Flying IFR with Garmins

I just recently decided to buy our first Garmin GPS (296). I had not
in the past because they were so far behind on providing terrain. They
fixed that with the 296. However, the one outstanding item missing on
the 296 are airways. On my Skymap IIIc I can easily fly an airway by
putting the white course line on the pink airway line. Airways are
pretty common in the West where airways provide routes around
restricted airspace and around busy areas (like LAX) so ATC often
gives you airways rather than a million vectors (our airways are not
straight, they turn like roads).

So how do you Garmin guys easily fly along an airway graphically?

-Robert

Enter VORs as waypoints in a flight plan?


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I just recently decided to buy our first Garmin GPS (296). I had not
in the past because they were so far behind on providing terrain. They
fixed that with the 296. However, the one outstanding item missing on
the 296 are airways. On my Skymap IIIc I can easily fly an airway by
putting the white course line on the pink airway line. Airways are
pretty common in the West where airways provide routes around
restricted airspace and around busy areas (like LAX) so ATC often
gives you airways rather than a million vectors (our airways are not
straight, they turn like roads).

So how do you Garmin guys easily fly along an airway graphically?

-Robert

On 15 Jun 2004 21:18:09 -0700, (Robert M. Gary) wrote:

I just recently decided to buy our first Garmin GPS (296). I had not
in the past because they were so far behind on providing terrain. They
fixed that with the 296. However, the one outstanding item missing on
the 296 are airways. On my Skymap IIIc I can easily fly an airway by
putting the white course line on the pink airway line. Airways are
pretty common in the West where airways provide routes around
restricted airspace and around busy areas (like LAX) so ATC often
gives you airways rather than a million vectors (our airways are not
straight, they turn like roads).

So how do you Garmin guys easily fly along an airway graphically?

-Robert

My CNX80 has the airways.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Same thing for the 295. VORs in the flightplan.

Enter VORs as waypoints in a flight plan?


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I just recently decided to buy our first Garmin GPS (296). I had not
in the past because they were so far behind on providing terrain. They
fixed that with the 296. However, the one outstanding item missing on
the 296 are airways. On my Skymap IIIc I can easily fly an airway by
putting the white course line on the pink airway line. Airways are
pretty common in the West where airways provide routes around
restricted airspace and around busy areas (like LAX) so ATC often
gives you airways rather than a million vectors (our airways are not
straight, they turn like roads).

So how do you Garmin guys easily fly along an airway graphically?

-Robert

On 15 Jun 2004 21:18:09 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
wrote:
So how do you Garmin guys easily fly along an airway graphically?

You have to put in everything that creates a bend in the airway: VORs,
intersections. To make the task less daunting, in practice I put in
just the first couple of these, then add the rest in cruise flight
when the workload reduces.

-Dave Lindenauer, N212MT (with GNS430)

"Dash8Driver" wrote in message news:J3Qzc.56901$HG.14900@attbi_s53...
Enter VORs as waypoints in a flight plan?

Its not the flight plan I'm worried about, its the frequent changes to
it by ATC. The reason we use airways out west is because it simplifies
all the turns around restricted airspace and busy airspace. If you
can't enter an airway, you'd need to put in every point along the
airway that defines a turn.

-Robert

Dash8Driver wrote:

Enter VORs as waypoints in a flight plan?

And, turn points between VORs, if any.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

"Dash8Driver" wrote in message news:J3Qzc.56901$HG.14900@attbi_s53...
Enter VORs as waypoints in a flight plan?

Its not the flight plan I'm worried about, its the frequent changes to
it by ATC. The reason we use airways out west is because it simplifies
all the turns around restricted airspace and busy airspace. If you
can't enter an airway, you'd need to put in every point along the
airway that defines a turn.

-Robert

What you're looking for is an airway database. Even the IFR Garmins don't have that. Those are
the domain of airliners and biz jets for the most part.

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What you're looking for is an airway database. Even the IFR Garmins
don't have that. Those are the domain of airliners and biz jets for
the most part.

You should check out the CNX-80. The airways are in the database, and
you enter clearances just the way the controller reads them to you,
including the airways. No need to search a paper chart to find all the
intermediate airway fixes.

The CNX-80 is an awesome box.

What you're looking for is an airway database. Even the IFR Garmins don't
have that. Those are
the domain of airliners and biz jets for the most part.


Give me a break. My ancient Northstar M3 GPS has airways. My equally ancient
Argus 7000 has airways.
Garmin just sucks.