FLARM Installation

Now that the portable FLARM is out, those of you who have mounted it,
would you mind informing - photos would be great too - how you did
it. Looking for a good solution before I mess things up too much.
Tom
Idaho

On Mar 16, 3:58*pm, Boise Pilot wrote:
Now that the portable FLARM is out, those of you who have mounted it,
would you mind informing - photos would be great too - how you did
it. *Looking for a good solution before I mess things up too much.
Tom
Idaho

Tom,
Mark Mocho has made some very nice portable PF mounts for pilots at
Moriarty. His contact info is on his website at:

http://mmfabrication.com/

Thanks - Renny

On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

On Mar 17, 3:19*am, bumper wrote:
On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

That bracket looks a little...uh... "undesirable" in the event of a
bail out. My $0.02.

T8

On Mar 17, 4:15*am, PMSC Member wrote:
On Mar 17, 3:19*am, bumper wrote:





On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

That bracket looks a little...uh... "undesirable" in the event of a
bail out. *My $0.02.

T8- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I mounted my FLARM on top of my fixed panel using 2" Velcro and
powered it with ships power. I also tried to use the FLARM GPS signal
to drive my SN-10 with no success. The manual states MNEA-0183 version
2.0 compatible GPGGA and GPRMC info at a configured data rate.

My question; Is this sentence compatable with the SN-10? I'm sure my
pin-out was correct.
Thanks,
JJ

"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 4:15 am, PMSC Member wrote:
On Mar 17, 3:19 am, bumper wrote:





On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

That bracket looks a little...uh... "undesirable" in the event of a
bail out. My $0.02.

T8- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I mounted my FLARM on top of my fixed panel using 2" Velcro and
powered it with ships power. I also tried to use the FLARM GPS signal
to drive my SN-10 with no success. The manual states MNEA-0183 version
2.0 compatible GPGGA and GPRMC info at a configured data rate.

My question; Is this sentence compatable with the SN-10? I'm sure my
pin-out was correct.
Thanks,
JJ

___
Hi JJ,

Yes. The data sentences you mention above are all the SN10 needs. However,
be sure that you match the baud rates. The FLARM defaults to 19200 baud and
the SN10 defaults to 4800 baud. If you have somewhat recent software in
your SN10 you can set the baud rate to 19200.

Best Regards,

--
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Mar 17, 4:15*am, PMSC Member wrote:
On Mar 17, 3:19*am, bumper wrote:





On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

That bracket looks a little...uh... "undesirable" in the event of a
bail out. *My $0.02.

T8

The bracket (and PowerFlarm) "goes away" with the canopy in the 26E,
so there is a break-away plug under the glareshield so the canopy
eject process won't be impeded should I decide not to try landing the
remaining glider bits.

The bracket is .050" aluminum, and even if used on a glider such as
the DG-800 series, where the pedestal stays put, would easily bend out
of the way. Is could, if need be, be mounted with frangible nylon
screws or 3-M mushroom style interlocking tape.

bumper

On Mar 17, 11:30*am, bumper wrote:
On Mar 17, 4:15*am, PMSC Member wrote:









On Mar 17, 3:19*am, bumper wrote:

On the Schleicher ASH-26E, there isn't enough room above the
glareshield to allow clearance for the PowerFlarm antenna - - it's not
supposed to contact the canopy. This, and to avoid it blocking the
view or panel, required making a shelf bracket to extend aft from the
glareshield lip and also to allow the PF to mount a bit lower. This
has the added advantage of bringing the control knob a bit closer to
the pilot for easy access.

I made the bracket from aluminum with a curved portion to mate with
the underside of the glareshield, TIG welded to the bracket shelf. The
curved underside mount could be made of wood and the shelf screwed to
that if TIG welding isn't available. Links to pictures:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...021800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...023800x451.jpg

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...024451x800.jpg

bumper

That bracket looks a little...uh... "undesirable" in the event of a
bail out. *My $0.02.

T8

The bracket (and PowerFlarm) "goes away" with the canopy in the 26E,
so there is a break-away plug under the glareshield so the canopy
eject process won't be impeded should I decide not to try landing the
remaining glider bits.

This is exactly my concern. When you blow the canopy, I'm told it
often comes straight back, in which case you could (perhaps) catch the
flarm and the bracket in the head.

As well, thin bits of aluminum in the cockpit have inflicted some
nasty injuries in crash landings. I'd be disinclined to put something
like this in my cockpit.

T8

On Friday, March 16, 2012 2:58:16 PM UTC-7, Boise Pilot wrote:
Now that the portable FLARM is out, those of you who have mounted it,
would you mind informing - photos would be great too - how you did
it. Looking for a good solution before I mess things up too much.
Tom
Idaho

Hi Tom,
I flew with the FLARM mounted on top of the instrument panel and found it hard to see that far away. Just made a canopy mount on the right rail, much as we did with cameras years ago. I raised it straight up about 6", then 90 degree bend inwards. I angled it in and down a bit. It is now about 14" from my head and I can instantly interpret the info. FLARM is a situational awareness aid and I want to spend zero time trying to interpret the warning and emmediately look in the threat area. Don't know how to post a photo to the group.
See you at Parowan?
JJ

I've seen the results of a pilot's face striking an object in the cockpit
during a crash. It wasn't pretty. I'd suggest that it be mounted more than
14" from your face or that you keep your belts tight enough at all times to
avoid an unwanted collision.


"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message
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On Friday, March 16, 2012 2:58:16 PM UTC-7, Boise Pilot wrote:
Now that the portable FLARM is out, those of you who have mounted it,
would you mind informing - photos would be great too - how you did
it. Looking for a good solution before I mess things up too much.
Tom
Idaho

Hi Tom,
I flew with the FLARM mounted on top of the instrument panel and found it
hard to see that far away. Just made a canopy mount on the right rail, much
as we did with cameras years ago. I raised it straight up about 6", then 90
degree bend inwards. I angled it in and down a bit. It is now about 14" from
my head and I can instantly interpret the info. FLARM is a situational
awareness aid and I want to spend zero time trying to interpret the warning
and emmediately look in the threat area. Don't know how to post a photo to
the group.
See you at Parowan?
JJ