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Old February 7th 04, 03:24 AM
CFLav8r
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Is it true that an experimental aircraft can not be instrument certified by
the FAA?

David (KORL)


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Old February 7th 04, 04:07 AM
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CFLav8r wrote:

Is it true that an experimental aircraft can not be instrument certified by
the FAA?


Many experimental aircraft can be flown under an instrument flight plan when
properly equipped.

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Old February 7th 04, 04:31 AM
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In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

CFLav8r wrote:

Is it true that an experimental aircraft can not be instrument certified by
the FAA?


Many experimental aircraft can be flown under an instrument flight plan when
properly equipped.


New jets undergoing initial certification flights are experimental
aircraft. I assume they operate under IFR.

There was a NOVA a bunch of years back on the development of the 777.
It looked kind of wierd to see an airliner with the same "EXPERIMENTAL"
sticker pasted over the door that would you see on a contraption some
guy built in his garage.
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Old February 9th 04, 03:36 PM
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message ...

There was a NOVA a bunch of years back on the development of the 777.
It looked kind of wierd to see an airliner with the same "EXPERIMENTAL"
sticker pasted over the door that would you see on a contraption some
guy built in his garage.


Yep and they showed the thing shooting multiple ILS's to DH trying to get into the
test strip.

My favorite part of the show was despite the fact that they had people on a conference
call to transfer the funds and run the paperwork into OKC by hand, they use the same
little bill of sale and temporary registration that they do on our little planes. After the
guy fills it out he tears off the temporary registration copy and tells someone to go out
and stick it in the airplane.

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Old February 7th 04, 05:00 AM
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 03:24:11 GMT, "CFLav8r"
wrote:

Is it true that an experimental aircraft can not be instrument certified by
the FAA?


If it is there are a lot of them out there flying IFR illegally.
(unless I'm missing something in your phrasing)

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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David (KORL)


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Old February 7th 04, 12:42 PM
CFLav8r
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Is it true that an experimental aircraft can not be instrument certified
by
the FAA?


If it is there are a lot of them out there flying IFR illegally.
(unless I'm missing something in your phrasing)

My question is about the aircraft not the ability to fly it in IFR
conditions.
I recently showed my instructor an ad for a Glasair and he remarked that
you could never get it IFR certified with the FAA.
That didn't make much sense to me, but then again I am the student and he
is the instructor.
The way I figure it, if it is IFR equipped then why couldn't it be IFR
certified?

David


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Old February 7th 04, 01:50 PM
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The way I figure it, if it is IFR equipped then why couldn't it be IFR
certified?


I'm a little confused here. I didn't think anything on an experimental aircraft
was 'certified'. If it was then it wouldn't be 'experimental'. Experimentals
are not 'certified' to "fly" but they legally do. I believe the rules read
something like "it can be flown under conditions that it is properly equiped
for" i.e. you can't make a VOR approach if it is not equipped with a VOR
receiver. Something like that.

Jim
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Old February 9th 04, 03:38 PM
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"JFLEISC" wrote in message ...
The way I figure it, if it is IFR equipped then why couldn't it be IFR
certified?


I'm a little confused here. I didn't think anything on an experimental aircraft
was 'certified'. If it was then it wouldn't be 'experimental'. Experimentals
are not 'certified' to "fly" but they legally do.


They have airworthiness certificates. Attached to the experimental airworthiness
certificate is a list of conditions for operation. These spell out if the aircraft can
be operated at night or IFR. Homebuilts will usually get this permission.

What they don't have is type certification.

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Old February 7th 04, 01:52 PM
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"CFLav8r" wrote:
I recently showed my instructor an ad for a Glasair and he
remarked that you could never get it IFR certified with
the FAA.
That didn't make much sense to me, but then again I am
the student and he is the instructor.


Your instructor is F. O. S.
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Dan
C172RG at BFM
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Old February 7th 04, 02:36 PM
Dave
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Yah... as I understand it, experimental certified aircraft can do
everything a normal/utility certified aircraft can do except:

carry people for hire.

Check out the EAA site for more details...

Dave

Dan Luke wrote:
"CFLav8r" wrote:

I recently showed my instructor an ad for a Glasair and he
remarked that you could never get it IFR certified with
the FAA.
That didn't make much sense to me, but then again I am
the student and he is the instructor.



Your instructor is F. O. S.


 




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