there are pilots whose spouses come, and there are pilots whose spouses don't come. A few pilots bring along clubmembers or new pilots as crew but it's getting pretty rare. It's best to go to a contest with a few buddies, and agree to crew for each other. In addition, the crewless pilots usually get together and agree to form a bigger group to look out for each other when the buddy system breaks down. If you're crewless, make sure you attend this meeting. (Make sure this meeting happens!) Then, after each flight, make a habit of asking the retrieve office who needs help, and never leave the airport until everyone is accounted for. Put some favors in the favor bank! If you go get someone, you just found your crew for the rest of the contest. If you're crewless, you need to put a little more effort into making it to an airport, and get an airtow retrieve. This is especially important if the weather is getting bad or the day is about to die. An occasional "bad luck" landout in good conditions isn't a big deal, because most of your buddies will make it home and be happy to come get you. The problem happens when there is a mass landout and all your buddies have landed out too! Now if a lot of you didn't get to an airport, it's going to be a long night. If you're crewless, you must be prepared to get retrieved, and then go right back out and get someone else! John (perpetually crewless) Cochrane |
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AK wrote:
How often do you go to competition without a ground crew and if you do how do you deal with this situation? Are contest organizers of any help considering their workload? I flew in six Region 11 and 12 contests, 15m or 18m class, all without a crew, and made it home on all except one task. I always arranged ahead of time to share crewing duties with another crew-free pilot at the contest. I'd say roughly half the pilots at the contests I flew in had no formal crew. It definitely helps to fly in contests close to home, as local knowledge is often key to getting home on soft days. I was always prepared to backtrack towards the nearest airport where I could get an aero retrieve. It is obviously best to fly conservatively, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll be at the back of the pack, I finished 1st once and 2nd three times. Don't let the lack of a crew stop you... Marc |
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On Jan 6, 11:49 pm, Marc Ramsey wrote:
AK wrote: How often do you go to competition without a ground crew and if you do how do you deal with this situation? Are contest organizers of any help considering their workload? I flew in six Region 11 and 12 contests, 15m or 18m class, all without a crew, and made it home on all except one task. I always arranged ahead of time to share crewing duties with another crew-free pilot at the contest. I'd say roughly half the pilots at the contests I flew in had no formal crew. It definitely helps to fly in contests close to home, as local knowledge is often key to getting home on soft days. I was always prepared to backtrack towards the nearest airport where I could get an aero retrieve. It is obviously best to fly conservatively, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll be at the back of the pack, I finished 1st once and 2nd three times. Don't let the lack of a crew stop you... Marc Heck, that even happens around the home field! This past summer I flew my diamond goal flight (woohoo!) along with 2 buddies (both with lots more cross country time than me), but my radio fritzed out early in the flight. When I got back to the field after 4.5 hours I could see the other two trailers getting packed up to go and thought, "Gee, I fly slow!" Actually, I was the only one that made it back! |
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As John Cochrane says, being crewless involves taking responsibility
for yourself by thinking ahead. Don't just show up and land out and expect the organizers to find someone to come get you. Talk to them ahead of time to see what their attitude is (they may even be able to match you up with a local who WANTS the experience of crewing). Make certain you and the other crewless pilots meet before the first contest day and exchange names, cell phone numbers, etc. Volunteer to retrieve other pilots. If the day is obviously washing out for everyone, don't drive out into the far corners of the contest envelope and land miles from the closest road (in general, don't do that even on the good days). If you know from experience that you're likely to land out more often than not, consider taking a buddy with you or otherwise making more formal arrangements. After a while, drawing lots every night to determine who goes to fetch you this time gets old. Finally, a good general rule is to leave your retrieve vehicle and trailer hooked up and ready to drive away, including keys in the ignition, the fuel tank full, and a note with any special instructions on the driver's seat. That avoids problems and speeds your retrieve. Chip Bearden ASW 24 "JB" USA |
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On Jan 6, 9:54 pm, AK wrote:
The last time I flew in competition was about 20 years ago in Europe. I have never flown in competition in the US, but I am certainly going to change that this year. How often do you go to competition without a ground crew and if you do how do you deal with this situation? Are contest organizers of any help considering their workload? Any advice will be very appreciated. Andrzej Andrzej - To make it really sporting, borrow a glider with no trailer and go to the contest with no car. Walk to and from the airport. Thumb a tow to the grid, land near and taxi back to your glider parking space. Of course, it costs some beers for the tows to the grid ! I guess I'm getting old, haven't done that for a few years (and no, the glider didn't have a motor)... Have fun ! Best Regards, Dave |
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