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Let's take a look at these new rules that become effective on 20 October UNLESS
we do something about. Comments on the interim final rule are due by October 20, 2004, and may be filed electronically at http://dms.dot.gov. Comments must be identified by TSA's docket number: TSA-2004-19147. How many flight instructors have you had training with? Would you like each one of them to have a copy of your birth certificate for 5 years as proof that you are a US citizen? And by the way a US birth certificate does not show citizenship but it certainly does show birthday, place of birth, full name of parents and of course the maiden name of your mother. Is that something that you would like every single instructor that you have ever had an appointment with to have for 5 years. Quite a risk for identity theft I'd say. But let's say that ALL US citizens are willing to prove their citizenship to any instructor and don't mind copy of the birth certificate being kept by the instructor for 5 years. Since the many are so willing to sacrifice for punishment of the few, the next applicability is of course the US resident alien who has a pilot certificate and bought an SR22. Now this US resident alien calls me at 2 pm and would like to do some night/instrument/avionics software work since he's concerned that he is very close to out of currency for night landings, and he would like his avioncis software skill level to be better. Of course this is the part where some of you feel this rule is sound judgment. I meet with the US resident alien in the lobby of whatever FBO. But we can't hop in the airplane as there are according to you and the TSA some minor insignificant things to take care of first. I of course have to make a copy his passport, visa, his resident alien card, copy of his previous training documentation, training documentation for what the recurrent training is this evening (i guess I'll make a copy of FAR 61, 91, 43, TSO 129, Avidyne Entegra and Emax5000 and Garmin 430 pilots guides), and after I've made copies of all these documents, I have to take a picture of him standing in the FBO lobby when he arrives for his appointment. Sounds like a mug shot with the salient booking desk. So now I have approximately 100 pages of documentation that I made copies with the new color copier that TSA is going to buy for me, and took a photograph of this US resident alien with the cannon 5 megapixel digital camera again that the TSA is going to buy for me, and email/fax/voice it all to the TSA with the fax machine/laptop that the TSA is of course going to buy for me. And after all this material/photo/voice notification is sent to the TSA about this US resident alien who wants to get some night currency out of the way, and the US resident alien had such a good time learning from me plus this very unique experience right there in the FBO lobby, he decides that he would like another appointment tomorrow evening which of course means I have to do the same thing all over again. I"m flabbergasted that many of you have read these rules and could not see how unworkable they are, and that is even before we get to the privacy issues of ALL US citizen pilots, and how many violations of 4th, 14th amendments just for the due process alone. To say nothing of the indignity/maltreatment of the client who has US resident alien status, and worse of all the TSA shoving all the responsibility/accountability of this rule onto the flight instructors. I would not want to be treated that way, and I don't want the TSA telling me I have to treat people that way. This rule will plain & simple make every US resident alien pilot give up his aircraft. It makes the training appointments (supposed to be fun) something that is dreaded more than being arrested for DUI. Please explain why you are perfectly willing to go along with all aspects of this new rule, especially the part of forking over a copy of your birth certificate to every instructor that you might do business with. And of course if TSA interprets that this rule is constitutional in the handling of US resident aliens, what plans does it have for ALL US pilots, citizen or otherwise? My several phone calls yesterday with the TSA such as Dion Casey (571-227-2663) and Mike Derrick (571-227-1198) all had one thing in common. They kept on telling me that I really should not worry how this will effect my flying because it is applicable only to non-US citizen pilots. And it really does not make a difference how inconvenient it would be for a US resident alien to do some night recurrency work, they don't deserve pilot privileges anyway. This from the agency that envisioned CAPPS to do a credit history check on every passenger and to keep record of the passenger/ticket/purchase/address/social security number/phone number/flight for 50 years. (d) Category 4—Recurrent training for all aircraft. Prior to beginning recurrent training for a candidate, a flight school must— (1) Notify TSA that the candidate has requested such recurrent training; and (2) Submit to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA: (i) The candidate's full name, including any aliases used by the candidate or variations in the spelling of the candidate's name; (ii) Any unique student identification number issued to the candidate by the Department of Justice or TSA; (iii) A copy of the candidate's current, unexpired passport and visa; (iv) The candidate's current U.S. pilot certificate, certificate number, and type rating(s); (v) The type of training for which the candidate is applying; (vi) The date of the candidate's prior recurrent training, if any, and a copy of the training form documenting that recurrent training; (vii) The candidate's requested dates of training; and (viii) A photograph of the candidate taken when the candidate arrives at the flight school for flight training. Paul K. Sanchez, CFII-MEI, CSIP 305-389-1742 paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei on eagles’ wings 10643 shore drive boca raton, florida 33428-5645 305-389-1742 wireless 561-852-6779 home/fax |
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"paul k. sanchez" wrote in message
... [...] I"m flabbergasted that many of you have read these rules and could not see how unworkable they are Who has? I've yet to see a comment in this newsgroup that suggests the new rules make sense. Perhaps I missed that post...if you'd be so kind as to point me in the right direction, I'd very much appreciate it. |
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Who has? I've yet to see a comment in this newsgroup that suggests the new
rules make sense. Perhaps I missed that post...if you'd be so kind as to point me in the right direction, I'd very much appreciate it. Posted on www.aopa.org web site. If you have not read them yet I'll send them to you. paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei on eagles’ wings 10643 shore drive boca raton, florida 33428-5645 305-389-1742 wireless 561-852-6779 home/fax |
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"paul k. sanchez" wrote in message
... Who has? I've yet to see a comment in this newsgroup that suggests the new rules make sense. Perhaps I missed that post...if you'd be so kind as to point me in the right direction, I'd very much appreciate it. Posted on www.aopa.org web site. If you have not read them yet I'll send them to you. Then you need to post your article on AOPA's web site, not here. When you write "you" here, and post your article here, you are referring to those of us participating in this newsgroup, not AOPA's web site. Apparently, your article was just as erroneous as it appeared to be. Pete |
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Then you need to post your article on AOPA's web site, not here.
When you write "you" here, and post your article here, you are referring to those of us participating in this newsgroup, not AOPA's web site. Apparently, your article was just as erroneous as it appeared to be. Pete Title 49: Transportation PART 1552—FLIGHT SCHOOLS -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Section Contents Subpart A—Flight Training for Aliens and Other Designated Individuals § 1552.1 Scope and definitions. § 1552.3 Flight training. § 1552.5 Fees. Subpart B—Flight School Security Awareness Training § 1552.21 Scope and definitions. § 1552.23 Security awareness training programs. § 1552.25 Documentation, recordkeeping, and inspection. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Authority: 49 U.S.C. 114, 44939. Source: 69 FR 56340, Sept. 20, 2004, unless otherwise noted. Subpart A—Flight Training for Aliens and Other Designated Individuals top § 1552.1 Scope and definitions. top (a) Scope. This subpart applies to flight schools that provide instruction under 49 U.S.C. Subtitle VII, Part A, in the operation of aircraft or aircraft simulators, and individuals who apply to obtain such instruction or who receive such instruction. (b) Definitions. As used in this part: Aircraft simulator means a flight simulator or flight training device, as those terms are defined at 14 CFR 61.1. Alien means any person not a citizen or national of the United States. Candidate means an alien or other individual designated by TSA who applies for flight training or recurrent training. It does not include an individual endorsed by the Department of Defense for flight training. Day means a day from Monday through Friday, including State and local holidays but not Federal holidays, for any time period less than 11 days specified in this part. For any time period greater than 11 days, day means calendar day. Demonstration flight for marketing purposes means a flight for the purpose of demonstrating an aircraft's or aircraft simulator's capabilities or characteristics to a potential purchaser, or to an agent of a potential purchaser, of the aircraft or simulator, including an acceptance flight after an aircraft manufacturer delivers an aircraft to a purchaser. Flight school means any pilot school, flight training center, air carrier flight training facility, or flight instructor certificated under 14 CFR part 61, 121, 135, 141, or 142; or any other person or entity that provides instruction under 49 U.S.C. Subtitle VII, Part A, in the operation of any aircraft or aircraft simulator. Flight training means instruction received from a flight school in an aircraft or aircraft simulator. Flight training does not include recurrent training, ground training, a demonstration flight for marketing purposes, or any military training provided by the Department of Defense, the U.S. Coast Guard, or an entity under contract with the Department of Defense or U.S. Coast Guard. Ground training means classroom or computer-based instruction in the operation of aircraft, aircraft systems, or cockpit procedures. Ground training does not include instruction in an aircraft simulator. National of the United States means a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States, and includes a citizen of American Samoa or Swains Island. Recurrent training means periodic training required under 14 CFR part 61, 121,125, 135, or Subpart K of part 91. Recurrent training does not include training that would enable a candidate who has a certificate or type rating for a particular aircraft to receive a certificate or type rating for another aircraft. § 1552.3 Flight training. top This section describes the procedures a flight school must follow before providing flight training. (a) Category 1—Regular processing for flight training on aircraft more than 12,500 pounds. A flight school may not provide flight training in the operation of any aircraft having a maximum certificated takeoff weight of more than 12,500 pounds to a candidate, except for a candidate who receives expedited processing under paragraph (b) of this section, unless— (1) The flight school has first notified TSA that the candidate has requested such flight training. (2) The candidate has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA, the following: (i) The candidate's full name, including any aliases used by the candidate or variations in the spelling of the candidate's name; (ii) A unique candidate identification number created by TSA; (iii) A copy of the candidate's current, unexpired passport and visa; (iv) The candidate's passport and visa information, including all current and previous passports and visas held by the candidate and all the information necessary to obtain a passport and visa; (v) The candidate's country of birth, current country or countries of citizenship, and each previous country of citizenship, if any; (vi) The candidate's actual date of birth or, if the candidate does not know his or her date of birth, the approximate date of birth used consistently by the candidate for his or her passport or visa; (vii) The candidate's requested dates of training and the location of the training; (viii) The type of training for which the candidate is applying, including the aircraft type rating the candidate would be eligible to obtain upon completion of the training; (ix) The candidate's current U.S. pilot certificate, certificate number, and type rating, if any; (x) Except as provided in paragraph (k) of this section, the candidate's fingerprints, in accordance with paragraph (f) of this section; (xi) The candidate's current address and phone number and each address for the 5 years prior to the date of the candidate's application; (xii) The candidate's gender; and (xiii) Any fee required under this part. (3) The flight school has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA, a photograph of the candidate taken when the candidate arrives at the flight school for flight training. (4) TSA has informed the flight school that the candidate does not pose a threat to aviation or national security, or more than 30 days have elapsed since TSA received all of the information specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section. (5) The flight school begins the candidate's flight training within 180 days of either event specified in paragraph (a)(4) of this section. (b) Category 2—Expedited processing for flight training on aircraft more than 12,500 pounds. (1) A flight school may not provide flight training in the operation of any aircraft having a maximum certificated takeoff weight of more than 12,500 pounds to a candidate who meets any of the criteria of paragraph (b)(2) of this section unless— (i) The flight school has first notified TSA that the candidate has requested such flight training. (ii) The candidate has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA: (A) The information and fee required under paragraph (a)(2) of this section; and (B) The reason the candidate is eligible for expedited processing under paragraph (b)(2) of this section and information that establishes that the candidate is eligible for expedited processing. (iii) The flight school has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA, a photograph of the candidate taken when the candidate arrives at the flight school for flight training. (iv) TSA has informed the flight school that the candidate does not pose a threat to aviation or national security or more than 5 days have elapsed since TSA received all of the information specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section. (v) The flight school begins the candidate's flight training within 180 days of either event specified in paragraph (b)(1)(iv) of this section. (2) A candidate is eligible for expedited processing if he or she— (i) Holds an airman's certificate from a foreign country that is recognized by the Federal Aviation Administration or a military agency of the United States, and that permits the candidate to operate a multi-engine aircraft that has a certificated takeoff weight of more than 12,500 pounds; (ii) Is employed by a foreign air carrier that operates under 14 CFR part 129 and has a security program approved under 49 CFR part 1546; (iii) Has unescorted access authority to a secured area of an airport under 49 U.S.C. 44936(a)(1)(A)(ii), 49 CFR 1542.209, or 49 CFR 1544.229; (iv) Is a flightcrew member who has successfully completed a criminal history records check in accordance with 49 CFR 1544.230; or (v) Is part of a class of individuals that TSA has determined poses a minimal threat to aviation or national security because of the flight training already possessed by that class of individuals. (c) Category 3—Flight training on aircraft 12,500 pounds or less. A flight school may not provide flight training in the operation of any aircraft having a maximum certificated takeoff weight of 12,500 pounds or less to a candidate unless— (1) The flight school has first notified TSA that the candidate has requested such flight training. (2) The candidate has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA: (i) The information required under paragraph (a)(2) of this section; and (ii) Any other information required by TSA. (3) The flight school has submitted to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA, a photograph of the candidate taken when the candidate arrives at the flight school for flight training. (4) The flight school begins the candidate's flight training within 180 days of the date the candidate submitted the information required under paragraph (a)(2) of this section to TSA. (d) Category 4—Recurrent training for all aircraft. Prior to beginning recurrent training for a candidate, a flight school must— (1) Notify TSA that the candidate has requested such recurrent training; and (2) Submit to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA: (i) The candidate's full name, including any aliases used by the candidate or variations in the spelling of the candidate's name; (ii) Any unique student identification number issued to the candidate by the Department of Justice or TSA; (iii) A copy of the candidate's current, unexpired passport and visa; (iv) The candidate's current U.S. pilot certificate, certificate number, and type rating(s); (v) The type of training for which the candidate is applying; (vi) The date of the candidate's prior recurrent training, if any, and a copy of the training form documenting that recurrent training; (vii) The candidate's requested dates of training; and (viii) A photograph of the candidate taken when the candidate arrives at the flight school for flight training. (e) Interruption of flight training. A flight school must immediately terminate or cancel a candidate's flight training if TSA notifies the flight school at any time that the candidate poses a threat to aviation or national security. (f) Fingerprints. (1) Fingerprints submitted in accordance with this subpart must be collected— (i) By United States Government personnel at a United States embassy or consulate; or (ii) By another entity approved by TSA. (2) A candidate must confirm his or her identity to the individual or agency collecting his or her fingerprints under paragraph (f)(1) of this section by providing the individual or agency his or her: (i) Passport; (ii) Resident alien card; or (iii) U.S. driver's license. (3) A candidate must pay any fee imposed by the agency taking his or her fingerprints. (g) General requirements. (1) False statements. If a candidate makes a knowing and willful false statement, or omits a material fact, when submitting the information required under this part, the candidate may be— (i) Subject to fine or imprisonment or both under 18 U.S.C. 1001; (ii) Denied approval for flight training under this section; and (iii) Subject to other enforcement action, as appropriate. (2) Preliminary approval. For purposes of facilitating a candidate's visa process with the U.S. Department of State, TSA may inform a flight school and a candidate that the candidate has received preliminary approval for flight training based on information submitted by the flight school or the candidate under this section. A flight school may then issue an I–20 form to the candidate to present with the candidate's visa application. Preliminary approval does not initiate the waiting period under paragraph (a)(3) or (b)(1)(iii) of this section or the period in which a flight school must initiate a candidate's training after receiving TSA approval under paragraph (a)(4) or (b)(1)(iv) of this section. (h) U.S. citizens and nationals and Department of Defense endorsees. A flight school must determine whether an individual is a citizen or national of the United States, or a Department of Defense endorsee, prior to providing flight training to the individual. (1) U.S. citizens and nationals. To establish U.S. citizenship or nationality an individual must present to the flight school his or her: (i) Valid, unexpired United States passport; (ii) Original or government-issued certified birth certificate of the United States, American Samoa, or Swains Island, together with a government-issued picture identification of the individual; (iii) Original United States naturalization certificate with raised seal, or a Certificate of Naturalization issued by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) or the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) (Form N–550 or Form N–570), together with a government-issued picture identification of the individual; (iv) Original certification of birth abroad with raised seal, U.S. Department of State Form FS–545, or U.S. Department of State Form DS–1350, together with a government-issued picture identification of the individual; (v) Original certificate of United States citizenship with raised seal, a Certificate of United States Citizenship issued by the USCIS or INS (Form N–560 or Form N–561), or a Certificate of Repatriation issued by the USCIS or INS (Form N–581), together with a government-issued picture identification of the individual; or (vi) In the case of flight training provided to a Federal employee (including military personnel) pursuant to a contract between a Federal agency and a flight school, the agency's written certification as to its employee's United States citizenship or nationality, together with the employee's government-issued credentials or other Federally-issued picture identification. (2) Department of Defense endorsees. To establish that an individual has been endorsed by the U.S. Department of Defense for flight training, the individual must present to the flight school a written statement acceptable to TSA from the U.S. Department of Defense attache in the individual's country of residence together with a government-issued picture identification of the individual. (i) Recordkeeping requirements. A flight school must— (1) Maintain the following information for a minimum of 5 years: (i) For each candidate: (A) A copy of the photograph required under paragraph (a)(3), (b)(1)(iii), (c)(3), or (d)(2)(viii) of this section; and (B) A copy of the approval sent by TSA confirming the candidate's eligibility for flight training. (ii) For a Category 1, Category 2, or Category 3 candidate, a copy of the information required under paragraph (a)(2) of this section, except the information in paragraph (a)(2)(x). (iii) For a Category 4 candidate, a copy of the information required under paragraph (d)(2) of this section. (iv) For an individual who is a United States citizen or national, a copy of the information required under paragraph (h)(1) of this section. (v) For an individual who has been endorsed by the U.S. Department of Defense for flight training, a copy of the information required under paragraph (h)(2) of this section. (vi) A record of all fees paid to TSA in accordance with this part. (2) Permit TSA and the Federal Aviation Administration to inspect the records required by paragraph (i)(1) of this section during reasonable business hours. (j) Candidates subject to the Department of Justice rule. A candidate who submits a completed Flight Training Candidate Checks Program form and fingerprints to the Department of Justice in accordance with 28 CFR part 105 before September 28, 2004, or a later date specified by TSA, is processed in accordance with the requirements of that part. If TSA specifies a date later than the compliance dates identified in this part, individuals and flight schools who comply with 28 CFR part 105 up to that date will be considered to be in compliance with the requirements of this part. (k) Additional or missed flight training. (1) A Category 1, 2, or 3 candidate who has been approved for flight training by TSA may take additional flight training without submitting fingerprints as specified in paragraph (a)(2)(x) of this section if the candidate: (i) Submits all other information required in paragraph (a)(2) of this section, including the fee; and (ii) Waits for TSA approval or until the applicable waiting period expires before initiating the additional flight training. (2) A Category 1, 2, or 3 candidate who is approved for flight training by TSA, but does not initiate that flight training within 180 days, may reapply for flight training without submitting fingerprints as specified in paragraph (a)(2)(x) of this section if the candidate submits all other information required in paragraph (a)(2) of this section, including the fee. § 1552.5 Fees. top (a) Imposition of fees. The following fee is required for TSA to conduct a security threat assessment for a candidate for flight training subject to the requirements of §1552.3: $130. (b) Remittance of fees. (1) A candidate must remit the fee required under this subpart to TSA, in a form and manner acceptable to TSA, each time the candidate or the flight school is required to submit the information required under §1552.3 to TSA. (2) TSA will not issue any fee refunds, unless a fee was paid in error. Subpart B—Flight School Security Awareness Training top § 1552.21 Scope and definitions. top (a) Scope. This subpart applies to flight schools that provide instruction under 49 U.S.C. Subtitle VII, Part A, in the operation of aircraft or aircraft simulators, and to employees of such flight schools. (b) Definitions: As used in this subpart: Flight school employee means a flight instructor or ground instructor certificated under 14 CFR part 61, 141, or 142; a chief instructor certificated under 14 CFR part 141; a director of training certificated under 14 CFR part 142; or any other person employed by a flight school, including an independent contractor, who has direct contact with a flight school student. This includes an independent or solo flight instructor certificated under 14 CFR part 61. § 1552.23 Security awareness training programs. top (a) General. A flight school must ensure that— (1) Each of its flight school employees receives initial and recurrent security awareness training in accordance with this subpart; and (2) If an instructor is conducting the initial security awareness training program, the instructor has first successfully completed the initial flight school security awareness training program offered by TSA or an alternative initial flight school security awareness training program that meets the criteria of paragraph (c) of this section. (b) Initial security awareness training program. (1) A flight school must ensure that— (i) Each flight school employee employed on January 18, 2005 receives initial security awareness training in accordance with this subpart by January 18, 2005; and (ii) Each flight school employee hired after January 18, 2005 receives initial security awareness training within 60 days of being hired. (2) In complying with paragraph (b)(2) of this section, a flight school may use either: (i) The initial flight school security awareness training program offered by TSA; or (ii) An alternative initial flight school security awareness training program that meets the criteria of paragraph (c) of this section. (c) Alternative initial security awareness training program. At a minimum, an alternative initial security awareness training program must— (1) Require active participation by the flight school employee receiving the training. (2) Provide situational scenarios requiring the flight school employee receiving the training to assess specific situations and determine appropriate courses of action. (3) Contain information that enables a flight school employee to identify— (i) Uniforms and other identification, if any are required at the flight school, for flight school employees or other persons authorized to be on the flight school grounds. (ii) Behavior by clients and customers that may be considered suspicious, including, but not limited to: (A) Excessive or unusual interest in restricted airspace or restricted ground structures; (B) Unusual questions or interest regarding aircraft capabilities; (C) Aeronautical knowledge inconsistent with the client or customer's existing airman credentialing; and (D) Sudden termination of the client or customer's instruction. (iii) Behavior by other on-site persons that may be considered suspicious, including, but not limited to: (A) Loitering on the flight school grounds for extended periods of time; and (B) Entering “authorized access only” areas without permission. (iv) Circumstances regarding aircraft that may be considered suspicious, including, but not limited to: (A) Unusual modifications to aircraft, such as the strengthening of landing gear, changes to the tail number, or stripping of the aircraft of seating or equipment; (B) Damage to propeller locks or other parts of an aircraft that is inconsistent with the pilot training or aircraft flight log; and (C) Dangerous or hazardous cargo loaded into an aircraft. (v) Appropriate responses for the employee to specific situations, including: (A) Taking no action, if a situation does not warrant action; (B) Questioning an individual, if his or her behavior may be considered suspicious; (C) Informing a supervisor, if a situation or an individual's behavior warrants further investigation; (D) Calling the TSA General Aviation Hotline; or (E) Calling local law enforcement, if a situation or an individual's behavior could pose an immediate threat. (vi) Any other information relevant to security measures or procedures at the flight school, including applicable information in the TSA Information Publication “Security Guidelines for General Aviation Airports”. (d) Recurrent security awareness training program. (1) A flight school must ensure that each flight school employee receives recurrent security awareness training each year in the same month as the month the flight school employee received initial security awareness training in accordance with this subpart. (2) At a minimum, a recurrent security awareness training program must contain information regarding— (i) Any new security measures or procedures implemented by the flight school; (ii) Any security incidents at the flight school, and any lessons learned as a result of such incidents; (iii) Any new threats posed by or incidents involving general aviation aircraft contained on the TSA Web site; and (iv) Any new TSA guidelines or recommendations concerning the security of general aviation aircraft, airports, or flight schools. § 1552.25 Documentation, recordkeeping, and inspection. top (a) Documentation. A flight school must issue a document to each flight school employee each time the flight school employee receives initial or recurrent security awareness training in accordance with this subpart. The document must— (1) Contain the flight school employee's name and a distinct identification number. (2) Indicate the date on which the flight school employee received the security awareness training. (3) Contain the name of the instructor who conducted the training, if any. (4) Contain a statement certifying that the flight school employee received the security awareness training. (5) Indicate the type of training received, initial or recurrent. (6) Contain a statement certifying that the alternative training program used by the flight school meets the criteria in 49 CFR 1552.23(c), if the flight school uses an alternative training program to comply with this subpart. (7) Be signed by the flight school employee and an authorized official of the flight school. (b) Recordkeeping requirements. A flight school must establish and maintain the following records for one year after an individual no longer is a flight school employee: (1) A copy of the document required by paragraph (a) of this section for the initial and each recurrent security awareness training conducted for each flight school employee in accordance with this subpart; and (2) The alternative flight school security awareness training program used by the flight school, if the flight school uses such a program. (c) Inspection. A flight school must permit TSA and the Federal Aviation Administration to inspect the records required under paragraph (b) of this section during reasonable business hours. paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei on eagles’ wings 10643 shore drive boca raton, florida 33428-5645 305-389-1742 wireless 561-852-6779 home/fax |
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"paul k. sanchez" wrote in message
... Title 49: Transportation PART 1552-FLIGHT SCHOOLS [snip] Um, okay. Was that post supposed to *mean* anything? It's not like anyone who was interested didn't already have a copy of those rules. Posting the rules certainly made no sense as a response to my post. And people wonder why AOL users have such a bad rep...sheesh. |
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I have sevral issues with this rule...
1) How do Citizens prove that they are if they were not born in the US, ie: 1st generation Citizens. 2) This rule treats Green Card holders no different from Visa holders, are we saying the policy of issuing Green Cards is so lax and insecure that they must be treated this way? 3) I doubt as a Green Card holder i'll get any CFI or Flight School to touch me now. There goes hopes of getting my IFR cert. 4) This will impact the GA economy Nice to see the AOPA considers itself only a body for Citizens and not their non-Citizen members. I may well cancel my membership |
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"Karl Treier" wrote in message
... I have sevral issues with this rule... 1) How do Citizens prove that they are if they were not born in the US, ie: 1st generation Citizens. 2) This rule treats Green Card holders no different from Visa holders, are we saying the policy of issuing Green Cards is so lax and insecure that they must be treated this way? 3) I doubt as a Green Card holder i'll get any CFI or Flight School to touch me now. There goes hopes of getting my IFR cert. 4) This will impact the GA economy Nice to see the AOPA considers itself only a body for Citizens and not their non-Citizen members. I may well cancel my membership I hear you loud and clear. Me and a few other "Dirty Immigrants" green card holders have sent an email to AOPA (more than one in my case) to solicit information as to WHY are they not lobbying for us. I am thinking the same thing you are thinking. What am I paying AOPA for? Since from their point of view I am a class-B member. To some extent I am even willing to understand the TSA (I don't approve of it, it's stupid, since when we got the Green Card we were background checked up the whazoo). But AOPA?? Sent two emails yesterday. One to Phil Boyer and the other one to the regional AOPA representative for my area ... If I hear anything I will post it here. This is election-year bull****. Plain and simple. Otherwise, why are they coming out with this rule NOW when 9/11 was 3 years ago? Were we hanky-dory for 3 years? What's different now other than the elections are coming up? Give me a break. -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community - http://www.thepilotlounge.com |
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What is Phil Boyers email address? I want to send an email of my own.
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