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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:56:42 +0000, Peter
wrote: The other day I was talking to a commercial pilot of a big twin passenger turboprop. He has been iced up a few times and recently was down to 200fpm climbing flat out through FL150; looking out of the window he saw a bit of ice on the wings but enough on the prop for it to be visible while the prop was rotating. /// At 200kt IAS at FL150 his airframe temperature should be SAT+9C. At 300kt TAS the TAT should be SAT+12C which nearly puts him out of the stratiform cloud icing range of 0C to -15C or so. /// What puzzles me is the prop. Assuming a SOP of max revs if icing is likely, much of the prop is going at between mach 0.5 and mach 0.8, with a temp rise of 15C to 30C, so even on a slow piston aircraft only the innermost part should ever ice up. Is this true? // Peter. Let's run a sanity check. Lapse rate 2 degC/1000ft (can be less) Airframe Cold day = 5 degC MSL at FL150 = 15 X 2 = 30 degC drop from 5 deg = -25 degC SAT + 9 to SAT + 12 = -16 degC to -13 degC Std day = 15 degC MSL at FL 150 = -6degC to -3 degC Prop Cold day -25degC + 15 to 30 degC = -10degC to +5 degC Std Day -15degC + 15 to 30 degC = 0 to 15 degC One is warned that glaze can accrete very, very fast. I oversimplified with the lapse rate, but I conclude that it's easy to be in an accretion phase at FL150. Did I miss something? Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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