Engine throttle

I'm a new X-Planer, and I've been having a lot of fun flying various
aircraft from Spitfires to 747's to and from Vancouver International
Airport. I'm now able to land more or less safely most of the time
(depending on the aircraft), but I often have trouble stopping the
aircraft after landing. Just now, after a perfect three-point landing
with my Spitfire, the brakes only slowed it, and I ended up turning
off the runway and crashing. How in heck to you cut the engine? Does
the same control work with all aircraft, or do you have to set it
separately for each aircraft?

Another question related to brakes is this: On all aircraft, when I
run the engine(s) up to full power, the aircraft starts sliding
forward even with the brakes on. That doesn't seem like a very
accurate simulation. Is there a way to control that?

Another question (I have lots of them, but I'll end with this one): I
can barely get the Concorde to lift off the runway. It's hard to
believe that the main runway at Vancouver isn't long enough. In fact,
an actual Concorde visited Vancouver during Expo '86 and must have
used that runway. Am I doing something wrong. There don't seem to be
any flaps or controls for flaps.

Bob Ingraham
Vancouver

On 22 Nov 2004 07:57:59 -0800, (Bob Ingraham)
proclaimed:

Another question related to brakes is this: On all aircraft, when I
run the engine(s) up to full power, the aircraft starts sliding
forward even with the brakes on. That doesn't seem like a very
accurate simulation. Is there a way to control that?

The F4J Phantom would roll the tires with locked brakes at full
throttle and afterburner. Yep, wheel - tire separation. That's
accurate.

Go in and edit your aircraft config file for better breaking results
but be gentle grasshopper.

Another question related to brakes is this: On all aircraft, when I
run the engine(s) up to full power, the aircraft starts sliding
forward even with the brakes on. That doesn't seem like a very
accurate simulation. Is there a way to control that?

SNIP

Go in and edit your aircraft config file for better breaking results
but be gentle grasshopper.

I would be gentle if I could find an "aircraft config" file, but I
have looked at every menu and sub-menu I can find in X-Plane v7, but
there's nothing resembling anything to do with brakes. Of course, I
can't say I begin to understand much of what I am looking at: clarity
of purpose is not one of X-Plane's strengths!

Bob

Although it's a crummy way to stop an airplane, you can cut the engines by
using CTRL-SHIFT-F1. This action cuts off the fuel supply.
Arthur

"Bob Ingraham" wrote in message
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I'm a new X-Planer, and I've been having a lot of fun flying various
aircraft from Spitfires to 747's to and from Vancouver International
Airport. I'm now able to land more or less safely most of the time
(depending on the aircraft), but I often have trouble stopping the
aircraft after landing. Just now, after a perfect three-point landing
with my Spitfire, the brakes only slowed it, and I ended up turning
off the runway and crashing. How in heck to you cut the engine? Does
the same control work with all aircraft, or do you have to set it
separately for each aircraft?

Another question related to brakes is this: On all aircraft, when I
run the engine(s) up to full power, the aircraft starts sliding
forward even with the brakes on. That doesn't seem like a very
accurate simulation. Is there a way to control that?

Another question (I have lots of them, but I'll end with this one): I
can barely get the Concorde to lift off the runway. It's hard to
believe that the main runway at Vancouver isn't long enough. In fact,
an actual Concorde visited Vancouver during Expo '86 and must have
used that runway. Am I doing something wrong. There don't seem to be
any flaps or controls for flaps.

Bob Ingraham
Vancouver

(Bob Ingraham) wrote in message . com...
I'm a new X-Planer, and I've been having a lot of fun flying various
aircraft from Spitfires to 747's to and from Vancouver International
Airport. I'm now able to land more or less safely most of the time
(depending on the aircraft), but I often have trouble stopping the
aircraft after landing. Just now, after a perfect three-point landing
with my Spitfire, the brakes only slowed it, and I ended up turning
off the runway and crashing. How in heck to you cut the engine? Does
the same control work with all aircraft, or do you have to set it
separately for each aircraft?

Returning space shuttles typically require long landing rolls, even
though they have essentially no engine at all. Depending on what
airplane your landing, approach speeds are obviously relevant. Ehat
approach speed do you use on that Spitfire.

Another question related to brakes is this: On all aircraft, when I
run the engine(s) up to full power, the aircraft starts sliding
forward even with the brakes on. That doesn't seem like a very
accurate simulation.

You know, this reminds me of this situation in which my ABS equipped
Explorer was skidding all over the road, even though I was practically
standing on my break pedal. All these angry drivers were yelling at
me - "that's not very realistic!!"

Another question (I have lots of them, but I'll end with this one): I
can barely get the Concorde to lift off the runway. It's hard to
believe that the main runway at Vancouver isn't long enough. In fact,
an actual Concorde visited Vancouver during Expo '86 and must have
used that runway. Am I doing something wrong. There don't seem to be
any flaps or controls for flaps.

Do tail-less deltas even have flaps? I know Concorde has none. Are
you sure you're using full thrust and no breaks. Also, what is your
take-off speed? Remember that Sacremento ice cream store disaster of
the early 1970's? Unstick speeds are critical for all airplanes, no
less so for a supercruiser like Concorde. I can't tell you if you're
doing anything wrong unless I know what it is that you're doing.
Bob Ingraham
Vancouver

Just a thought re your Concorde taking off are you using the afterburners as
well? I seem to remember hearing that the only way she got off the ground was
with full afterburners running.

hope this helps
Leonard Rosee
Australia

(LnrdRosee) wrote in message ...

Just a thought re your Concorde taking off are you using the afterburners as
well? I seem to remember hearing that the only way she got off the ground was
with full afterburners running.

hope this helps
Leonard Rosee
Australia

So far, Leonard, I don't see any control or setting for afterburners.
But I'll take a closer look. Good idea, anyway.

Bob

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 08:08:23 in message
, Bob Ingraham
wrote:
(LnrdRosee) wrote in message
...

Just a thought re your Concorde taking off are you using the afterburners as
well? I seem to remember hearing that the only way she got off the ground was
with full afterburners running.

hope this helps
Leonard Rosee
Australia

So far, Leonard, I don't see any control or setting for afterburners.
But I'll take a closer look. Good idea, anyway.

The Concorde has 'arm' switches for the afterburners. They are armed and
the throttles opened briskly to maximum, a take off check at 100knots is
that all 4 indicators show green for successful afterburners and full
power. Rotate takes several seconds. Fully loaded lift off at about 205
knots. Nose up to about 13.5 degrees and she should fly.

The afterburner switches are just behind the throttles on the central
console.
--
David CL Francis

(Bob Ingraham) wrote in message . com...
(LnrdRosee) wrote in message ...

Just a thought re your Concorde taking off are you using the afterburners as
well? I seem to remember hearing that the only way she got off the ground was
with full afterburners running.

hope this helps
Leonard Rosee
Australia

So far, Leonard, I don't see any control or setting for afterburners.
But I'll take a closer look. Good idea, anyway.

Bob
Does X-Plane even allow for afterburn? I'm guessing it does, but I
have no experience with X-Plane. [I'm sure it's a great title, but I
have to break this bad habit I hjave about getting great games I never
play.] What sort of instrumentation does X-Plane provide. You should
be able to "detect" afterburner by watching EGT - there should be a
noticeable spike there, to say nothing of fuel burn.

snip What approach speed do you use on that Spitfire.

I'm supposed to watch my speed in addition to altitude, attitude, yaw,
the horizon, and enjoy the scenery too? And then there's the question
of German's lurking about, waiting to pounce on me. But I guess they'd
probably have a hard time getting all the way to Vancouver.... ;^)
Any, I certainly wasn't going very fast. I'd throttled back to about
1/3 power, had full flaps, and the approach was from a low altitude,
not a power dive.

Another question (I have lots of them, but I'll end with this one): I
can barely get the Concorde to lift off the runway. It's hard to
believe that the main runway at Vancouver isn't long enough. In fact,
an actual Concorde visited Vancouver during Expo '86 and must have
used that runway. Am I doing something wrong. There don't seem to be
any flaps or controls for flaps.

Do tail-less deltas even have flaps? I know Concorde has none. Are
you sure you're using full thrust and no breaks. Also, what is your
take-off speed? Remember that Sacremento ice cream store disaster of
the early 1970's?

snip No, I don't recall the ice cream store disaster. What
happenened? I tried another takeoff and watched the speed dial. I was
at 250 knots, and still sticking firmly to the runway, and then the
mud flats, and then careering madly across Georgia Strait. X-Plane
disasters are pretty silly.

Bob